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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2018, 11:26:21 PM »
Yeah but I just explained what I don't like about marvel and why I won't buy their comics.

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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2018, 11:28:14 PM »
This is part of the problem with you socialists. You don't know how economy and industry work. Marvel comics sales is the health of the industry. Always has been. DC as well but less so. When sales are up, there is creativity, innovation and competition. Comic stores can pay rent. Writers and artists and staff make money. Comic fans have great comics. Everything is great.

When sales are down, like they are now, comic shops close, people lose their jobs, sooner than you think there will be no place to sell comics to the public. You can't download comics for free anymore. There will be no more comics industry if this continues.

And why? Because instead of good stories and compelling characters we have agenda driven stories, and political driven characters. And the sales reflect that.

If you want another example look at Star wars with last jedi and now Solo, another political and agenda driven franchise gone to shit.

This is the problem with you dictatorist who think they know what's best for others with no quantifiable evidence or proof to back it up.  You go with shit you make up and fail to provide evidence to support it.  You assume to know what others do and do not know.  When the majority of us clearly understand the capitalistic nature of our country.  But, your silent on the socialist hand outs that cater to large corporate businesses that fail to give many Americans full time jobs and benes. 

Don't forget Star Wars period Leia was one of the strongest characters in that series.  I'm guessing it's those bitch made bastards filling tea cups with their tears nowadays as they whine now.   And just what was the agenda of Solo?  I'll look forward this verifiable proof. 
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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2018, 11:57:22 PM »
If that's true you're one of the few who seems to be supporting sjw marvel.

So, question, if long time fans don't like those titled I mentioned is it because they are racist woman haters? Or is it because the don't like the characters and stories? Iyo of course

You're an imbecile. You said it's not about diversity/sjw and yet here you are defending the exact bullshit which started comicsgate.  I've read Riri as Iron man and it's a pretty damn good book same as Thor with Jane Foster.  Why should the Hammer be passed only to blonde an blue-eyed characters white men?  The exception being better Ray bill that I can think of off the Top of my head.  Someone worthy should honestly potentially be anyone.  Not just because someone who makes someone feel comfortable or fits inside of their mental box.  And as for the women.  We have women who are in better physical condition than a lot of dudes.  If that's something their paltry egos are afraid of them they should just stick to the shit that makes them feel comfortable.  Comics from the 40 and 50's.  The good ol days.  Because, the world is changing and we should have no problem leaving dead weight and outdated ideas behind that aren't beneficial to society.

Jane Thor was a pretty good book huh? And Riri? Well, she was pretty good too. And fake Wolverine, is so cool. And Cho Hulk was awesome. And they were all so cool and awesome and pretty good that they all got replaced with their originals.

Why do you think that is? Maybe their sales have something to do with it? Then begs the question, why are sales so low? Why aren't people buying these comics?

And lol @ there are a lot of women tougher than dudes or whatever the fuck you just said.

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« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2018, 12:22:47 AM »
If that's true you're one of the few who seems to be supporting sjw marvel.

So, question, if long time fans don't like those titled I mentioned is it because they are racist woman haters? Or is it because the don't like the characters and stories? Iyo of course

You're an imbecile. You said it's not about diversity/sjw and yet here you are defending the exact bullshit which started comicsgate.  I've read Riri as Iron man and it's a pretty damn good book same as Thor with Jane Foster.  Why should the Hammer be passed only to blonde an blue-eyed characters white men?  The exception being better Ray bill that I can think of off the Top of my head.  Someone worthy should honestly potentially be anyone.  Not just because someone who makes someone feel comfortable or fits inside of their mental box.  And as for the women.  We have women who are in better physical condition than a lot of dudes.  If that's something their paltry egos are afraid of them they should just stick to the shit that makes them feel comfortable.  Comics from the 40 and 50's.  The good ol days.  Because, the world is changing and we should have no problem leaving dead weight and outdated ideas behind that aren't beneficial to society.

Jane Thor was a pretty good book huh? And Riri? Well, she was pretty good too. And fake Wolverine, is so cool. And Cho Hulk was awesome. And they were all so cool and awesome and pretty good that they all got replaced with their originals.

Why do you think that is? Maybe their sales have something to do with it? Then begs the question, why are sales so low? Why aren't people buying these comics?

And lol @ there are a lot of women tougher than dudes or whatever the fuck you just said.


Funny, How many times has Thor or other prime characters series been dropped or rebooted due to shitty sales?  I clearly recall a big problem with sales in the late '90s.  Care to answer that that one?  Why have they had to do reboots for the flagship characters if they're guaranteed to make such good sales and always have top notch stories.  Even superman and mm any of the other top DC books have been botched.  Why not give use the answer to all of that before you know diversity and sjws came into being.  Since, you know it all.  We'll need that proof know it all.  And Laura as Wolverine was definitely a better average book.  Hell, how many reboots did Logan have now that I think about it.

And I you need to read exactly what I said. Don't try to twist it.  But, now that you mention it.  There's tougher women nowadays. Maybe, those emasculated man babies should spend time in a gym or self-defense class and grow some nuts instead of crying behind a keyboard and waxing their manicured mustaches. 
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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2018, 12:31:44 AM »
Yeah but I just explained what I don't like about marvel and why I won't buy their comics.

So now Marvel should make comics that people want to buy. Don't you think?

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« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2018, 11:09:36 AM »
This is part of the problem with you socialists. You don't know how economy and industry work. Marvel comics sales is the health of the industry. Always has been. DC as well but less so. When sales are up, there is creativity, innovation and competition. Comic stores can pay rent. Writers and artists and staff make money. Comic fans have great comics. Everything is great.

