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Re: Arrow/Flash/Legends vs Justice League (movie)
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2018, 03:41:23 AM »
Chasm between DCcu and MCU teams in speed? Certainly not in power.

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Re: Arrow/Flash/Legends vs Justice League (movie)
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2018, 04:03:27 AM »
Chasm between DCcu and MCU teams in speed? Certainly not in power.

It was only speed that I was referring to. I just find it funny that the speed kills argument can be used to justify a win on one hand but be casually discarded when that speed is on the other teams side. Suddenly strength and durability are more imortant hahaha. What ever agument works on the day I suppose

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Re: Arrow/Flash/Legends vs Justice League (movie)
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2018, 09:29:54 AM »
My point is clear as day and is the same point Almighty Tallest and beatboks made.

THE MOVIE IS NOT OUT YET SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO GO ON!

My God, are you competing against gokenadams for stupidest person on the board?
Fuck the movie is not out yet. Justice league is out. And Steppy took a harder hit and was unmoved. And yet he was knocked around by AM. Which means Arthue clearly will knock the shit out if Steel.

Way to compare oranges and grapes. Its not a contest between gokenadams and you, youbslaughter stomped in the stupidity dept.

1. No strength or durability feat of Aquamans in JL is in any way quantifiable.

2. Durability to energy attacks =/= blunt force durability.

3. 4 ordinary amazons were able to hold Steppy back from the Mother box. Clearly he aint that strong and comparing Arthur to Steppy comes up short against the dwarf star train feat by orders of magnitude.

4. Theres only one thing in CW that has been shown to penetrate Steel and that is a bullet made from dwarf star material.  He's no sold everything else.

Until we see an actual quantifiable strength feat for Arthur  (which the sub feat from trailer isnt as it could be quatified as a fraction of Steels or marginally above), there is nothing that even puts him on Steel's level in strength or durability. Until we see something to show the penetration capacity of the trident (to know if it matches nu52) he has NO means of even damaging Nate significantly.

DCEU Flash gets stomped in a hearbeat by CW

Arthut looses to Steel MAYBE he puts up a fight but doubtful.

That leaves cyborg, Supes, WW and Bats to handle SG, Ray, Vixen, Ari, Killer Frost, Vibe, Atom, heat wave Capt cold, terrific, black canary, white canary, SGs sister and wild dog, with Flash and Nate joining soon. All under the direction of felicity, Iris and Wells.

Vibe BFRs two of the three leaving Superman to face the team.  BC disorients him with a scream so Arrow puts a Knite arrow or two into him. While weakened the rest of the metas and SG finish him before Dianna can return (she will be first) while the non metas take out Bats. Dianna returns and will also be beaten by superior numbers and greater power (SG).

Then cyborg is f#$ed
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The energy attack of Zeus was being compared also using the fact that he effortlessly blew apart the trinity. While the strain on Cyborg and Superman Nearly killed them. Zeus Bolt only knocked Steppy Back.

His durability>>>>>Steel. Arthur had no problem knocking him around.

Amazons were able to Hold up 20 ton pillars for a time. Just two of them. Id imagine 10 or 20 of them holding one arm of Steppy for 3 seconds isnt a bad showing.




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Re: Arrow/Flash/Legends vs Justice League (movie)
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2018, 10:50:06 AM »
My point is clear as day and is the same point Almighty Tallest and beatboks made.

THE MOVIE IS NOT OUT YET SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO GO ON!

My God, are you competing against gokenadams for stupidest person on the board?
Fuck the movie is not out yet. Justice league is out. And Steppy took a harder hit and was unmoved. And yet he was knocked around by AM. Which means Arthue clearly will knock the shit out if Steel.

Way to compare oranges and grapes. Its not a contest between gokenadams and you, youbslaughter stomped in the stupidity dept.

1. No strength or durability feat of Aquamans in JL is in any way quantifiable.

2. Durability to energy attacks =/= blunt force durability.

3. 4 ordinary amazons were able to hold Steppy back from the Mother box. Clearly he aint that strong and comparing Arthur to Steppy comes up short against the dwarf star train feat by orders of magnitude.

4. Theres only one thing in CW that has been shown to penetrate Steel and that is a bullet made from dwarf star material.  He's no sold everything else.

