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Weirdest retcons?
« on: August 28, 2018, 12:29:20 PM »
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Re: Weirdest retcons?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2018, 01:06:07 PM »
The story that retcons Lockjaw talking is a bit weird.  There was no real reason to retcon a minor character like that since it could have just as easily been ignored but the explanation given was that it was the Inhuman royal family fucking with Ben Grimm the whole time which is out of character for them.

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2018, 01:18:59 PM »
The story that retcons Lockjaw talking is a bit weird.  There was no real reason to retcon a minor character like that since it could have just as easily been ignored but the explanation given was that it was the Inhuman royal family fucking with Ben Grimm the whole time which is out of character for them.

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2018, 05:31:55 PM »
The story that retcons Lockjaw talking is a bit weird.  There was no real reason to retcon a minor character like that since it could have just as easily been ignored but the explanation given was that it was the Inhuman royal family fucking with Ben Grimm the whole time which is out of character for them.

Haha what is this?

If its what i’m thinking of, a pretty cool cautionary tale for Quicksiver, who wanted to expise hus kud to terrigin(sp) mist, cuz you know, its not enough he had a healthy kid, he wanted the kid to have powers.
From the old THING solo series, issue 3. That story always stuck w. me. Didnt know it had been retconned.   




« Last Edit: August 28, 2018, 05:33:53 PM by Riv1 »

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Re: Weirdest retcons?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2018, 06:08:54 PM »
One of the most pointless and weirdest retcons I've ever seen was Kevin Smith revealing that Batman peed in his costume during the most iconic scene in Year One:


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Re: Weirdest retcons?
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2018, 06:52:13 PM »
One of the most pointless and weirdest retcons I've ever seen was Kevin Smith revealing that Batman peed in his costume during the most iconic scene in Year One:



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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2018, 08:30:12 PM »
The story that retcons Lockjaw talking is a bit weird.  There was no real reason to retcon a minor character like that since it could have just as easily been ignored but the explanation given was that it was the Inhuman royal family fucking with Ben Grimm the whole time which is out of character for them.

Haha what is this?

If its what i’m thinking of, a pretty cool cautionary tale for Quicksiver, who wanted to expise hus kud to terrigin(sp) mist, cuz you know, its not enough he had a healthy kid, he wanted the kid to have powers.
From the old THING solo series, issue 3. That story always stuck w. me. Didnt know it had been retconned.   





Yup and that tale was retconned into a practical joke.

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Re: Weirdest retcons?
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2018, 12:13:12 AM »
^^^thats...pretty stupid.

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Re: Weirdest retcons?
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2018, 08:15:54 AM »
I think it was either Mark Waid or Kurt Busiek who did the retcon.

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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2018, 09:36:33 AM »
It was Peter David, at the behest of his X-Factor editor. Here's the reasoning behind the retcon as he describes it--I kind of agree with the "why" of what he did, but still thought he could've put a little more thought and care into the actual retcon:

"For what it's worth, I didn't give a damn about the Byrne story one way or the other. I thought it wasn't bad; not great, but not bad. It did, however, frost the flakes of several writers and the "X-Factor" editor, basically because Byrne's story made the Inhumans look like assholes. John Byrne, foremost advocate of adhering to creator intent, ignored not only sequences where Stan and Jack had the Inhumans referring to, and treating, Lockjaw as their pet or dog, but the subsequent decades worth of continuity that did the same.

"So, since Quicksilver was going to be in 'X-Factor,' the writers--and the editor in particular--asked me to take the opportunity to undo that development as quickly and simply as I could. I shrugged, said, 'Okay, boss,' and did so."


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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2018, 11:10:04 AM »
That makes a bit more sense but yeah, it could've been done better.  Like maybe Lockjaw hid the fact from them or something.

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2018, 05:34:39 PM »
^^^yeah, and, in Byrne’s defense? The Inhumans ARE assholes. A bunch of elitist snobs.
 Its not just me saying it, i’ve read several articles across the net that point that out.
Its one reason them ‘replacing’ the X Men never worked/wouldnt work. Theyre about polar opposites, really.

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