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Bernie officially running
« on: February 19, 2019, 01:28:24 PM »
What would be your advice

If I were Warren, Tulsa or Bernie would focus my attack on the bidens, and Harris type

Since you don't want your bases eating one another

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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2019, 01:31:16 PM »
No. No attacking each other. I want everyone to stick to selling themselves.

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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2019, 01:56:29 PM »
 Bernie as Prez, Tulsi as Veep would be my dream-team. Bernie is awesome, but he's old as dirt. Tulsi is flawed but still excellent, and she is highly unlikely to kick it randomly in her sleep.

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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2019, 03:27:31 PM »
Bernie as Prez, Tulsi as Veep would be my dream-team. Bernie is awesome, but he's old as dirt. Tulsi is flawed but still excellent, and she is highly unlikely to kick it randomly in her sleep.

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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2019, 04:12:04 PM »
If you thought the MSM smear machine was already hitting Bernie hard (and it was)...

THEN LISTEN TO THIS


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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2019, 04:22:33 PM »
I'm thinking after supporting Hillary he's burned!

 

He's not recovering from that.   It was a very big part of why a lot of people voted for Trump over Hillary after he announced his support for her. 
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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »
I'm thinking after supporting Hillary he's burned!

 

He's not recovering from that.   It was a very big part of why a lot of people voted for Trump over Hillary after he announced his support for her.

Is it?  Based on what?

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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2019, 05:43:17 PM »
I'm thinking after supporting Hillary he's burned!

 

He's not recovering from that.   It was a very big part of why a lot of people voted for Trump over Hillary after he announced his support for her. 

What are you talking about?

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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2019, 07:35:45 PM »
I'm thinking after supporting Hillary he's burned!

 

He's not recovering from that.   It was a very big part of why a lot of people voted for Trump over Hillary after he announced his support for her.

Uhhhhhh... What the hell?


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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2019, 07:54:42 PM »
How is anyone still unaware of dlb's catastrophic retardation?
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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2019, 11:51:00 PM »
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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 12:37:40 AM »
I'm thinking after supporting Hillary he's burned!

 

He's not recovering from that.   It was a very big part of why a lot of people voted for Trump over Hillary after he announced his support for her.

Is it?  Based on what?


Here maybe this will help. 

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320

Bernie Sanders supporters switched their allegiance to Donald Trump in large enough numbers last November to sway the election for the real estate billionaire, according to an analysis of voter data released Tuesday by the blog Political Wire. Since Trump’s shock victory over Hillary Clinton, much discussion has focused on the degree to which passionate Sanders supporters’ refusal to embrace Clinton led to the Republican winding up in the White House.

According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders, an independent, in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What’s more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump.

More insight in the article.

Same a little more info from NPR. 

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

How is anyone still unaware of dlb's catastrophic retardation?

The only catastrophic retardation is your inattentiveness or your dumb ass would know this was a problem during the election as well.  I'd at least expect you to be more aware than LS.  But, I'm sure there's others who expected more from you only to see you continually fail.  Oh, well!
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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 01:01:59 AM »
Hm, hadn't seen this story.  Seems the Russians also tried to assist Bernie and Jill Stein during the election.  By boosting their campaigns.  I'll assume to see that Hillary didn't get the vote.  WASHINGTON – It turns out Donald Trump wasn’t the only candidate the Russians allegedly tried to help during the 2016 presidential campaign.

A 37-page indictment resulting from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation shows that Russian nationals and businesses also worked to boost the campaigns of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Green party nominee Jill Stein in an effort to damage Democrat Hillary Clinton.

The Russians “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump,” according to the indictment, which was issued Friday.

The document, which spells out in detail how the Russians worked to support Trump’s campaign, alleges that on or about Feb. 10, 2016, the Russians internally circulated an outline of themes for future content to be posted on social media accounts.

“Specialists were instructed to post content that focused on ‘politics in the USA’ and to ‘use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump – we support them),’” the indictment said.

On or about Nov. 3, 2016, just five days before the election, the Russians tried to boost Stein’s campaign by buying an ad to post on the Instagram account “Blacktivisit,” according to the indictment. The ad read in part: “Choose peace and vote for Jill Stein. Trust me, it’s not a wasted vote.”

Sanders addressed the allegations made in the indictment in a pair of Twitter posts on Friday but did not talk about the charges that the Russians tried to help his campaign.

“It has been clear to everyone (except Donald Trump) that Russia was deeply involved in the 2016 election and intends to be involved in 2018,” Sanders wrote. “It is the American people who should be deciding the political future of our country, not Mr. Putin and the Russian oligarchs.”

“It is absolutely imperative that the Mueller investigation be allowed to go forward without obstruction from the Trump administration or Congress,” he said in another post.

