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John McCain is dead, lets talk about why he was a piece of shit.

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Re: John McCain is dead, lets talk about why he was a piece of shit.
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2018, 10:47:16 AM »
I'm not trying to be mean-spirited but John McCain left a trail of blood and fire wherever he went and called for more of it.

Not only did he support Iraq like most of the country did, he supported attacking North Korea, intervening in Ukraine, regime change in Iran and Syria, wanting to intervene in several parts of Africa, calling for a Cold War with Russia and China...all while never wanting to consult with Congress or looking at how it should be paid for. And it was more than just pushing legislation, he went as far as dancing on what's legal and meeting with unvetted rebels and promising them that we were going to come. Some people think a few decades of action should have weight despite being war hero when he had a full head of hair

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2018, 11:26:01 AM »
The idea that we’re supposed to be in mourning as a nation, as if it’s equivalent to the assassination of Lincoln, is laughable. An old guy died. That’s it. Did ANYONE outside of his immediate family genuinely like this guy?


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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2018, 12:02:32 PM »
Yeah, he got some popularity at the end because he disliked Trump.  People ignored all that other shit for a while.

He was pretty popular in the media before that. Being a war hero let you get away with a lot of shit

And got some credit..for saying Obama not a muslim. Which you really shouldnt get THAT much credit..for NOT being super racist

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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2018, 03:08:44 PM »
I feel like this dude has been getting buried for a month. Can the military industrial complex propaganda end already? I love how McCain politicizes his own funeral but responding politically is considered tasteless.

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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2018, 04:32:21 PM »
MSNBC was actually just getting ready to talk about the specific progressive issues that Beto O'Rourke is running on vs Ted Cruz in Texas when they had to break away for another McCain tribute piece. If you know you are going to do that, can you not schedule Stormy Daniels segment number 468 for that slot instead?

We've seen this act before. Things like this are why more and more people are suspicious of the so-called "mainstream" media's motives.
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2018, 05:00:04 PM »
MSNBC was actually just getting ready to talk about the specific progressive issues that Beto O'Rourke is running on vs Ted Cruz in Texas when they had to break away for another McCain tribute piece. If you know you are going to do that, can you not schedule Stormy Daniels segment number 468 for that slot instead?

We've seen this act before. Things like this are why more and more people are suspicious of the so-called "mainstream" media's motives.

That kind of shit from MSNBC is exactly why Cenk Uygur left and created The Young Turks. I prefer guys like Jimmy Dore and Secular Talk to get a liberal perspective from but his story cant be ignored.

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Re: John McCain is dead, lets talk about why he was a piece of shit.
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2018, 05:11:06 PM »
The media has a rather short memory, they weren't very fond of him back when he ran for President.

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2018, 05:25:32 PM »
The media has a rather short memory, they weren't very fond of him back when he ran for President.

He did what CNN wanted. He denounced Sarah Palin (not that shes worthy of defending at all, but he chose the unvetted random person from Alaska, no one else), he stopped Obamacare for no consistent philosophical reason except because he had a petty grudge on Trump, supported unconstitutional never-debated-or-voted on intervention in Syria, and he made his wife political before his death so she can continue his awful legacy.

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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2018, 07:05:06 PM »
The media has a rather short memory, they weren't very fond of him back when he ran for President.

He did what CNN wanted. He denounced Sarah Palin (not that shes worthy of defending at all, but he chose the unvetted random person from Alaska, no one else), he stopped Obamacare for no consistent philosophical reason except because he had a petty grudge on Trump, supported unconstitutional never-debated-or-voted on intervention in Syria, and he made his wife political before his death so she can continue his awful legacy.

Also, he was one of the masterminds behind the NDAA 2012.  I think he had a hand in the Patriot ACT too iirc.

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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2018, 09:16:46 PM »
The media has a rather short memory, they weren't very fond of him back when he ran for President.

He did what CNN wanted. He denounced Sarah Palin (not that shes worthy of defending at all, but he chose the unvetted random person from Alaska, no one else), he stopped Obamacare for no consistent philosophical reason except because he had a petty grudge on Trump, supported unconstitutional never-debated-or-voted on intervention in Syria, and he made his wife political before his death so she can continue his awful legacy.

Also, he was one of the masterminds behind the NDAA 2012.  I think he had a hand in the Patriot ACT too iirc.

Yup, and many of those implementations happened during odd hours, holidays, and often without genuine congressional approval or oversight.

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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2018, 10:50:41 PM »
to be fair part of the reason he voted against the affordable care act is he was sick and felt some empathy and decide he dead anyway why not do one non asshole thing. nothing to lose

but it also fuck up some Republicans can emphasize when THEY have something done to them

kind of like why Cheney wasn't that anti gay

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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2018, 09:43:18 AM »
to be fair part of the reason he voted against the affordable care act is he was sick and felt some empathy and decide he dead anyway why not do one non asshole thing. nothing to lose

but it also fuck up some Republicans can emphasize when THEY have something done to them

kind of like why Cheney wasn't that anti gay

So the best we can say is that he's slightly less of an asshole than any other Republican.

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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2018, 08:35:15 PM »
Too be fair, that's saying alot these days. Hell, check out John McCain's "best friend".

But honestly, a lot of what has happened to the Republicans is his fault. He picked Sarah Palin, just so he had a chance at winning, that lead to those angry small equipped Tea Party, and that rhetoric lead to the Republicans going ultra right and now--Trump.

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« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2018, 08:46:08 PM »
Too be fair, that's saying alot these days. Hell, check out John McCain's "best friend".

But honestly, a lot of what has happened to the Republicans is his fault. He picked Sarah Palin, just so he had a chance at winning, that lead to those angry small equipped Tea Party, and that rhetoric lead to the Republicans going ultra right and now--Trump.

I say they've been ultra right for a long time.  They're just more blatant about it now.

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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2018, 04:37:51 AM »
What I'm saying, it's then they realized the had power to make everyone miserable.

And let's not forget one important thing: We'd all be a lot happier if Mitch McConnell were dead instead.