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Rape culture is a a real thing or BS
« on: November 02, 2017, 08:18:21 PM »
Always thought it was an exageatrion

But with then all these rape scandals come up. Stuff involving buisness, the news and hollywood.  With a lot of people covering it up. Then add in our pussy grabbing president and people respond that you should  "Suck it up" it makes me think it not THAT much of exagerration


Then again these people in position of great power. Not your regular tom dick or harry.  So the power may be the key. Makes you wonder about Humaity though. How many people would become monsters if youg ave them power

One thing that goes against the idea of rape culture is it not just women being raped. Little kids to.  So basicly everyone with limited power. Although seem to be mostly guys doing it.  Not like Ron howard had to get bent over and pegged by Kathleen Kenndy

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Re: Rape culture is a a real thing or BS
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 08:53:59 PM »
Rape culture implies that rape is an acceptable practice. It isn't.


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Re: Rape culture is a a real thing or BS
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 08:57:02 PM »
Rape culture implies that rape is an acceptable practice. It isn't.

Well it does seem to be areas that happily turn a blind eyes and accept it.

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Re: Rape culture is a a real thing or BS
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 09:12:16 PM »
Power abuse is a real thing. Tribalism is a real thing. Men being corrupted by power, and a substantial number of other men closing ranks either because of fear of the power of men above them, or paranoia that giving justice to women is a danger to their own freedom, or just plain because men are their tribe is a real thing. Whether this strictly results in a widespread "rape culture" is a bit iffier.

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Re: Rape culture is a a real thing or BS
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 09:17:01 PM »
Rape culture implies that rape is an acceptable practice. It isn't.

Well it does seem to be areas that happily turn a blind eyes and accept it.

I was referred to overall society. You could certainly make an argument that Hollywood has a rape culture.


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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2017, 10:42:38 PM »
Rape culture implies that rape is an acceptable practice. It isn't.

Well it does seem to be areas that happily turn a blind eyes and accept it.

I was referred to overall society. You could certainly make an argument that Hollywood has a rape culture.

Right.

In some circles, people turn a blind eye to certain things but that doesn't mean it's in their culture.  In fact, since they try to ignore and deny it, it shows it isn't an acceptable act.  Turning a blind eye to rape is, sadly, no different than turning a blind eye to corruption or domestic abuse.  sometimes people don't want to confront what's going on in their neighborhood or the darker side of people they admire.

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Re: Rape culture is a a real thing or BS
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2017, 11:18:09 PM »
Rape culture implies that rape is an acceptable practice. It isn't.

Well it does seem to be areas that happily turn a blind eyes and accept it.

I was referred to overall society. You could certainly make an argument that Hollywood has a rape culture.

Right.

In some circles, people turn a blind eye to certain things but that doesn't mean it's in their culture.  In fact, since they try to ignore and deny it, it shows it isn't an acceptable act.  Turning a blind eye to rape is, sadly, no different than turning a blind eye to corruption or domestic abuse.  sometimes people don't want to confront what's going on in their neighborhood or the darker side of people they admire.

Well if enough people turn a blind eye to it, then it kind of is part of the culture reather they admit to it or not. Namely when it stuff in place that further allowd that

The church had a culture of silence that allowed some sexual predators for years.   Those sexual predators couldnt continue if they didnt cover up and protect them


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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2017, 11:46:55 PM »
Well if enough people turn a blind eye to it, then it kind of is part of the culture reather they admit to it or not. Namely when it stuff in place that further allowd that

That's not what culture is.

Also, the vast majority of the Western world doesn't turn a blind eye to rape and it's considered a horrible act by just about everyone.  I showed an example of certain people who would turn a blind eye within their own group.  And again, those same people would just as likely turn a blind eye to an act of corruption within their circle, such as if an important member of their town was guilty of embezzlement.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2017, 11:52:31 PM »
Well if enough people turn a blind eye to it, then it kind of is part of the culture reather they admit to it or not. Namely when it stuff in place that further allowd that

That's not what culture is.

Also, the vast majority of the Western world doesn't turn a blind eye to rape and it's considered a horrible act by just about everyone.  I showed an example of certain people who would turn a blind eye within their own group.  And again, those same people would just as likely turn a blind eye to an act of corruption within their circle, such as if an important member of their town was guilty of embezzlement.

but certain rules and infranstructure of different cultues can make the more open to some things then others.

Like area where women have less power, make it easier to take advantage of them because they cant fight back as well, wont be listen to

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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2017, 12:52:28 AM »
Rape culture implies that rape is an acceptable practice. It isn't.

