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Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« on: February 18, 2019, 08:40:46 PM »
Former Governor of Massachusetts, Bill Weld, has announced an exploratory committee to run for president causing speculation on whether or not anyone else will run.

President Trump retains a 78% approval rating from Republicans by ABC, however a different poll from Washington Post showed a third of Republicans would be open to nominating someone else.

And then for the conspiracy theorists, there is that third option that Trump doesn't even make it to the 2020 general election because he is impeached, resigns, or simply chooses to back out of the race midway through. Someone has to be there to pick up the mantle.

What are your thoughts? Is this a joke? Or will we an active primary process in the GOP?

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2019, 08:45:47 PM »
It would be interesting if the GOP run a candidate against Trump.  That hasn't happened to any modern presidents and I'm not certain if it has ever happened at all in history.

I have no idea who they would run, though.

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2019, 08:59:25 PM »
It would be interesting if the GOP run a candidate against Trump.  That hasn't happened to any modern presidents and I'm not certain if it has ever happened at all in history.

I have no idea who they would run, though.

What about Bill Weld!? Lol

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2019, 09:48:41 PM »
Short answer to the thread title :


Longer answer. GOP challengers are not defeating him. ( Even if Weld or Kasich could make a minimal amount of trouble for a bit. ) Reality is that the noise around Republicans being anti-Trump are mostly the Bill Kristol and Max Boot types who are largely worried that Trump might not start enough new wars. These are the same people trying to turn the Democratic Party into their new war loving home.

Barring him double crossing the elites behind the scenes or a multi month shutdown, Trump isn't being thrown out of office prior to election either. Not when twenty GOP Senators would need to join all 47 Dems to pull that off. Hell, would someone like Manchin even side against Trump there?
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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2019, 12:45:36 AM »
dpends on how the next two years go

and what these investigations turn up.  Pretty sure the emulument clause violation provable if they really pushed. Trump may not be able to indited...but if his family start getting it..or all the people he work with..thats a bad look

The Question also..is yes the Republicans may not Join the dems..for impeaching him for say collusion or a few campaign violations or even obstruction. But what WOULD they impeach him for. Because lot of other stuff. Money laundering, if he power to investigate Bezos, or profit from his inaguraiton or took forien money....well thats different

And if a lot of republicans ignore that that may weaken them..or maybe move some republican voters to vote for someone else

or if the GOP canidate running against him lose but say getting to 20-40 percent..that actully REALLY bad for him. Since some of those guys might not come out in the general. Since last time it was a really...REALLY close. Not sure he can afforad to lose even a tiny bit of his base

now all this hard to say..because Trump base is some of the most hardcore ride or die people I ever seen.

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2019, 08:25:29 AM »
But what WOULD they impeach him for.

Nothing.
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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2019, 08:38:56 AM »
Yeah, they're not impeaching Trump at this point.  They found no collusion with Russia and while there are other things they could impeach him on, they don't seem  all that interested in doing so.  Pelosi herself said she didn't consider impeachment a priority.  The only way Trump is getting out of office is if he's voted out or he serves two terms.

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2019, 05:01:09 AM »
Um, what makes you say they haven't found collusion? You have it out that a senior campaign asked Stone to contact Wikileaks and you have Trump tower with DonDon and his dad telling him what to say on Air Force One.

Plus...every damn person who has been indicted or arrested.

And that's not to mention all the obstructions of justice.

I don't think Republicans will impeach him because they've gone full darkside.

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2019, 08:48:24 AM »
The SIC recently announced they found no collusion.

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2019, 09:24:38 AM »
Sic?

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2019, 09:31:22 AM »
If Russia collision happened, it is a good thing. Wanting WWIII because corporate elites want a one World Government is insane.

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 12:03:06 PM »

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 03:07:38 PM »
Sic?

Senate Intelligence Committe.

shockingly their a disagreement in that commite along party lines

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-has-uncovered-no-direct-evidence-conspiracy-between-trump-campaign-n970536

Think once muler done (A life long reupublican by the way) your going to have a lot of people in his campaign connected. Hell even rudy admited as much.  But maybe the president himself you can't proof since he did it through other people. Hell the fact mandiford share polling data with a Russia Agent is something under any other president would be a MASSIVE scandal

Thing is even if people want to ignore collusion because they think it will cause a real life Red Dawn Reboot...there still his various and obvious other crimes, That if they come out...and we don't pressed it..it basicly say the president above the law officially. Nixon will end up being right. When the president does it, its not a crime

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2019, 03:17:55 PM »
None of that matters.  The people who would have been in charge of impeaching Trump are finished with their investigation.

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Re: Will the GOP primary go anywhere?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2019, 03:29:07 PM »
None of that matters.  The people who would have been in charge of impeaching Trump are finished with their investigation.

Yes but that without Mueler Final report. And dont know how deep he went. If he bring up obstruction, money laundering, or any of the big stuff thats connected to Collusion..that might change things

Since those hard crimes to ignore

Not to mention someone..anyone...should be pressing the Buisness ties stuff. Because that should be actully put into law now you can't do the shit. The Emuluments clause is already there...but for some reason that getting ignored.. Congress investigating that. Think there a level of shit that if it comes out will push away some voters

That why I say even if we ignore collusions they may be various other crimes that he might of not only did but did it an obvious enough way where I think people HAVE to confront it...to stop future presidents from go even future

and even if they dont impeach. If its a clear enough crime it will show they the republicans just dont give a shit about the law. Now maybe that was always clear..but it be official now