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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2018, 11:25:10 PM »
It still states an out of the norm boost in strength as the result of a maddened state.  Surfer has no such strength boost.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2018, 11:36:25 PM »
It still is not WM.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2018, 11:55:46 PM »
All indication is that it has the same effect as as true WM.  Odin only realizes it is not true WM because of its source.  Bios label it WM.


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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2018, 12:19:50 AM »
All indication is that it has the same effect as as true WM.  Odin only realizes it is not true WM because of its source.  Bios label it WM.


True WM boost him to unreal lvls. He was not unreal. Just wild.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2018, 12:26:14 AM »
All indication is that it has the same effect as as true WM.  Odin only realizes it is not true WM because of its source.  Bios label it WM.


True WM boost him to unreal lvls. He was not unreal. Just wild.

Yet he is stalemated by Hulk while in true WM.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2018, 12:54:00 AM »
This is like one person proving aspartame is real sugar.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2018, 01:39:35 AM »
Well, we know that Aspartame is 200 times sweeter than real sugar.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2018, 01:54:41 AM »
Again, it is like one poster arguing that aspartame is real sugar.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2018, 06:01:48 AM »
Srsly, its really 200x sweeter than sugar? ???

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2018, 08:06:07 AM »
Again, it is like one poster arguing that aspartame is real sugar.

No, it’s like one poster arguing that aspartame is not sweet because it’s not real sugar.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2018, 08:11:39 AM »
Srsly, its really 200x sweeter than sugar? ???

Yep.  Splenda is 600 times sweeter.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sweeter-than-sugar-03-08-2004/

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2018, 08:20:56 AM »
First, thanks fir actually responding.
Second, jeeesus christ.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2018, 09:37:18 AM »
Again, it is like one poster arguing that aspartame is real sugar.

No, it’s like one poster arguing that aspartame is not sweet because it’s not real sugar.

That's the dumbest analogy I've read here since the Baleman being equal to Cap. Kudos for nearly topping it.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2018, 10:07:23 AM »
If you're going down that route, you might as well abandon any pretense of knowing how Orion would perform against the Surfer, since you'd have no way to predict what sort of manifestation of Orion would show up on the day.

I went that route because we know for sure all of the New Gods got more powerful over time due their nature.  The Hunger suggest this happened far in the past. Orion fought the Infinity man, who would be at the shot out of Silver Surfer for an extended period and not even Superman dates enter the fight.

You already scuppered yourself with your manifestation argument. If Orion's power level fluctuates wildly from one appearance to another, then the manifestation the Surfer fought could potentially have been stronger than or equal to the one that defeated Superman.

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Re: Silver Surfer VS Orion
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2018, 10:19:26 AM »
I think what the Surfer meant there is that he was no longer going to pull his punches against Thor, as he'd presumably been doing up to that point. But there's a difference between taking off the kid gloves, and truly going all-out, especially when we're talking about the kind of all-out that's fueled by insanity. Thor's strength was fueled by his madness, and the Surfer had no such madness to draw on.

Any proof of this BS you are peddling? Surfer straight up said that he was done holding back.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111186194/4675372-thorvssilversurfer07.jpg

I don't think anyone's denied that the Surfer said he'd held back long enough. I just pointed out that there's a difference between that and being in a berserker rage. You're not going to start ignoring my actual points and grasping at strawmen now, are you? Because that's always a clear sign you're losing the argument.

Also Thor was only in an adrenaline rush the whole time, he wasn't "fueled by madness".

Beta Ray Bill said Thor drew strength from his madness in the same issue your scan came from. Did I really need to remind you of that?

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Silver-Surfer-1987/Issue-86?id=11807#19