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arguments from people on your side you wish they stop making
« on: February 04, 2019, 01:52:00 AM »
argument from people on your side that hurts your side basicly.

For me

On Immigration-  Well where all immigrants accept for the natvis. Get the point of this argument. Point out the hypocritcy. But they be smarter to leave the natvie americans out of this and just mention Ellis Insland. Party dude to that not ending well for the natvies. If people affraid of immigrant taking over,  bring up the history of natvies Americas not going to end those fears

On Metoo accusation-  I can be pretty SJW. But hearing the argument..why dont they just speak out stronger. If someone excuse you off stealing a car you be like "THAT MOTHER FUCKER full of shit"  Issue with that is no one going to accuse you of shitting on all car theif victims. That never comes out well. It actully the worst thing you can do. That why lawyers tend not to want their clients on the stand.  Because getting found not guilty one thing. It actully hard to get a conviction in those kind of cases. But being convicted in the court of public opinion is little easier

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Re: arguments from people on your side you wish they stop making
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2019, 06:40:19 AM »
I agree on both of those being poor arguments.  Especially since the alt-right usually having a problem against illegal immigration but not immigration in and of itself.  Ellis Island is a better example of people coming over to the US on boats and being granted immigration status once on the island.

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Re: arguments from people on your side you wish they stop making
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2019, 07:36:00 AM »
Especially since the alt-right usually having a problem against illegal immigration but not immigration in and of itself.

This is incorrect, and probably the number one thing that separates the alt-right from the mainstream right.


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Re: arguments from people on your side you wish they stop making
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2019, 08:50:00 AM »
Especially since the alt-right usually having a problem against illegal immigration but not immigration in and of itself.

This is incorrect, and probably the number one thing that separates the alt-right from the mainstream right.

The argument I hear from Trump supporters and the like is that they are okay with legal immigration.  They issue is that they consider illegal immigration a much larger problem than it is and want stupid things like walls to correct it.

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Re: arguments from people on your side you wish they stop making
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2019, 08:57:28 AM »
Especially since the alt-right usually having a problem against illegal immigration but not immigration in and of itself.

This is incorrect, and probably the number one thing that separates the alt-right from the mainstream right.

The argument I hear from Trump supporters and the like is that they are okay with legal immigration.  They issue is that they consider illegal immigration a much larger problem than it is and want stupid things like walls to correct it.

That is correct, but Trump and the majority of the people who voted for him aren’t alt-right. They don’t describe or view themselves as such, and the alt-right doesn’t describe or view them as such.

Richard Spencer is alt-right.


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Re: arguments from people on your side you wish they stop making
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2019, 09:04:23 AM »
Frankly, it's become such an umbrella term, I'm not sure who is supposed to be alt-right, but my main point was that people who support the wall and such tend to have a different argument than what is normally attributed to them.

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Re: arguments from people on your side you wish they stop making
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2019, 10:55:21 AM »
It's become mixed together because, even if the voters aren't all alt-right, they still voted in an administration that has people from the alt-right working with them like Stephen Miller.

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Re: arguments from people on your side you wish they stop making
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2019, 12:05:51 PM »
think the difference is when they move in to limit different type of LEGAL immigration. Most people not going to straight up say they hate legals. But limits pathways to citenzship,


I mean Trump during an election talked about ending birth right citizenship, Which like the "go after thier familes" Shockingly didn't get that much attention


another one. When it comes to police brutality, and criminal perform.  General for fixing that stuff. But again the whole Fuck the policle angle. Or that the Job itself is not moral.That couter productive Like with Kamila harris. Element pushing that being a prosecuter itself is bad. Which to me not true.  Since not every person who goes to court is innocent. This is not perry masson. And yes some even corrupt people need to be proseuted.  Now their fucks up things that prosecuters do. Harris herself did some bad shit that she should be hit for. But people better at focusing on that and the System..then say paint with a broad brush. Since its a Job that kind of bneeds to be Done

Now I do hate the other side idea..that any critue makes them think you hate cops..or don't want police. We just don't want ASSHOLE police