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Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?

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Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« on: August 06, 2018, 09:09:09 PM »
At the end of Dragonball Super

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2018, 09:14:08 PM »
I haven't caught up with the end of Super yet, but did something happen with Master Roshi?  Otherwise Krillin passed Roshi at the beginning of DBZ and should be ridiculously stronger by Super's timeline.

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2018, 10:39:29 PM »
Apparently we really never saw him cut loose. Powerwise it seemed like he was only a little bit behind Tien and Krillin and was getting lots of props for being  very strategic fighter.

I'd still give it to Krillin since he kicks it into high gear for the Tournament of Power but it's not as cut and dry as it once was.

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2018, 11:21:05 PM »
Interesting.  So he's supposedly always been this level, or did he improve himself for the tournament?

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2018, 11:30:41 PM »
In terms of raw power and technique, Krillin still beats out Roshi quite
a bit. From the Destructo Disc, Solar Flare, Kamea, the technique he
used to kill multiple Saiba Men, etc. He's also fought against much
stronger opponents than Roshi has.

That being said, Super showed that Roshi is still a cunning fighter, so
I could see him pulling the occassional upset win, but overall, Krillin
should be able to beat him consistently.

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2018, 11:35:53 PM »
Interesting.  So he's supposedly always been this level, or did he improve himself for the tournament?

Iirc he could always reach those marks but had to hold back because he's old and pushing himself is hard on him.

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2018, 12:11:21 PM »
I have a theory about Master Roshi. He could have remained a Z fighter for longer time but his addiction to porn and women escalated to a truly unhealthy level. I even have a canon example. During the prep for the Cell Games, even YAMCHA was training. What was Roshi doing? Watching women do yoga on TV.

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2018, 12:13:45 PM »
In terms of raw power and technique, Krillin still beats out Roshi quite
a bit. From the Destructo Disc, Solar Flare, Kamea, the technique he
used to kill multiple Saiba Men, etc. He's also fought against much
stronger opponents than Roshi has.

That being said, Super showed that Roshi is still a cunning fighter, so
I could see him pulling the occassional upset win, but overall, Krillin
should be able to beat him consistently.

Good argument. Roshi's "turning every atom into electricity" or whatever move I think is extremely underrated and Roshi has a bunch of tricks under his sleeve, but your argument does hold. Krillin flies, has attained high levels of power,  has a wide range of skills, has trained with the likes of Android 18, etc. BUT, could an injured Krillin do as well against Frost as Roshi did? Super causes a lot of questions! Glad Roshi toppled his addiction and surpassed his limits :-)

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2018, 01:51:01 PM »
I've always seen Master Roshi as among the most strategic and experience fighter, perhaps second to Vegeta. But as it been already stated his addiction to Porn, sex and old age has diminished his stamina. I can definitely could see MR beating Krillin if it's a short fight but let  the fight last a long time the advantage shift to Krillin.

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2018, 09:45:16 PM »
I have a theory about Master Roshi. He could have remained a Z fighter for longer time but his addiction to porn and women escalated to a truly unhealthy level. I even have a canon example. During the prep for the Cell Games, even YAMCHA was training. What was Roshi doing? Watching women do yoga on TV.

OMG go catch up on Super now. Seriously.

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2018, 10:43:43 PM »
I have a theory about Master Roshi. He could have remained a Z fighter for longer time but his addiction to porn and women escalated to a truly unhealthy level. I even have a canon example. During the prep for the Cell Games, even YAMCHA was training. What was Roshi doing? Watching women do yoga on TV.

OMG go catch up on Super now. Seriously.

I have, it almost made me cry. MUTEN ROSHI COMES BACK AND DEFEATS ADDICTION! What a plot, what a show,. Toriyama for the goddamn win

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2018, 01:43:36 AM »
Super just did what DB has always done, which is move the goalposts

But Krillin and Roshi being in a tournament for the fate of the universe is some gay ass shit, even by Dragonball standards

Just dudes engaging in sexual intercourse everywhere

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2018, 12:32:33 PM »
The shit writing in Super has allower Roshi (due to secret training) become on par with Krillin to potentially above as far as the anime is concerned, in the manga both Tien and Krilling got utterly dismissed by Frost while Roshi said he could hold his own against Frost thus saying Roshi surpassed Krillin and Tien in the manga.

Either version Rosho comes out on par with or stronger than Krillin and since I have Roshi as the more experienced and tactical fighter over Krillin I give him the win.

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Re: Master Roshi vs Krillin, who wins?
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2018, 01:05:27 AM »
BUT, could an injured Krillin do as well against Frost as Roshi did? Super causes a lot of questions! Glad Roshi toppled his addiction and surpassed his limits :-)

Keep in mind that in Dragonball Super, power scaling & levels are completely FUBAR'd.

Without any kind of special maguffin to aid him, Android 17 was capable of fighting evenly
against a Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Not only is this complete and utter bullshit, but its
fucking retarded.

So you need to take a LOT of things Super does with a grain of salt. Because it literally
is a clusterfuck of shit, nonsensical writing for the most part.