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Re: The Infinite Thread of Evil Police
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2014, 11:30:35 AM »
They probably justify a lot of it with the fairly-numerous amounts of cops in America killed in the line of duty. Basically, cops are violent because so many people are violent to THEM, and so they get pre-emptively violent, which makes more people hate the cops and want to be violent to THEM... you see how that goes.

Their training seems pretty shitty. My cop friend up here says he gets to see a lot of videos of American cops doing stupid shit that's blatantly unsafe, and probably leads to their extremely militant, violent Cop Culture.

Though a giant retarded man with a knife in the city streets is a pretty justifiable shooting to me- if he's too retarded to be trusted not to run around with a knife in public then it's probably for the best he's either in an institution, or dead. You know goddamn well if they'd let him off and he killed someone next time that people would be mad at the police for not making an arrest or something.

One, being a police officer is safer now than it has been in years, and it isn't close to being one of the most dangerous civilian professions.

Two, shitty training has been used as an excuse for years. Seems more like shitty candidate selection.

Three, no one is saying the guy shouldn't have been arrested. But there's a whole spectrum of responses between "let the guy go" and "blow his brains out."


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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2014, 11:48:44 AM »
Especially when the mother of the victim warns the authorities ahead of time that her son is mentally disabled.  And they shoot him down anyway and act surprised that he didn't respond to their commands.

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Re: The Infinite Thread of Evil Police
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2014, 10:28:26 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2822372/Former-police-chief-Maine-sentenced-four-years-prison-sexually-assaulting-child.html

Most decorated State Trooper in Maine history gets four years in prison for molesting a four-year old girl. Four years.





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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2014, 10:57:56 PM »
The American Police Force is genuinely scaring me.
I mean, I'm all for giving folks a chance, but the kind of shit they seem to pull, and not get put into jail for is astonishing.

I've been saying for a few years now we're headed for a police state.

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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2014, 11:17:41 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2822372/Former-police-chief-Maine-sentenced-four-years-prison-sexually-assaulting-child.html

Most decorated State Trooper in Maine history gets four years in prison for molesting a four-year old girl. Four years.

Too bad they turned off comments for that article.  Gee, I wonder why.

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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2014, 06:27:39 AM »
The American Police Force is genuinely scaring me.
I mean, I'm all for giving folks a chance, but the kind of shit they seem to pull, and not get put into jail for is astonishing.

I've been saying for a few years now we're headed for a police state.

... South Korea is heading for a police state?

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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2014, 09:05:36 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2822372/Former-police-chief-Maine-sentenced-four-years-prison-sexually-assaulting-child.html

Most decorated State Trooper in Maine history gets four years in prison for molesting a four-year old girl. Four years.

Too bad they turned off comments for that article.  Gee, I wonder why.

It's really amazing that this guy was even allowed out on bail, which is a courtesy that would never be given to a regular citizen. And this snippet was also pretty disgusting:
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The courtroom was filled with Demers’ family members and supporters, many of whom spoke on his behalf or submitted letters attesting to his exemplary character.

Exemplary character? So the Thin Blue Line extends to include child rapists?


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Re: The Infinite Thread of Evil Police
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2014, 10:11:12 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2822372/Former-police-chief-Maine-sentenced-four-years-prison-sexually-assaulting-child.html

Most decorated State Trooper in Maine history gets four years in prison for molesting a four-year old girl. Four years.

This is a weird case. They really need to investigate his background because either their is something medically wrong with him that caused a huge shift in his personality or he's molested before. I don't see a person getting to 74 and all of a sudden molesting someone without some type of mental illness kicking in.

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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2014, 11:14:39 AM »
Teacher here in GA got busted by the Feds for buying kiddy porn. Guy got 5 years in federal prison.

I guess a cop actually molesting a kid deserves a lighter sentence than a civilian buying illegal porn.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2014, 11:42:13 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2822372/Former-police-chief-Maine-sentenced-four-years-prison-sexually-assaulting-child.html

Most decorated State Trooper in Maine history gets four years in prison for molesting a four-year old girl. Four years.

This is a weird case. They really need to investigate his background because either their is something medically wrong with him that caused a huge shift in his personality or he's molested before. I don't see a person getting to 74 and all of a sudden molesting someone without some type of mental illness kicking in.

I'm going to go with Door Number Two.


