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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #180 on: February 09, 2018, 10:53:23 PM »
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After ignoring urging of FBI & DOJ not to release misleading Nunes memo because it omits material facts, @POTUS now expresses concerns over sharing precisely those facts with public and seeks to send it back to the same Majority that produced the flawed Nunes memo to begin with: https://t.co/qNVyS99eXs


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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #181 on: February 12, 2018, 12:11:04 PM »
A not so clever attempt by the Deep State to try to cover up their illegal surveillance. By having classified info in their memo, not to mention it prolly being misleading, the memo not being released makes Trump look biased.

But I don't expect any of you sheep to recognize that.
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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #182 on: February 12, 2018, 03:41:04 PM »
How can a memo about the Steele dossier have classified information in it if its completely untrue?

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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #183 on: February 12, 2018, 04:34:50 PM »
It may expose Trump Heroic mention of shooting down all those Hillary planes


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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #184 on: February 12, 2018, 05:03:59 PM »
It may expose Trump Heroic mention of shooting down all those Hillary planes

Prolly Hillary eliminating witnesses fyi
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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #185 on: February 12, 2018, 05:08:03 PM »
How can a memo about the Steele dossier have classified information in it if its completely untrue?

Maybe it has actual intelligence sources and/or is full of lies. Either way, Trump ain't having it.
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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #186 on: February 12, 2018, 05:13:27 PM »
1: If they have actual intelligence sources then the information would either be credible or if not then the sources are not worth protecting.
2: There isn't any reason to hide straight lies. Better to put them out there and explain why the information is false. I mean that was the point of the Nunes's memo wasn't it?
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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #187 on: February 24, 2018, 09:54:41 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/24/588563076/memo-by-house-intelligence-committee-democrats-released-as-nunes-addresses-cpac

The Dem report has been released.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4387026-Unclassified-Schiff-Memo.html

Here is a pretty accurate summary of the report from the reddit megathread.

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Steele Dossier played NO role in opening the Carter Page investigation. They began their investigation prior to even receiving it.

The DOJ did in fact inform the court of the origin of the Steele Dossier.

They accuse Nunes of deliberately misrepresenting the underlying FISA Warrant intelligence.

Four different judge's approved FISA warrants including judge's appointed by Bush and Reagan. Multiple DOJ officials also approved the applications prior to the court even seeing them including Trump appointees Rosenstein and Boente.

They actually started listening to Page after he left Trump campaign so the idea they were watching him to spy on Trump is absurd.

Page has a long history with Russia going back to 2004 and was being actively investigated once before already in 2013. The FBI had even interviewed him in 2016 again prior to receiving the Steele Dossier. The Steele dossier was referenced in the application as corroboration of certain things, and not to independently demonstrate.

A bunch of blacked out additional evidence with a bit in the middle noting Page lied to the HIC in his testimony in 2017 about meeting with Russian officials.

It included the footnote that discusses the Steele dossier source which SPECIFICALLY STATES ..."The FBI speculates the the unidentified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign." Candidate 1 is Trump I believe, edit I previously thought Person 1 was Steele, this is the person coordinating with Steele. Steele is Source #1.

DOJ timely informed the court when the FBI fired Steele and why.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7zzwif/megathread_democrats_release_redacted_memo/

More articles in the reddit link.

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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #188 on: February 25, 2018, 11:07:16 AM »

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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #189 on: February 25, 2018, 05:18:10 PM »
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/25/koch-brothers-trump-administration/

And now the Koch Bros.
It's absolutely hilarious the way conspiracy theorists freak out and blame completely unrelated things on George Soros, but collectively suck the dicks of the Koch brothers at every turn.

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« Reply #190 on: February 26, 2018, 12:14:19 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/24/588563076/memo-by-house-intelligence-committee-democrats-released-as-nunes-addresses-cpac

The Dem report has been released.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4387026-Unclassified-Schiff-Memo.html

Here is a pretty accurate summary of the report from the reddit megathread.

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Steele Dossier played NO role in opening the Carter Page investigation. They began their investigation prior to even receiving it.

The DOJ did in fact inform the court of the origin of the Steele Dossier.

