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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2018, 05:52:05 PM »
Slade doesn't strike harder than Elektra. you've yet to prove this

Just odds and ends scans from Animala's respect thread here:

Kicks and breaks a reinforced steel door.



It seems has no problem breaking plane doors.


Breaks steel chains


Assaults batplane and rip it in half(he's been drugged by Bane...not sure if it has been explained how and why DS didnt search revenge after this).






Impale Geoforce with swords,he's so fast he seems he's not even moving.




I'm not even posting his lifting feats.  Those are just striking feats.

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Where's Slade durability feats showing he'll last more?

Again, just picking up scans at random:

Takes multiple shots from Donna Troy and isn't bothered being smashed through a subway.



Takes a beating form Osiris and keeps talking.


Survives a shot that would have cut an ox in 2.


His healing factor allows him to counter implants in his brain that were able to hurt him before.



Takes some beating from a pissed WW,while she may be not hitting him with all his might he can clearly take a punishment(he has standard armourd here).





Survive and recovers in few seconds from getting hit by Chinese Superman.





Heals from having his eye ripped out,having a sword in his chest and being poisoned from Cheshire.






And I'm not going into his speed or skill showings yet.  This is too easy.

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doesn't change the fact Slade got Ko'ed by Bruce in that comic. Bruce clearly stalemated him, you can't change that fact.

And Slade has KO'd Batman.  And Elektra got her shit pushed in by Bullseye.  So what?

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yes elektra is stronger than batman

That ridiculous comment is best saved for another thread.  Shuruku can pull out a few scans to show otherwise if he wants.

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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2018, 07:08:32 PM »
Irrelevant. Just because it was written by bendis doesn't excuse it happened.

No doubt it happened, but it could be an aberration.

that showing is a skill feat, and shows Elektra being superior to Slade in the skill department. Do YOU dispute that?

No. I've long argued that Slade isn't up there with the best in pure skill.

2)  Yes I dispute that.

It's good to have that on the record, because I wouldn't want to go to the trouble of proving that Slade is physically superior to Elektra, only for you to claim you agreed with that all along.

Slade doesn't strike harder than Elektra. you've yet to prove this

I'm not obliged to, since I didn't claim he hits harder. I am claiming that he's stronger and more durable though, with faster healing as well, making him superior all round physically, even if she can strike similarly hard to him through greater skill.

3) Where's Slade durability feats showing he'll last more?

Takes a punch from Starfire, followed by one of her starbolts.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-New-Teen-Titans-1980/Issue-10?id=30312#12

Takes a rocky protrusion being slammed into him by Terra. Later in the fight, he also takes a punch from Cyborg followed by a charging headbutt from Changeling in the form of a ram.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-New-Teen-Titans-1980/Issue-34?id=30366#16

Takes being slammed into the side of a building by Atom in giant form.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Teen-Titans-1996/Issue-22?id=21141#9

Takes a speedblitz from Kid Flash, followed by a flying punch to the back from Superboy which embeds him into the road, followed by two further attacks from Cassie Wonder Girl.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Teen-Titans-2003/Issue-5?id=21216&quality=#3

Takes a speedblitz from Osiris.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Titans-2008/Annual?id=40182#16

I've shown feats where Elektra can do MASSIVE, MASSIVE damage. waiting for you to prove otherwise

The people you've shown her doing massive damage to were no-name goons. You haven't shown her inflicting that level of damage to anyone worth a damn.

4)  doesn't change the fact Slade got Ko'ed by Bruce in that comic. Bruce clearly stalemated him, you can't change that fact.

I'm not trying to change that. But you cited that reference as if it demonstrated that Slade wasn't physically superior to Bruce, and it doesn't demonstrate that.

5) yes elektra is stronger than batman, why do you think i posted THOSE FEATS for her in the post? Are you gonna keep asking dumb questions or are you gonna post superior strength feats for Bruce since he supposedly scales to slade, and you can't find a feat for slade so you have to y'know do scaley thingy

You've previously argued that Batman has superhuman feats above the 40 ton range, and can be argued to have Class 100 durability feats. You also posted this scan as evidence.




Does Elektra have feats greater than that, or were you lying about Batman's feats?

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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2018, 08:27:17 PM »
Haha, this fucking guy!

Deathstroke, 10/10. Elektra ain’t built for this.

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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2018, 09:03:57 PM »
Irrelevant. Just because it was written by bendis doesn't excuse it happened.

No doubt it happened, but it could be an aberration.

that showing is a skill feat, and shows Elektra being superior to Slade in the skill department. Do YOU dispute that?

No. I've long argued that Slade isn't up there with the best in pure skill.

2)  Yes I dispute that.

It's good to have that on the record, because I wouldn't want to go to the trouble of proving that Slade is physically superior to Elektra, only for you to claim you agreed with that all along.

Slade doesn't strike harder than Elektra. you've yet to prove this

I'm not obliged to, since I didn't claim he hits harder. I am claiming that he's stronger and more durable though, with faster healing as well, making him superior all round physically, even if she can strike similarly hard to him through greater skill.