Until we see an actual quantifiable strength feat for Arthur  (which the sub feat from trailer isnt as it could be quatified as a fraction of Steels or marginally above), there is nothing that even puts him on Steel's level in strength or durability. Until we see something to show the penetration capacity of the trident (to know if it matches nu52) he has NO means of even damaging Nate significantly.

DCEU Flash gets stomped in a hearbeat by CW

Arthut looses to Steel MAYBE he puts up a fight but doubtful.

That leaves cyborg, Supes, WW and Bats to handle SG, Ray, Vixen, Ari, Killer Frost, Vibe, Atom, heat wave Capt cold, terrific, black canary, white canary, SGs sister and wild dog, with Flash and Nate joining soon. All under the direction of felicity, Iris and Wells.

Vibe BFRs two of the three leaving Superman to face the team.  BC disorients him with a scream so Arrow puts a Knite arrow or two into him. While weakened the rest of the metas and SG finish him before Dianna can return (she will be first) while the non metas take out Bats. Dianna returns and will also be beaten by superior numbers and greater power (SG).

Then cyborg is f#$ed
This2 was dumb

The energy attack of Zeus was being compared also using the fact that he effortlessly blew apart the trinity. While the strain on Cyborg and Superman Nearly killed them. Zeus Bolt only knocked Steppy Back.

His durability>>>>>Steel. Arthur had no problem knocking him around.

Amazons were able to Hold up 20 ton pillars for a time. Just two of them. Id imagine 10 or 20 of them holding one arm of Steppy for 3 seconds isnt a bad showing.
ROFLMAO.
Everything you say gets more and more nonsensicle. You just dismantled your own argument.[/i]

If only it was 10 or 20 amazons and not 4 or 5  (as it was) who kept steppy from what he most wanted when he first crashed into the room they kept the MB while other Amazons escaped with it.

 If to was 10 or 20 that places him below 200 tons for 10 and 400 tons for 20 (because it was only 4 or 5 hes obviously he's really only barely 100 tonner).

Since Steel's best actually quantifiable feat (something Steppy and Aq both lack) is squarely between 900 and over 1000 tons this means IF it was 20 amazons (which it wasnt) steppy is at best 0.444 the strength of Steel. If it was 10 he's only 0.222 his strength. The reality of course is hes actually only 0.111 and Arthur looses to him in a solo fight. Hell he looses to him when he teams up with WW.

Maybe I've overestimated the JLA. You know what you just convinced me now thatbsteel solos Aq and WW. I dont know why I didnt see that before.

I'll ignore the Zeus BS because as I've alredy said enegy durability is nothing to guage blunt force durability by. Hawkman can tank energy blasts like nothing because nth metal loves and absorbs energy (its why he never gets burned or frozen in spave without a space suit). He gets belted by mid metas all day long though.

Really if you want to get into a battle of wits you should consider least trying to arm yourself. At least gokenadams steals the ideas of other posters feom other forums. Its really. Not challenging debating you when you undermine your own points

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Re: Arrow/Flash/Legends vs Justice League (movie)
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2018, 11:48:30 AM »
Steppenwolf had trouble punching through Batman's vehicle.  He was not that powerful of a character.  Also, not only did the Amazons hold him back, but so did a swarm of Parademons (twice).

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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2018, 11:56:13 AM »
Steppenwolf had trouble punching through Batman's vehicle.  He was not that powerful of a character.  Also, not only did the Amazons hold him back, but so did a swarm of Parademons (twice).
Same Parademons who seemed to be super strong. Depending on what world they came from. Also Do you know exactly what Batman's vehicle was made from?

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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2018, 02:33:24 PM »
Steppenwolf had trouble punching through Batman's vehicle.  He was not that powerful of a character.  Also, not only did the Amazons hold him back, but so did a swarm of Parademons (twice).
Same Parademons who seemed to be super strong. Depending on what world they came from. Also Do you know exactly what Batman's vehicle was made from?

Those parademons were slightly above Batman level.  He was able to wrestle and kill them one-on-one and the other League members were killing them en made.

As for Batman’s vehicle, we have no reason to believe it was anything other than Earth material.  Once again, the Parademons were damaging his stuff.  Meanwhile, the Batmobile bounced off Supes and the Batwing couldn’t stand up to a single shot from Doomsday.