They accuse Nunes of deliberately misrepresenting the underlying FISA Warrant intelligence.

Four different judge's approved FISA warrants including judge's appointed by Bush and Reagan. Multiple DOJ officials also approved the applications prior to the court even seeing them including Trump appointees Rosenstein and Boente.

They actually started listening to Page after he left Trump campaign so the idea they were watching him to spy on Trump is absurd.

Page has a long history with Russia going back to 2004 and was being actively investigated once before already in 2013. The FBI had even interviewed him in 2016 again prior to receiving the Steele Dossier. The Steele dossier was referenced in the application as corroboration of certain things, and not to independently demonstrate.

A bunch of blacked out additional evidence with a bit in the middle noting Page lied to the HIC in his testimony in 2017 about meeting with Russian officials.

It included the footnote that discusses the Steele dossier source which SPECIFICALLY STATES ..."The FBI speculates the the unidentified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign." Candidate 1 is Trump I believe, edit I previously thought Person 1 was Steele, this is the person coordinating with Steele. Steele is Source #1.

DOJ timely informed the court when the FBI fired Steele and why.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7zzwif/megathread_democrats_release_redacted_memo/

More articles in the reddit link.

So, couple things here.

Mueller testified that the fisa warrants would not have been approved without the Steele dossier. The Democrat memo disputes this. Who's lying?

The Steele dossier was used to corroborate certain things, but the Steele dossier hasn't been corroborated or verified yet, so some circular logic here.
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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #191 on: February 26, 2018, 01:54:13 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/24/588563076/memo-by-house-intelligence-committee-democrats-released-as-nunes-addresses-cpac

The Dem report has been released.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4387026-Unclassified-Schiff-Memo.html

Here is a pretty accurate summary of the report from the reddit megathread.

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Steele Dossier played NO role in opening the Carter Page investigation. They began their investigation prior to even receiving it.

The DOJ did in fact inform the court of the origin of the Steele Dossier.

They accuse Nunes of deliberately misrepresenting the underlying FISA Warrant intelligence.

Four different judge's approved FISA warrants including judge's appointed by Bush and Reagan. Multiple DOJ officials also approved the applications prior to the court even seeing them including Trump appointees Rosenstein and Boente.

They actually started listening to Page after he left Trump campaign so the idea they were watching him to spy on Trump is absurd.

Page has a long history with Russia going back to 2004 and was being actively investigated once before already in 2013. The FBI had even interviewed him in 2016 again prior to receiving the Steele Dossier. The Steele dossier was referenced in the application as corroboration of certain things, and not to independently demonstrate.

A bunch of blacked out additional evidence with a bit in the middle noting Page lied to the HIC in his testimony in 2017 about meeting with Russian officials.

It included the footnote that discusses the Steele dossier source which SPECIFICALLY STATES ..."The FBI speculates the the unidentified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign." Candidate 1 is Trump I believe, edit I previously thought Person 1 was Steele, this is the person coordinating with Steele. Steele is Source #1.

DOJ timely informed the court when the FBI fired Steele and why.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7zzwif/megathread_democrats_release_redacted_memo/

More articles in the reddit link.

So, couple things here.

Mueller testified that the fisa warrants would not have been approved without the Steele dossier. The Democrat memo disputes this. Who's lying?

The Steele dossier was used to corroborate certain things, but the Steele dossier hasn't been corroborated or verified yet, so some circular logic here.
When and where did Mueller say that?

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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #192 on: February 26, 2018, 05:07:06 PM »
It was McCabe who testified, Mueller's Sr. Not Mueller himself. My mistake. Tho the question still stands. Who's lying?
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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #193 on: February 26, 2018, 05:41:34 PM »
It was McCabe who testified, Mueller's Sr. Not Mueller himself. My mistake. Tho the question still stands. Who's lying?
What is your source for that? The Nunes memo?

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Re: Democrats are done! #fisagate
« Reply #194 on: February 26, 2018, 05:43:28 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/25/democrat-on-intelligence-panel-disputes-importance-steele-dossier.html

According to Rep Jim Himes, who was there for the testimony, said McCabe said never said that but they can't really get into the details of the actual testimony because its classified.