That maybe true.  But, think of it as say the black market where you can get drugs, guns, hire people to murder people.  And say things like Catholics and their cover up and support of rape of children. They deal in the flesh of children as well as any other rapists does the in the flesh of others.  We have the cases of say Roethelisberger who was allowed to buy his way out his allegations. The college students that got slaps on the wrists for their rapes, another good cover up is the Steubenville case.  One of the teens involved his mother was an attorney who essentially obstructed to protect her son.  I don't recall what happened in that specific instance though.  But, a lot of towns folk were part of the attempt to cover it up.  Till, Anon hacked the truth.  So, though it may not be accepted.  There is an underlying aspect that people deny and cover up for those who have raped others. 


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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2017, 12:53:35 AM »
but certain rules and infranstructure of different cultues can make the more open to some things then others.

What are the rules regarding rape in the US?

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Like area where women have less power, make it easier to take advantage of them because they cant fight back as well, wont be listen to

How do women have less power in the US?

When are they not allowed to fight back in the US?

When have you seen rape victims not being listened to in the US?

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2017, 12:55:41 AM »
Rape culture implies that rape is an acceptable practice. It isn't.

That maybe true.  But, think of it as say the black market where you can get drugs, guns, hire people to murder people.  And say things like Catholics and their cover up and support of rape of children. They deal in the flesh of children as well as any other rapists does the in the flesh of others.

What does the black market have to do with culture?

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We have the cases of say Roethelisberger who was allowed to buy his way out his allegations. The college students that got slaps on the wrists for their rapes, another good cover up is the Steubenville case.  One of the teens involved his mother was an attorney who essentially obstructed to protect her son.  I don't recall what happened in that specific instance though.  But, a lot of towns folk were part of the attempt to cover it up.  Till, Anon hacked the truth.  So, though it may not be accepted.  There is an underlying aspect that people deny and cover up for those who have raped others.

That doesn't mean it's a part of the culture.  That just means people tried to cover up a crime and it was exposed.

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2017, 01:27:57 AM »
Rape culture implies that rape is an acceptable practice. It isn't.

That maybe true.  But, think of it as say the black market where you can get drugs, guns, hire people to murder people.  And say things like Catholics and their cover up and support of rape of children. They deal in the flesh of children as well as any other rapists does the in the flesh of others.

What does the black market have to do with culture?

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We have the cases of say Roethelisberger who was allowed to buy his way out his allegations. The college students that got slaps on the wrists for their rapes, another good cover up is the Steubenville case.  One of the teens involved his mother was an attorney who essentially obstructed to protect her son.  I don't recall what happened in that specific instance though.  But, a lot of towns folk were part of the attempt to cover it up.  Till, Anon hacked the truth.  So, though it may not be accepted.  There is an underlying aspect that people deny and cover up for those who have raped others.

That doesn't mean it's a part of the culture.  That just means people tried to cover up a crime and it was exposed.


Contrast and comparison of something that isn't accepted.  But, does thrive exist and thrive in our society.


And that could be a component of that culture.  They know it's unacceptable.  But, they do nothing to rectify it or turn the person in. So, supporting the act and protecting the person that's done it.  And much like the black market.  Which, isn't acceptable giving it a place to thrive by for the most part not doing shit about it.  Homosexuality wasn't acceptable.  But, we've had a hidden homosexual culture within the normal cultural society and its is accepted.  You have nuts of nambla who are trying to normalize man boy love. And make it an acceptable norm. You can call it a sub-culture if you like.  We already know that rape has been around a long time in human history.  And the excuses used to justify it as well.  Hell, even the so called nurturing women are getting caught more often.
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Re: Rape culture is a a real thing or BS
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2017, 01:39:50 AM »
There is no "culture" of rape (at least in the US). "Rape culture" is the label that the buzzfeed generation has given to a pervasive culture of misogyny in the US where heinous acts like rape and various other sexual assaults, degradation, and overall mistreatment of women have become so unfortunately commonplace.

Calling this environment "rape culture" is focusing on a symptom rather than the sickness
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Re: Rape culture is a a real thing or BS
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2017, 01:44:27 AM »
That said, a "RAPE CULTURE" headline will always draw more clicks than a "CULTURE OF PERVASIVE MISOGYNY" headline, so I get it. It at least draws attention to part of the problem, rather than just ignoring it like this country had done for so long. So do you, boo boo
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