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Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2018, 12:38:09 PM »
Ugh, that cover scan brings back awful memories of Liefeld and the Brett Booths & even Ian Churchill's of the world.

I still think Ramos got just as bad in his own way.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2018, 02:16:23 PM »
I still like Ramos but I get why people are now turned off by him. I find doing weird shit is easier to do with more cartoony styles. Liefeld and Malin both come off as sloppy realistic look.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2018, 06:22:04 PM »
Ramos hurts my eyes.  That is not an exaggeration.  Sometimes I have to just stare at panels to tell what’s going on, and my eyes start to hurt.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2018, 12:14:09 AM »
I havent seen his recent stuff, but he was great at Impulse, and his Crimson series, though i think the inking was too heavy on that.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2018, 01:28:19 AM »
I havent seen his recent stuff, but he was great at Impulse, and his Crimson series, though i think the inking was too heavy on that.

I have some of his early Impulse stuff.  It was fine.  He's one of those artists who got lost in their own styles.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2018, 01:36:44 AM »
That is a great way to phrase it.
John Byrne and Frank Miller did that, too imo.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2018, 01:45:51 AM »
That is a great way to phrase it.
John Byrne and Frank Miller did that, too imo.

Erik Larsen too, depending on the period.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2018, 04:09:48 AM »
Michael Turner as well, although I always loved his work.

I actually really like Ramos, too. Crimson was fantastic, and even though he went a little insane after that, I still really enjoy his work
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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2018, 06:22:23 AM »
I've seen what you mean on Turner, yeah.
Greg Land has put some stuff out there that just...doesnt look as good as it used to.

One who's gone the other way is Matt Wagner, imo.
You look at his first MAGE cycle compared to his current one, its like night and day, and you can see his progress.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2018, 01:18:56 PM »
Not sure if this is gonna be a popular opinion, but I kinda think Leinel Yu fits the bill for getting lost in one's style, as well.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2018, 04:03:40 PM »
I've seen what you mean on Turner, yeah.
Greg Land has put some stuff out there that just...doesnt look as good as it used to.

One who's gone the other way is Matt Wagner, imo.
You look at his first MAGE cycle compared to his current one, its like night and day, and you can see his progress.

Land isn't a good artist. All he does is trace porn.


Agreed on Wagner. I'd put Howard Porter in the same but but he gets extra props for coming back from an almost career ending injury.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2018, 04:36:18 PM »
Yeah, Howard Porter AND the DC editors who didn't abandon him after the injury deserve some serious respect.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2018, 06:48:19 PM »
Hadnt heard of that (Porter's an old favorite), what happened to him?

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2018, 07:39:22 PM »
in 06 he hurt his thumb taking out the nerve and part of his tendon making it impossible to draw. After that he was a bus driver for 2 years. During that time he learned how to draw again by holding his pencil in a completely different manner.

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Re: Is Jon Malin the worst mainstream comic artist since Liefeld?
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2018, 07:41:17 PM »
I never heard of that.  I'm glad he got back into things.