More in the link.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/17/indictment-russians-also-tried-help-bernie-sanders-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/



Here's some stuff regarding his upcoming run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/us/politics/bernie-sanders-president-2020.html

https://www.politico.eu/article/bernie-sanders-2020-presidential-campaign-many-backers-arent-feeling-it/

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2019/02/19/daily-202-the-biggest-challenges-facing-bernie-sanders-2-0/5c6afee71b326b71858c6bbd/?utm_term=.51c1fb1f7a94

6. He enters the race with high negatives, limiting his upside potential.
Sanders endorsed Clinton at the Democratic convention and campaigned for her in the fall, but many from the party establishment nonetheless blamed him for their defeat. “His attacks caused lasting damage, making it harder to unify progressives in the general election and paving the way for Trump’s ‘Crooked Hillary’ campaign,” Clinton complained in her 2017 campaign memoir.

Another factor that still annoys many Democrats: He is not a registered Democrat. Sanders caucuses with them in the Senate, but he’s steadfastly refused to register as a member of the party he seeks to lead. (He and I discussed his reasoning last June.)

8. Democrats badly want to defeat Trump, and Sanders will face lingering questions about electability.

“A Monmouth University poll found that 56 percent of Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents wanted a candidate who will perform well against Trump, even if they disagree with that person on most issues,” Clare Malone notes on FiveThirtyEight. “What electability actually means in this context is quite vague, but if it becomes a proxy for a centrist candidate palatable to swing voters, Sanders might be out of luck. Or, even if voters decide that ‘electable’ means more left, Sanders could lose out to new faces trying to sell their pragmatic progressivism … We might be wise not to discount voters’ affinity for these new, shiny candidates: 59 percent of respondents in a recent USA Today/Suffolk University poll said they would be interested in ‘someone entirely new’ as their nominee. Forty-one percent of those polled said Sanders shouldn’t even run again.”

10. He’s got his work cut out for him with African Americans.

Sanders stumbled in 2016 when he got demolished in South Carolina because he failed to make inroads with black voters, which cost him several other states in the South. African American women emerged as Clinton’s firewall in the series of primaries on March 1, 2016.
A story on the front page of Monday’s New York Times looked at why Sanders struggled to prioritize and execute a winning plan to build support in the black community. “Top aides lost faith in their African-American outreach organizers, whose leadership was replaced and whose team members were scattered across the country. Initiatives like a tour of historically black colleges and universities fizzled; Mr. Sanders even missed its kickoff event,” Sydney Ember reported. “And his campaign’s experience in 2016, as described in interviews with nearly two dozen current and former advisers and staff members, reveals a strikingly uneven commitment on the part of Mr. Sanders and his top advisers to organize and communicate effectively with black voters and leaders.”

The senator has stepped up outreach and takes the problem seriously, but this time at least two of his opponents will be African American: fellow senators Kamala Harris and Cory Booker.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/bernie-sanders-2020-election-social-issues



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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2019, 08:38:43 AM »
I'm thinking after supporting Hillary he's burned!

 

He's not recovering from that.   It was a very big part of why a lot of people voted for Trump over Hillary after he announced his support for her.

Is it?  Based on what?


Here maybe this will help. 

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320

Bernie Sanders supporters switched their allegiance to Donald Trump in large enough numbers last November to sway the election for the real estate billionaire, according to an analysis of voter data released Tuesday by the blog Political Wire. Since Trump’s shock victory over Hillary Clinton, much discussion has focused on the degree to which passionate Sanders supporters’ refusal to embrace Clinton led to the Republican winding up in the White House.

According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders, an independent, in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What’s more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump.

More insight in the article.

Same a little more info from NPR. 

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

How is anyone still unaware of dlb's catastrophic retardation?

The only catastrophic retardation is your inattentiveness or your dumb ass would know this was a problem during the election as well.  I'd at least expect you to be more aware than LS.  But, I'm sure there's others who expected more from you only to see you continually fail.  Oh, well!

All right let All avoid insults here, all of you

Does show my Fear though with progressive running...that they will get so attach to their particualr bran of progressivness...that they will act like anyone else they didnt pick is a monster

Get it people hated clinton..thought she was the to much of a lesser evil. But if they do that with say Warren..saying they cant come out for her...well that just seem like being suborn.

The whole I am voting for trump JUST TO TEACH DNC or Dems a lesson...always seem a bit extreme for me. Like how you go from Bernie to Trump. That like a 180.  I mean you got to live in this country to. Dont worry I can see voting for him if they TRULY for some reason thought he was better. But a damm spite vote. Come on man. If they hated her that bad..vote 3rd part to at least get a 3rd part to 5 percent which means more funding for 3rd party. After all if people truly wanted more then 2 parties that would help. Or maybe not only waiting till the presidental election to vote 3rd party.  Or vote down ticket show their some breaks all this mad man


Now as for the articles about Russia. Dont see that as a slight against Bernie or that russia loved bernie. They thought Hillary was going to be the winner of the primary. So they were going to weaken her as much as possible.  And part of that is boosting whoever ran against her. Which why most of the attacks from Republicans were focused soley on her.

which be interesting how the attack go this election.

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Re: Bernie officially running
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2019, 08:43:17 AM »
I don't think too many people switched from Bernie to Trump.  I think a lot of that was exaggerated as part of the smear.