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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2018, 07:08:49 PM »
Do you even have the vapors?

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2018, 10:44:11 PM »
I'm swooning something mighty over here, guy.

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2018, 03:28:16 AM »
I have to say I am absolutely shocked, SHOCKED, that Ahbi & Jellyrobes misrepresented and misconstrued “feats” for Superman. *clutching pearls to my chest*
Whatcha talking about? I never said Superman outsmarted Lex, he tricked Lex with the help of Starman.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Starman-1988/Issue-28?id=61211

Shuruku is a lying piece of shit as always. Superman didn't know about Mxy involvement but his idea was to trick Lex into giving up the secret of his power loss was still his own trick.

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2018, 03:28:22 AM »
I have to say I am absolutely shocked, SHOCKED, that Ahbi & Jellyrobes misrepresented and misconstrued “feats” for Superman. *clutching pearls to my chest*
Whatcha talking about? I never said Superman outsmarted Lex, he tricked Lex with the help of Starman.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Starman-1988/Issue-28?id=61211

Shuruku is a lying piece of shit as always. Superman didn't know about Mxy involvement but his idea was to trick Lex into giving up the secret of his power loss was still his own trick.

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2018, 03:31:06 AM »
Cool. Where's the stuff you left out? You know...the part that gives it all some context, you deceitful cur.
I didn't click any of that shit, either. Who's still using photobucket these days? It's 2018, guy. Jesus. Christ.

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2018, 06:14:08 AM »
Cool. Where's the stuff you left out? You know...the part that gives it all some context, you deceitful cur.


I even said he hasn't outsmarted Lex, he just tricked him.

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I didn't click any of that shit, either. Who's still using photobucket these days? It's 2018, guy. Jesus. Christ.

Am I supposed to care?

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2018, 07:10:16 AM »
I want to see instances of Supes outsmarting Lex, Brainiac, or other highly intelligent villains?  I'm not looking for times he defeated them mind you.  I want times when he out-prepped them.  Even while fully powered.  Let's start there.
He has outsmarted Brainiac 13 and Lex Luthor at the same time.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763e.jpg

Credit to LGU.

So I did some snooping of that story.  Superman knew Brainiac couldn't understand Kryptonian tech so he tricked Lex into plugging him into a power conduit so he could use K-tech against him. I asked for a situation in which Supes used some amount of prep while also using powers, which you provided.  It's a decent plan and it also required Superman to use his superhuman abilities.  That would not have worked if he wasn't a Kryptonian capable of surviving the ordeal.  Now, how do you suppose Superman would have saved the day if he didn't have any powers?
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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2018, 11:38:40 AM »
I have to say I am absolutely shocked, SHOCKED, that Ahbi & Jellyrobes misrepresented and misconstrued “feats” for Superman. *clutching pearls to my chest*

Whatcha talking about? I never said Superman outsmarted Lex, he tricked Lex with the help of Starman.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Starman-1988/Issue-28?id=61211

Shuruku is a lying piece of shit as always. Superman didn't know about Mxy involvement but his idea was to trick Lex into giving up the secret of his power loss was still his own trick.

What did I lie about?

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2018, 12:16:51 PM »
What did I lie about?

You said you'd never hurt me. *sniff*

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2018, 01:35:32 PM »
I want to see instances of Supes outsmarting Lex, Brainiac, or other highly intelligent villains?  I'm not looking for times he defeated them mind you.  I want times when he out-prepped them.  Even while fully powered.  Let's start there.
He has outsmarted Brainiac 13 and Lex Luthor at the same time.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/intelligence/ActionComics763e.jpg

Credit to LGU.

So I did some snooping of that story.  Superman knew Brainiac couldn't understand Kryptonian tech so he tricked Lex into plugging him into a power conduit so he could use K-tech against him. I asked for a situation in which Supes used some amount of prep while also using powers, which you provided.  It's a decent plan and it also required Superman to use his superhuman abilities.  That would not have worked if he wasn't a Kryptonian capable of surviving the ordeal.  Now, how do you suppose Superman would have saved the day if he didn't have any powers?
I don't think he could. Hence why I did not listed it as his human feats.

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2018, 01:38:54 PM »
I have to say I am absolutely shocked, SHOCKED, that Ahbi & Jellyrobes misrepresented and misconstrued “feats” for Superman. *clutching pearls to my chest*

Whatcha talking about? I never said Superman outsmarted Lex, he tricked Lex with the help of Starman.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Starman-1988/Issue-28?id=61211

Shuruku is a lying piece of shit as always. Superman didn't know about Mxy involvement but his idea was to trick Lex into giving up the secret of his power loss was still his own trick.

What did I lie about?
That I said Superman knew about Mxy involvement or tricking Lex would restore his power.

He infiltrated and destroyed a Kobra base without any prep.
Without powers?


Yes.
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He has tricked Lex one or two times without any powers but not in a fight.
He didn't use his powers directly, but I'm sure he had to use his powers at some point in the process of defeating Lex.
No, when Mxy turned Superman powerless by red kryptonite, Clark tricked Lex into revealing the same to him and got his power back.
That's my quote and Superman absolutely tricked Lex into revealing how he made Superman powerless.

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2018, 01:47:39 PM »
I have to say I am absolutely shocked, SHOCKED, that Ahbi & Jellyrobes misrepresented and misconstrued “feats” for Superman. *clutching pearls to my chest*

Whatcha talking about? I never said Superman outsmarted Lex, he tricked Lex with the help of Starman.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Starman-1988/Issue-28?id=61211

Shuruku is a lying piece of shit as always. Superman didn't know about Mxy involvement but his idea was to trick Lex into giving up the secret of his power loss was still his own trick.

What did I lie about?
That I said Superman knew about Mxy involvement or tricking Lex would restore his power.

He infiltrated and destroyed a Kobra base without any prep.
Without powers?


Yes.
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He has tricked Lex one or two times without any powers but not in a fight.
He didn't use his powers directly, but I'm sure he had to use his powers at some point in the process of defeating Lex.
No, when Mxy turned Superman powerless by red kryptonite, Clark tricked Lex into revealing the same to him and got his power back.
That's my quote and Superman absolutely tricked Lex into revealing how he made Superman powerless.

He said you omitted context. You did. There's no way you can argue against that, whatsoever.

One of two things happened when you gave that example:
1. You withheld information on purpose
2. You didn't know what you were talking about and provided a bad example to support your claim

Which one is it?

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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2018, 02:31:06 PM »
That I said Superman knew about Mxy involvement or tricking Lex would restore his power.

I didn't claim you said either of those things.

That's my quote and Superman absolutely tricked Lex into revealing how he made Superman powerless.

To say he "tricked" Lex suggests he deceived him in some way. Now certainly, he fooled Lex into thinking he was talking to a mild-mannered reporter rather than Superman. But what part of the question itself -- Clark directly asking Lex how he took Superman's power away -- was deceptive?


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Re: Human Superman vs Green Goblin
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2018, 03:37:34 PM »
I don't think he could. Hence why I did not listed it as his human feats.

Right.  I was just trying to get an idea of what Superman could do in this thread.  So far, there are no real examples of what a human Superman can do with prep.