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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2014, 02:13:58 AM »
The American Police Force is genuinely scaring me.
I mean, I'm all for giving folks a chance, but the kind of shit they seem to pull, and not get put into jail for is astonishing.

I've been saying for a few years now we're headed for a police state.

... South Korea is heading for a police state?

Still a citizen of `Murica, so I can say "we" pretty confidently.

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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2014, 02:56:03 AM »
Especially when the mother of the victim warns the authorities ahead of time that her son is mentally disabled.  And they shoot him down anyway and act surprised that he didn't respond to their commands.
Knowing that he's mentally disabled doesn't make it any easier to disarm him. A person with a weapon is still a person with a weapon whether or not he's retarded.

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I've been saying for a few years now we're headed for a police state.
You say this a lot, and it feels like SUCH an exaggeration. Like, almost Panthergod-like. Yes, there are issues. Yes, the fear of terrorism has allowed for many laws that could be used to take away a degree of freedom (and in some cases, have). There are troubles all around. But a POLICE STATE? In a country the size of America? With it's legions of gun-loving crazies?

I've visited the States many times over the years, and aside from air travel being a pain in the dick, it doesn't feel any different from any other place. How much time do you still spend here?

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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2014, 10:50:38 AM »
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I've been saying for a few years now we're headed for a police state.
You say this a lot, and it feels like SUCH an exaggeration. Like, almost Panthergod-like. Yes, there are issues. Yes, the fear of terrorism has allowed for many laws that could be used to take away a degree of freedom (and in some cases, have). There are troubles all around. But a POLICE STATE? In a country the size of America? With it's legions of gun-loving crazies?

I've visited the States many times over the years, and aside from air travel being a pain in the dick, it doesn't feel any different from any other place. How much time do you still spend here?

I go there twice a year.  My area is fine at the moment (but I don't live far from Ferguson MO).  When I say this, I don't mean it's going to happen next year or the year after.  Not even in the next ten years.  At the moment, you have officers who get more and more aggressive with less accountability.  That leads to problems and those problems get worse unless there is some major change.  And yes, there are gun nuts but a hunting rifle isn't going to do much to a humvee, which the police have now.  A lot of rednecks think if push comes to shove, they can fight back.  It's BS.  As for the size of America, that doesn't matter much.  China and the USSR were bigger and look what they accomplished.  With modern technology, it wouldn't be too hard to keep tabs on people.

It's not Jelly-like to think this, either.  He believes in conspiracies and I don't.  I do however, think people in charge are too stuck up their own asses and wrapped up in their own desires that they don't realize what they're doing.  There is no rising dictatorship or shadow government.  There are just incompetent people in power doing incompetent things.  It always baffles me that people think America is somehow immune to the problems of other countries.
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Re: The Infinite Thread of Evil Police
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2014, 05:06:24 PM »


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« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2014, 07:05:21 PM »
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CLEVELAND (AP) — A 12-year-old boy shot by police after grabbing what turned out to be a replica gun died from his wounds Sunday, a day after officers responded to a 911 call about someone waving a "probably fake" gun at a playground.

Deputy Chief Ed Tomba said one officer fired twice after the boy pulled the fake weapon — which was lacking the orange safety indicator usually found on the muzzle — from his waistband but had not pointed it at police. The boy did not make any verbal threats but grabbed the replica handgun after being told to raise his hands, Tomba said.

"That's when the officer fired," he said.

The Cuyahoga County medical examiner identified the boy as Tamir Rice. An attorney for his family, Timothy Kucharski, said the boy went to the park with friends Saturday afternoon, but he did not know the details of what led to the shooting.

"I don't want to make a rush to judgment," he said.

The police department is investigating the shooting and both officers involved have been placed on administrative leave, which is standard procedure. The county prosecutor's office also is investigating.

Kucharski said he wants to talk to witnesses himself and get more facts.

"We're ultimately going to find out what happened," Kucharski said.

Police said the weapon was an "airsoft" type replica that resembled a semi-automatic handgun. The orange safety indicator had been removed, police said.

A man who called 911 told dispatchers the boy was on a swing set and pointing a pistol that was "probably fake" and scaring everyone.

The caller said the boy was pulling the gun in and out of his pants.

"I don't know if it's real or not," the caller said.

Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake.

The officer called to the playground outside a city recreation center saw the pistol sitting on a table or bench, and watched the boy grab it and put it in his waistband, Follmer said.