3) Where's Slade durability feats showing he'll last more?

Takes a punch from Starfire, followed by one of her starbolts.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-New-Teen-Titans-1980/Issue-10?id=30312#12

Takes a rocky protrusion being slammed into him by Terra. Later in the fight, he also takes a punch from Cyborg followed by a charging headbutt from Changeling in the form of a ram.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-New-Teen-Titans-1980/Issue-34?id=30366#16

Takes being slammed into the side of a building by Atom in giant form.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Teen-Titans-1996/Issue-22?id=21141#9

Takes a speedblitz from Kid Flash, followed by a flying punch to the back from Superboy which embeds him into the road, followed by two further attacks from Cassie Wonder Girl.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Teen-Titans-2003/Issue-5?id=21216&quality=#3

Takes a speedblitz from Osiris.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Titans-2008/Annual?id=40182#16

I've shown feats where Elektra can do MASSIVE, MASSIVE damage. waiting for you to prove otherwise

The people you've shown her doing massive damage to were no-name goons. You haven't shown her inflicting that level of damage to anyone worth a damn.

4)  doesn't change the fact Slade got Ko'ed by Bruce in that comic. Bruce clearly stalemated him, you can't change that fact.

I'm not trying to change that. But you cited that reference as if it demonstrated that Slade wasn't physically superior to Bruce, and it doesn't demonstrate that.

5) yes elektra is stronger than batman, why do you think i posted THOSE FEATS for her in the post? Are you gonna keep asking dumb questions or are you gonna post superior strength feats for Bruce since he supposedly scales to slade, and you can't find a feat for slade so you have to y'know do scaley thingy

You've previously argued that Batman has superhuman feats above the 40 ton range, and can be argued to have Class 100 durability feats. You also posted this scan as evidence.




Does Elektra have feats greater than that, or were you lying about Batman's feats?

oh so now it's an  aberration? BECAUSE YOU say so? that's an assumption. it happened on panel, get over it. unless you have proof that it's an abrreation, it counts. "could"  isn't the same as "is"

starfire, and the others weren't even exerting all their effort on slade so how the hell is that quantifiable?

lol I was actually joking on bruce being CL100, nobody is stupid enough to actually believe ANYONE that think he is but nice try though


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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2018, 05:38:08 PM »
oh so now it's an  aberration? BECAUSE YOU say so? that's an assumption. it happened on panel, get over it. unless you have proof that it's an abrreation, it counts. "could"  isn't the same as "is"

I didn't say it was an aberration, I said it could be, as you recognised at the end there. It happened and counts as part of continuity either way, but if it were an aberration, that would mean it isn't representative of how most writers would script a fight between those two. No one else has written a fight between those two, so we don't know if this is representative or not, but Bendis has a history of writing things that are not representive of wider continuity.

starfire, and the others weren't even exerting all their effort on slade so how the hell is that quantifiable?

We saw that one of the starbolts aimed at Slade was powerful enough to split a car in two on the page before he was hit by one himself. Starfire also said she was "out for blood", and expressed surprise that he was still alive after being blasted, saying it was "impossible". Slade's retort indicates that he believed she'd hit him with her "best shot".
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-New-Teen-Titans-1980/Issue-10?id=30312#12

On this page, the Atom slams Slade into the side of a building with enough force to shatter the wall. That isn't an unquantifiable impact.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Teen-Titans-1996/Issue-22?id=21141#9

On this page, Superboy hits Slade in the back hard enough to shatter the pavement beneath him, and then Wonder Girl swings Slade through the corner of a building. Again, these are not unquantifiable impacts.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Teen-Titans-2003/Issue-5?id=21216&quality=#4

On this page, Slade takes multiple blows from Osiris, who had no reservations about killing his enemies, and clearly intended to kill Slade here.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Titans-2008/Annual?id=40182#16

Under the same writer, Osiris was shown to be capable of trading blows with Captain Marvel and Supergirl.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Titans-2008/Issue-32?id=40147#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Titans-2008/Annual?id=40182#31

lol I was actually joking on bruce being CL100, nobody is stupid enough to actually believe ANYONE that think he is but nice try though

So were you lying when you said Bruce had feats above the 40 ton range?

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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2018, 06:04:37 PM »
those durability feats aren't even above the 5-ton range.




ROFL in this same comic osiris never actually wanted to kill Slade when he threw blows at him hence WHY Slade asked him to kill him after acknowledging osiris wasn't exerting majority of his strength

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Titans-2008/Annual?id=40182#16
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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2018, 06:33:11 PM »
wolverine durability>>>>> slade's if you want to go that route. Wolverine has tanked been punched across states. It doesn't mean elektra can't jam her sais into him

All these barely impressive durability feats got me laughing. Tigershark is miles more durable than this and elektra jammed her sais through his skull.

Really getting hit enough to flip cars, falling from buildings? Honestly that's his suit durability and it isn't anywhere close to wolverine or ironfist durability feats
« Last Edit: August 10, 2018, 06:52:35 PM by gokenadams »

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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2018, 10:22:19 PM »
Why comparing Wolverine durability with DS?
Aside HF Wolverine is so durable because of his bones,remove them and you'll find that DS is overall more durable as his whole body has been greatly hardened.

