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Well Trump declared the national Emergency

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Well Trump declared the national Emergency
« on: February 15, 2019, 11:56:57 AM »
Think this will hold up

They apparently attach it to a executive order obama did about not doing buinsess with the Cartel, just so when the dems try to end this they can go "Oh the dems want people to do buisness with the Cartel"

Well if the republicans back this...they better Hope a person who disagree with them NEVER gets in power. I mean ever. Because prescient will be set


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Re: Well Trump declared the national Emergency
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2019, 12:14:52 PM »
Executive orders are easily exploited but also easy to undo.

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Re: Well Trump declared the national Emergency
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2019, 12:55:50 PM »
Precedent was already set with the DACA executive order, which had far more long term implications and created far more confusion than expanding the wall we already have on our border.


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Re: Well Trump declared the national Emergency
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2019, 12:58:41 PM »
Executive orders are easily exploited but also easy to undo.

Damage kind of done at that point

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Re: Well Trump declared the national Emergency
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2019, 01:11:30 PM »
Precedent was already set with the DACA executive order, which had far more long term implications and created far more confusion than expanding the wall we already have on our border.

National emergency opens up more power than an executive order as well as the legality of when you can do one. It gives the president more powere

Which why it more rarely use then executive orders

Although you can declare a national emergency with an executive order but I can be challenged

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Re: Well Trump declared the national Emergency
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2019, 01:17:17 PM »
Repeating this here since it's relevant to the topic.

I'm not against a wall in an immigration compromise that leads to massive reformation in the immigration process. Why can't we have a more humane Ellis Island for example?

But a national emergency...and to say it's because of drugs? If you care about the drug problem you end the drug war.

Many of us warned about setting precedents through executive orders and overreach of power. We are seeing once again an abuse of power, not originally intended for the executive branch of president without authorization from Congress.

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Re: Well Trump declared the national Emergency
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2019, 01:39:14 PM »
My beef with the immigration debate is 2 things both sides leave out

1) they never go after the companies who hire them with any real force or harsh punishment

2) our drug war is what causes the really bad shit



Also immigration has been down for a  while so an emergency unnecessary

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Re: Well Trump declared the national Emergency
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2019, 02:36:53 PM »
They're going after it.

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1096479863010140160?s=19

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) is suing President Trump over his national emergency declaration. https://t.co/pszPFysyTohttps://twitter.com/AOC/status/1096427139971334145?s=19.

@JoaquinCastrotx and I aren’t going to let the President declare a fake national emergency without a fight. https://t.co/iPlcVVsm6U
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