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Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel

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Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« on: November 13, 2017, 12:43:42 AM »
Who wins this?

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 01:29:41 AM »
Good match up.  Reed should be able to reach Warren without worrying about getting cut, but then Warren can move pretty fast and is, IMO, an underrated fighter.  I'm wondering if Warren can generate enough force to KO Reed.

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 10:40:22 AM »
Reed probably takes it but Archangel makes it a good fight

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 01:44:29 PM »
Classic Worthington Archangel? If he could cut Reed with one of his darts the toxin might help quite a bit, right?

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 06:55:47 PM »
Mighty big IF

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 07:33:34 PM »
I don't see the flechettes breaking Reed's skin. Reed takes this all day long, for me. Maybe not quickly, but it's hard to see him ever actually losing this.


« Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 09:46:32 AM by The Shuruku Demon »

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 07:57:08 PM »
What’s his track record against blades?

A scan of bullet bouncing doesn’t have me convinced

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 07:59:56 PM »
I think Wolverine has rebounded like that too when he'd leapt at him claws extended

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 08:00:13 PM »


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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 08:02:35 PM »
That’s pretty damn convincing

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 08:06:06 PM »
MTL beat me to it, but I'll post both scans anyway.






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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 08:07:05 PM »
I was also about to mention that New vs Old F scene where Wolverine had trouble cutting him.  I think he might've failed in FF vs X-Men as well?

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 09:18:48 PM »
I was also about to mention that New vs Old F scene where Wolverine had trouble cutting him.  I think he might've failed in FF vs X-Men as well?

His claws never actually made contact in that story. Claremont appeared to think the claws could cut Reed though. Franklin said they could, Reed made an effort to avoid them or hold Logan's wrists back, and the cover showed Logan standing over a seemingly dead Reed with a hole torn through his mid section.

Mind you, Logan was able to bruise Reed's face with some kicks in that story, which is Reed's lowest durability showing that I can think of.



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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2017, 09:42:31 PM »
Not that I favor of him here, but III can give Reed similar trouble to the type Northstar gave him. That is to say cutting isn’t his only option

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Re: Mr. Fantastic VS Arch Angel
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2017, 10:12:30 PM »
I doubt Archangel is capable of replicating what Northstar did; he can't propel himself with the same speed or force.

Also, what Northstar did was likely only possible due to Reed's mind being addled by outside control, as Northstar's dialogue intimates. A clear-thinking Reed likely would've let go of whatever he was holding onto, and allowed himself to be carried into the air, preventing any overstretch from occurring.