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Death of Superman

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Re: Death of Superman
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2018, 07:24:54 PM »
True heroism is holding back because it's more convenient for his feelings than putting in effort. Inspiring!

Mindless grunt Stormtroopers trained to slaughter innocents for their corporate masters definitely wouldn't comprehend the concept of self restraint in order to prevent losing control , naturally.
Why do you throw a bunch of words together just to emphasize how objectively stupid and incompetent you are? We get it. You don't need to keep being this clownish character after 19 years.

Superman is not good at being a superhero. That's a fact.

He;s the embodiment of the superhero concept. Part of that concept is self restraint and control.

Self control and what Superman does are EXTREMELY different. He doesn't hold life in high regard at all. Everybody in the entire multiverse except Superman is expendable to Superman. Decades of comic works prove this conclusively. It's not up for debate. You aren't remotely qualified to even think about considering to argue against it, so don't try. You'll just embarrass yourself, repeatedly.

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Re: Death of Superman
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2018, 07:59:37 PM »
True heroism is holding back because it's more convenient for his feelings than putting in effort. Inspiring!

Mindless grunt Stormtroopers trained to slaughter innocents for their corporate masters definitely wouldn't comprehend the concept of self restraint in order to prevent losing control , naturally.
Why do you throw a bunch of words together just to emphasize how objectively stupid and incompetent you are? We get it. You don't need to keep being this clownish character after 19 years.

Superman is not good at being a superhero. That's a fact.

He;s the embodiment of the superhero concept. Part of that concept is self restraint and control. A MK Ultra military/campus frat rape culture advocate like yourself can't possibly comprehend that.


Funny sounds like you're actually talking about Hercules and Greek culture.  And supes is just one of the modern equivalents of a hero. 

Otherwise, previous heroes have ranged from drunken warriors and rapists, to pillaging and Vikings, even Egyptian mythos have varied heroes, much like say Indian or Native Americans. 

Even modern ideas of heroes have them as being flawed and conflicted.  Wolverine, punisher, Thor, Batman. 

The paragons being the likes of supes, and surfer or cap. 
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Re: Death of Superman
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2018, 08:33:55 PM »
True heroism is holding back because it's more convenient for his feelings than putting in effort. Inspiring!

Mindless grunt Stormtroopers trained to slaughter innocents for their corporate masters definitely wouldn't comprehend the concept of self restraint in order to prevent losing control , naturally.
Why do you throw a bunch of words together just to emphasize how objectively stupid and incompetent you are? We get it. You don't need to keep being this clownish character after 19 years.

Superman is not good at being a superhero. That's a fact.

He;s the embodiment of the superhero concept. Part of that concept is self restraint and control. A MK Ultra military/campus frat rape culture advocate like yourself can't possibly comprehend that.


Funny sounds like you're actually talking about Hercules and Greek culture.  And supes is just one of the modern equivalents of a hero. 

Otherwise, previous heroes have ranged from drunken warriors and rapists, to pillaging and Vikings, even Egyptian mythos have varied heroes, much like say Indian or Native Americans. 

Even modern ideas of heroes have them as being flawed and conflicted.  Wolverine, punisher, Thor, Batman. 

The paragons being the likes of supes, and surfer or cap. 

Uh, dude, you should know better.

Greeks derived the Concept of Heroism from Their teachers in Kemet( later devolved by the Greek barbarians into Egypt). Heru=Hero= the African spititual/moral ideal of human perfection on Earth par excellence.

Superman is the embodiment of the superhero, which is the modern american secular version of the Jewish immigrant+Western classical hero - Moses, Samson, Hercules Gilgamesh, Apollo, Michael the Archangel, King Arthur, Christ which are derived from the Heru, the ur-Hero concept. Jewish spitiruality culture is diluted Egyptian spirituality with Canaanite+Babylonian influences. also you have Hugo Danner, Doc Savage, Tarzan and John Carter.

The Ausarian Drama is the basis of the Heroes Journey postulated by Joseph Campbell and the Perennial Tradition noted by his mentor Jung, which is the root of all heroic literature as migrations out of Africa from  the outpost of Kemet influence ALL spiritual traditions. Heroic literature is originally a spiritual/shamanic initiation/alchemical allegory(chem=Khem).

You can map all of the above influeences on Superman directly to Heru's role in the Ausuarian Drama. Luke Skywalker, Neo, all of it are versions of Heru. Neo was originally supposed to be played by Will Smith which would have made the Matrix a more direct adaption of Heru instead of Keanu Reeves, which is why they took a more Christ+Buddha(both derived from Heru, literally--  one of Herutitles is 'KaRaest', and is name  means 'enlightened one', as in the trute title of what Westerners erroneous call the 'Egyptian Book of the Dead' which is  Per Am-Heru, or the Book of coming Forth by Day, or Book of Enlightenment) approach. Hancock was blatantly Heru as well.

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Re: Death of Superman
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2018, 11:19:18 PM »
There's an excellent breakdown of Superman as a messianic figure in the book "Mythology" by Alex Ross.

https://www.amazon.com/Mythology-Comics-Pantheon-Graphic-Novels/dp/0375714626