And anyway, while is not his primary power he has a powerfull healing factor able to let him fight and talk regularly after having been stabbed in the chest.



He even overpower Cassandra Cain that does want to kill him.


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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2018, 10:31:23 PM »
Stabbing him in the chest and slashing his throat cant kill him or even slow him down for long.


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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2018, 10:38:21 PM »
Goken has been ignoring all scans for some reason.  I think he's fixated on Shuruku.

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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2018, 04:10:00 PM »
those durability feats aren't even above the 5-ton range.

Okay, so according to your last post, the feats weren't quantifiable; now all of a sudden, they can be quantified at five tons level or lower. Right. And how do Elektra's durability feats compare?

ROFL in this same comic osiris never actually wanted to kill Slade when he threw blows at him hence WHY Slade asked him to kill him after acknowledging osiris wasn't exerting majority of his strength

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Titans-2008/Annual?id=40182#16

Where does it say that Osiris wasn't exerting the majority of his strength? Quote the text you have in mind.

wolverine durability>>>>> slade's if you want to go that route. Wolverine has tanked been punched across states. It doesn't mean elektra can't jam her sais into him

All these barely impressive durability feats got me laughing. Tigershark is miles more durable than this and elektra jammed her sais through his skull.

Really getting hit enough to flip cars, falling from buildings? Honestly that's his suit durability and it isn't anywhere close to wolverine or ironfist durability feats

You're rebutting a point no one made. Nobody asserted that Slade is as durable as Wolverine or Tiger Shark, or that he can't be cut by Elektra's sais. The point being made is that Slade is more durable than Elektra.

Goken has been ignoring all scans for some reason.  I think he's fixated on Shuruku.

Is AP right, goken? Are you fixated on me?

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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2018, 05:19:22 PM »
those durability feats aren't even above the 5-ton range.

Okay, so according to your last post, the feats weren't quantifiable; now all of a sudden, they can be quantified at five tons level or lower. Right. And how do Elektra's durability feats compare?

ROFL in this same comic osiris never actually wanted to kill Slade when he threw blows at him hence WHY Slade asked him to kill him after acknowledging osiris wasn't exerting majority of his strength

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Titans-2008/Annual?id=40182#16

Where does it say that Osiris wasn't exerting the majority of his strength? Quote the text you have in mind.

wolverine durability>>>>> slade's if you want to go that route. Wolverine has tanked been punched across states. It doesn't mean elektra can't jam her sais into him

All these barely impressive durability feats got me laughing. Tigershark is miles more durable than this and elektra jammed her sais through his skull.

Really getting hit enough to flip cars, falling from buildings? Honestly that's his suit durability and it isn't anywhere close to wolverine or ironfist durability feats

You're rebutting a point no one made. Nobody asserted that Slade is as durable as Wolverine or Tiger Shark, or that he can't be cut by Elektra's sais. The point being made is that Slade is more durable than Elektra.

Goken has been ignoring all scans for some reason.  I think he's fixated on Shuruku.

Is AP right, goken? Are you fixated on me?
                                             Oh so slade have CL100 durability feats now? I can show you instance of far less than that Koing slade

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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2018, 03:12:23 AM »
Goken has been ignoring all scans for some reason.  I think he's fixated on Shuruku.
Yeah, it seems he is.
At least Abhi would have posted  40 pages of scan here.

Anyway, I'd place DS durability in Spiderman range, maybe a litle less durable but with a way faster healing factor.

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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2018, 09:59:29 AM »
Tanking attacks from CL100's isn't consistent for Slade, He's been hurt by less

 Being bullrushed through a stone wall made him scream out in pain (Deathstroke Vol. 2 #5)

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111346154/6469180-m0iieyx.jpg


 The shockwave of Deadborn's hit makes him scream out.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111346154/6470544-003.jpg


: Being blasted out of an apartment significantly dazes/stuns him

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111346154/6470547-007.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111346154/6470548-008.jpg

you can hurt him with much lesser force than 20+ tons, as seen by the Deadborn, explosion and being bullrushed through a stone wall examples.



and here in Deathstroke Vol. 4 #18 Jericho who is wearing a 7th generation Ikon suit. beats the shit out of Slade. for reference One of his hits barely broke some concrete off, and it was a small portion of concrete:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111346154/6470606-rco018_1493815037.jpg


Another of his punches didn't go right through a metal pole, tho it did bend it:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111346154/6470610-rco019_1493815037.jpg

Based on consistency of that fight, Jericho wasn't using casual truck ragdolling blows. He was using metal bending and small portion of concrete breaking blows.  So, no YOU'RE wrong again. Slade durability is no where around spidey's tf



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Re: Deathstroke vs Elektra
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2018, 12:07:30 PM »
Ahahah
I find you trolling around so cute that I'd hug you.
I could provide way better low showing than these one.
Damn...I think you're a DS fan.