When sales are down, like they are now, comic shops close, people lose their jobs, sooner than you think there will be no place to sell comics to the public. You can't download comics for free anymore. There will be no more comics industry if this continues.

And why? Because instead of good stories and compelling characters we have agenda driven stories, and political driven characters. And the sales reflect that.

If you want another example look at Star wars with last jedi and now Solo, another political and agenda driven franchise gone to shit.
Wow! You just can't seem to get ANYTHING correct these days. Sad!

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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2018, 11:20:39 AM »
It's almost as if Marvel and DC has a MYRIAD of issues dating back many years, many of which are tied to their physical format of a print medium and have little to do with actual content in any regard, and that the combination of many of these is why sales are low. Wow, it seems like anyone with two brain cells to rub together who is capable of looking at complete pictures would be able to understand that.

But no, no matter what Neo provides as his reasoning for not buying Marvel/DC books, if only all their characters were straight, white men, he would be buyin'!
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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2018, 12:19:23 PM »
You have to understand, letters is a true comic fan. You can tell by the way he doesn't read comics.

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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2018, 01:19:27 PM »
It's almost as if Marvel and DC has a MYRIAD of issues dating back many years, many of which are tied to their physical format of a print medium and have little to do with actual content in any regard, and that the combination of many of these is why sales are low. Wow, it seems like anyone with two brain cells to rub together who is capable of looking at complete pictures would be able to understand that.

But no, no matter what Neo provides as his reasoning for not buying Marvel/DC books, if only all their characters were straight, white men, he would be buyin'!

The problem with the comics industry is the political saturation in the medium. Most comic fans don't want that. They want good stories and good characters and good art.

I never said anything about straight white men in this thread. Straight white men are not the only good characters in comicbooks. You seem to have quite a dislike for them tho. Why is that?

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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2018, 01:21:18 PM »
This is part of the problem with you socialists. You don't know how economy and industry work. Marvel comics sales is the health of the industry. Always has been. DC as well but less so. When sales are up, there is creativity, innovation and competition. Comic stores can pay rent. Writers and artists and staff make money. Comic fans have great comics. Everything is great.

When sales are down, like they are now, comic shops close, people lose their jobs, sooner than you think there will be no place to sell comics to the public. You can't download comics for free anymore. There will be no more comics industry if this continues.

And why? Because instead of good stories and compelling characters we have agenda driven stories, and political driven characters. And the sales reflect that.

If you want another example look at Star wars with last jedi and now Solo, another political and agenda driven franchise gone to shit.
Wow! You just can't seem to get ANYTHING correct these days. Sad!

I guess you must think that comic stores can pay rent with twitter likes instead of money.

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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2018, 01:36:40 PM »
It's almost as if Marvel and DC has a MYRIAD of issues dating back many years, many of which are tied to their physical format of a print medium and have little to do with actual content in any regard, and that the combination of many of these is why sales are low. Wow, it seems like anyone with two brain cells to rub together who is capable of looking at complete pictures would be able to understand that.

But no, no matter what Neo provides as his reasoning for not buying Marvel/DC books, if only all their characters were straight, white men, he would be buyin'!

The problem with the comics industry is the political saturation in the medium.

You are factually wrong there. But you know that.

And I know better than to engage with you at length because you are strictly here to troll and be a juvenile idiot. So keep playing with Neo and Xerxes and the folks that enjoy falling for your tired ass shtick. I'm out.
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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2018, 01:54:33 PM »
Lol. Too scared to have an actual debate or discussion. Typical sjw trash. I see you dodged my question about straight white men tho. I suppose that makes you racist, sexist, AND heterophobic.

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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2018, 02:57:22 PM »
It's almost as if Marvel and DC has a MYRIAD of issues dating back many years, many of which are tied to their physical format of a print medium and have little to do with actual content in any regard, and that the combination of many of these is why sales are low. Wow, it seems like anyone with two brain cells to rub together who is capable of looking at complete pictures would be able to understand that.

But no, no matter what Neo provides as his reasoning for not buying Marvel/DC books, if only all their characters were straight, white men, he would be buyin'!

The problem with the comics industry is the political saturation in the medium. Most comic fans don't want that. They want good stories and good characters and good art.

I never said anything about straight white men in this thread. Straight white men are not the only good characters in comicbooks. You seem to have quite a dislike for them tho. Why is that?

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But, comics have always had a political slant to them or a controversial slant when it's been necessary.  Batman had an excellent story regarding child trafficking, Caps and other early marvel comics were fucking propaganda tools and so were Dc heroes.  And despite you're not saying anything regarding "straight white men."  You're argument and their argument is against diversity and Sjw's everything that "straight white males" seem to  be intimidated by for no reason other than their scared of change.  Maybe, they're just scared to be seen as the closeted men they really are, while touting their religious values and demeaning others.  Because, that's what you're defending.  It all started with those same "straight white males" attacking women and the concept of diversity.  Then later their caught in some gay sex fiesta with their closes friend.  If you want to suck a dick stop fighting your personal desires and gobble on your best friends balls.  That's your and their's choice to pursue instead of staying trapped in a marriage or pretending that you really like women.
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Re: Comicsgate
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2018, 02:59:43 PM »
I'm trying to remember? What was the political message in Solo? We need better gun control because Han will always shoot first?

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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2018, 03:06:15 PM »
I'm trying to remember? What was the political message in Solo? We need better gun control because Han will always shoot first?

Probably, something else he imagined again.
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