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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2018, 05:56:12 PM »
Steppenwolf had trouble punching through Batman's vehicle.  He was not that powerful of a character.  Also, not only did the Amazons hold him back, but so did a swarm of Parademons (twice).
Same Parademons who seemed to be super strong. Depending on what world they came from. Also Do you know exactly what Batman's vehicle was made from?

Those parademons were slightly above Batman level.  He was able to wrestle and kill them one-on-one and the other League members were killing them en made.

As for Batman’s vehicle, we have no reason to believe it was anything other than Earth material.  Once again, the Parademons were damaging his stuff.  Meanwhile, the Batmobile bounced off Supes and the Batwing couldn’t stand up to a single shot from Doomsday.
Superman couldn't either.

Ad for Parademons, they came from different worlds. Some could have been from Tamarin and some from Daxam and some from an Earth like Planet.

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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2018, 06:22:38 PM »
Steppenwolf had trouble punching through Batman's vehicle.  He was not that powerful of a character.  Also, not only did the Amazons hold him back, but so did a swarm of Parademons (twice).
Same Parademons who seemed to be super strong. Depending on what world they came from. Also Do you know exactly what Batman's vehicle was made from?

Those parademons were slightly above Batman level.  He was able to wrestle and kill them one-on-one and the other League members were killing them en made.

As for Batman’s vehicle, we have no reason to believe it was anything other than Earth material.  Once again, the Parademons were damaging his stuff.  Meanwhile, the Batmobile bounced off Supes and the Batwing couldn’t stand up to a single shot from Doomsday.
Superman couldn't either.

Ad for Parademons, they came from different worlds. Some could have been from Tamarin and some from Daxam and some from an Earth like Planet.

Superman couldn't what?  Bust up Batman's ride?  Because he busted Batman's ride just by standing in the road, then he tore the top off after it wrecked.

And if the Parademons were so powerful, then why is it Batman and Amazons could kill them?  Hell, I'm pretty sure I saw some medieval humans killing them in the flashback.

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Re: Arrow/Flash/Legends vs Justice League (movie)
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2018, 07:11:54 PM »
Hahahaha this is riotous. Now beating a parademon is some huge feat. A parademon that couldnt even break outnof Batman's net and a few harpoons in the opening sequence.

We're supposed to take the fact that Steppy tanks a blast that Cyborg and Supes were knocked over by as though its a physical blow (because lets face it aquaman doesnt have blasts) yet in a physical fight Steppenwolf rips off Cyborgs arm clearly showing how unequal the two are.

Any excuse to have JLA win as the day requires huh

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« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2018, 06:35:46 AM »
Steppenwolf had trouble punching through Batman's vehicle.  He was not that powerful of a character.  Also, not only did the Amazons hold him back, but so did a swarm of Parademons (twice).
Same Parademons who seemed to be super strong. Depending on what world they came from. Also Do you know exactly what Batman's vehicle was made from?

Those parademons were slightly above Batman level.  He was able to wrestle and kill them one-on-one and the other League members were killing them en made.

As for Batman’s vehicle, we have no reason to believe it was anything other than Earth material.  Once again, the Parademons were damaging his stuff.  Meanwhile, the Batmobile bounced off Supes and the Batwing couldn’t stand up to a single shot from Doomsday.
Superman couldn't either.

Ad for Parademons, they came from different worlds. Some could have been from Tamarin and some from Daxam and some from an Earth like Planet.

Superman couldn't what?  Bust up Batman's ride?  Because he busted Batman's ride just by standing in the road, then he tore the top off after it wrecked.

And if the Parademons were so powerful, then why is it Batman and Amazons could kill them?  Hell, I'm pretty sure I saw some medieval humans killing them in the flashback.
Couldn't stand up to  DD punch.

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Re: Arrow/Flash/Legends vs Justice League (movie)
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2018, 08:23:50 AM »
Superman got KO'd from Doomsday's punch?

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« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2018, 11:27:09 AM »
Superman got KO'd from Doomsday's punch?
No. He couldnt STAND up to them. We did  say stand. Keep up.

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« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2018, 12:17:48 PM »
Superman got KO'd from Doomsday's punch?
No. He couldnt STAND up to them. We did  say stand. Keep up.

What does Superman getting knocked around by Doomsday have anything to do with anything?

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« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2018, 02:13:50 PM »
Superman got KO'd from Doomsday's punch?
No. He couldnt STAND up to them. We did  say stand. Keep up.

You don't understand that phrase. Got it.