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Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?

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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2019, 03:55:46 PM »
^^^great choice on Backund.
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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2019, 05:57:07 PM »
Cesaro's also an excellent choice there.


Sometimes I forget how good Steiner was in his younger days too.

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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2019, 10:01:12 PM »
Yeah I'm pretty great
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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2019, 03:55:33 PM »
Brock is obvious #1 I think.

Tons of great athletes though. Most already mentioned. Some old school guys too Ladd, Wahoo, Sheik, etc. Guys with pro sports experience.

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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2019, 05:04:24 PM »
How are people defining "pure athlete"?  I know Riv says however you personally define it, so no issues there, but I'm curious what some of these criteria are.  Most "legitimate" sports experience outside of wrestling?  Best real fighter?  Most technical?  Some kind of agility to strength ratio? 

 

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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2019, 05:43:20 PM »
^^^yeah, i was hoping to hear more detail on the reasoning behind picks.

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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2019, 05:45:54 PM »
the more I see of him, the more I think Matt Riddle would be a good choice here.

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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2019, 07:05:39 PM »
How are people defining "pure athlete"?

mentality, power, speed, and technical ability combo
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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2019, 10:47:21 AM »
Kurt Angle would be all of those things, and would beat Brock in everything but power, while being no weakling himself, and probably speed/agility, where at best Brock is his equal.

Brock should definitely be on anyone's list, probably, but no reason to pull a Joe Rogan and mythologize the guy because he's strong and fast. Loads of wrestlers have been.

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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2019, 03:30:52 PM »
Yeah, I should have mythologized Kevin Nash instead
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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2019, 07:09:34 PM »
Kurt Angle would be all of those things, and would beat Brock in everything but power, while being no weakling himself, and probably speed/agility, where at best Brock is his equal.

Brock should definitely be on anyone's list, probably, but no reason to pull a Joe Rogan and mythologize the guy because he's strong and fast. Loads of wrestlers have been.

Kurt is a much better real wrestler than Brock and secretly trained for a few weeks to prepare to for Brock who he challenged cold to a shoot wrestling match. He says it was a good match because he had to use his much higher wrestling technique to overcome Brock physical dominance.

Beyond that Brock is functionally stronger and more explosive than almost anyone. Yeah loads of others are also strong and fast too but not nearly the complete package Brock is.

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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2019, 08:02:31 PM »
Yeah, I should have mythologized Kevin Nash instead
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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2019, 10:20:15 AM »
Angle was my first thought. He doesn't have the same amount of brute strength Lesnar has but like Oats said, he's still extremely strong by anyone's standards. His conditioning at his peak was off the scale and probably superior to Lesnar's and he was just as mentally-focussed. He probably hasn't had quite as much chemical assistance over the years as BRAWK! either - Angle off the juice drops a lot of size but stays ripped whereas BRAWK! off the gas loses both size and definition

Danny Hodge, another top notch amateur wrestler, deserves a mention. His conditioning was crazy and his grip strength was such that he could break pliers with his hands

Brian Pillman and Ron Simmons were both great football players who displayed their athleticism in the ring as well. Simmons in his prime was easily as strong and fast as Lesnar ... same goes for 'Dr Death' Steve Williams.

Another name is Doug Furnas ... I don't know how he was at team games but the guy was probably the strongest guy ever to step into the ring after Bill Kazmaier and Mark Henry, yet he could also hit a dropkick level with an opponent's forehead or execute a flawless hurricanrana
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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2019, 04:23:07 PM »
I highly doubt Ron or Doc were nearly as fast as Lesnar, but good pick with Danny Hodge. As a fellow Oklahoma boy, I'm ashamed that I didn't think of him
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Re: Who is the best pure athlete to have ever set foot in the ring?
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2019, 11:19:37 PM »
Lesnar was an elite college wrestler, walked onto an NFL team lacking years of experience (he did get cut) and UFC champion.

It depends on if you think Olympic Gold medal exceeds that combo of things. I’m not sure. Torn like Natalie Imbruglia