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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2017, 02:35:41 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trumps-richest-friends-are-asking-about-changes-to-gop-tax-bill-and-hes-listening/2017/12/07/49d70e1a-db65-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html

Thank god. I'd hate for there to be some rich people who don't get what they want for Christmas.


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363891-collins-considers-changing-vote-on-tax-bill-over-amendments

Oh it's too late for that.

The Arizona duo (McCain, Flake) could have prevented this. Neither is ever going to be a Senator beyond their current reigns. Yet they talked big and then sided with Trump and the oligarchy anyway.
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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2017, 08:51:54 AM »
Because John McCain's wife is rich. I mean, seriously, that's it.

Jeff Flake is a bitch.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/364026-man-with-als-confronts-flake-on-plane-over-tax-bill-vote?__twitter_impression=true

If you think that will change his mind or the GOP going back on Collin's ammendments and they change their vote. You out of your mind.

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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2017, 04:26:24 PM »
Well it seem the one republican hold on is voting for this. Corker

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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2017, 03:21:18 AM »
Yeah. No kidding. He's an asshole. Seriously, I know from all the lies he's done for my state.

And if everyone is wondering. Yeah, if you're rich--you just got a hell of a lot richer. A corporation--well, you have more money than you will ever do anything with. Like invest.

The middle class gets slammed, but if you live on the east or west coast--damn do you get it.

Sucks being a doctor or teacher.



http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/15/news/economy/gop-tax-plan-details/index.html



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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2017, 03:20:22 AM »
Remember Bob Corker. He hasn't read the bill he said he'd never vote for if it increased the deficet...

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/365284-corker-says-he-hasnt-read-tax-bill-after-saying-hed-vote-for-it-ib-times

But we all know why he loves it now. :)

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/365287-last-minute-provision-in-gop-tax-bill-would-benefit-trump-corker-ibtimes

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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2017, 02:07:53 PM »
It's really hard to listen to these faggots like adult Eddie Munster Paul Ryan lie blatantly in the face of reality.

Worse yet is all the braindead #MAGAots buy into it.

DIGUSTING

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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2017, 04:47:31 PM »
The next step in their brilliant plan: "Oh no, the deficit is so yuge! We need to cut entitlements and welfare! They didn't bother finding work with all those awesome tax cuts we gave them, so now we'll snip their SNAP. It's sure to get the economy going, and everyone will be better off for it!"


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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2017, 07:43:41 PM »
The next step in their brilliant plan: "Oh no, the deficit is so yuge! We need to cut entitlements and welfare! They didn't bother finding work with all those awesome tax cuts we gave them, so now we'll snip their SNAP. It's sure to get the economy going, and everyone will be better off for it!"



Applauded

As I said elsewhere :

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It's an endless con game by the GOP. Huge giveaways to the wealthy and corporations that fail to deliver the promises. Followed by denial they failed by Republicans. Followed by huge defense increases. Followed by another giveaway to their corporate donors. Followed by "We have to address debt by cutting SS, Medicare, Health Care, Infrastructure, Education, etc.

The modern GOP's goal is a nation of poor, sick, ignorant sheep that will vote for their rulers."
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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2017, 08:56:06 PM »
Here why they will always get away with this

Big Taxes cuts to the rich. That hurt the poor in the wrong one. People hate the poor even if they are the poor. Because most people like to think they arent poor...or just going to be rich sooner or later. And dont want their imaginary weatlh taxes

The taxes need to be paid for. So they cut programs. Because they cut them. These programs become slowly shitty over times.  Thus making people think these goverment programs cut


So when it times to FIX things....they take away some of the tax cuts..NEVER all of them. So dems in office...trying to make up the money that was lost. They never go full hog..like the republicans. That just lower it somewhat out of a need to comromise


Republcains get in office again....and they go buck wild...and the pattern repeats


Now the republcians never gone this level of insane. But it may still end up being popular. Because a lot of people will get some money tossed at them in the middle class temporarly. In 10 years they be fucked...but they see it as 10 years them promblem...and by that time a dem would be in office and thus take the blame. Also people generaly hate taxes. Very rarely has anyone lost because the lower taxes...even if on the rich.

if a progressive get in office to get taxes at what they should be. Not only will they have sale raising the taxes up to where they are after this, but then they got to raise the tax rate to where it always should have been. Which would be sold as a double tax raise by the republicans


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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2017, 08:59:03 PM »
also the tax cuts for the middle class runs out after a couple of years
Lot of the taxes for the rich..permanent

That should show most people what their priorites are

They doing it...because when the middle class tax cuts runs out..what little they get. In order for the middle class not to get thier taxe raised, they will add more tax cuts for a rich. And then say people against it are anti middle class tax cuts

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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2017, 01:41:28 PM »
I don't understand how the Dem aren't jumping all over this the way the GOP did with the ACA or Obama Care as they liked to call it.  They need to come up with a catchy name and constantly remind everyone who's behind it.

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Re: Trump and GOP Tax Plan
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2017, 01:47:41 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2017, 03:36:56 PM »
Not really. Though it is significantly weakened.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-falsely-claims-tax-174320774.html

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President Donald Trump on Wednesday heralded Republicans’ tax bill for its provision repealing the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate by incorrectly asserting that the health care law as a whole had been repealed.

“When the individual mandate is being repealed, that means Obamacare is being repealed,” Trump said at a Cabinet meeting that seemed to double as his airing of grievances before the holidays. “We have essentially repealed Obamacare, and we will come up with something much better.”

This is demonstrably false. The law still remains, after Republicans’ failed efforts to repeal it earlier this year. Republicans have devised ways to fundamentally weaken Obamacare’s provisions because they have not yet figured out how to repeal it outright, as HuffPost’s Jonathan Cohn reported.

This sums it up pretty well imo :

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/19/obamacare-repeal-tax-bill-trump-243912

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Obamacare survived the first year of President Donald Trump, but it’s badly damaged.

The sweeping Republican tax bill on the verge of final passage would repeal the individual mandate in 2019, potentially taking millions of people out of the health insurance market. On top of that, the Trump administration has killed some subsidies, halved the insurance enrollment period, gutted the Obamacare marketing campaign, and rolled out a regulatory red carpet for skimpy new health plans that will change the insurance landscape in ways that are harmful to former President Barack Obama’s signature health care law.

None of these individually represent a death blow. But in aggregate, the past year adds up to a slow, stealthy erosion of the law.

“They obviously couldn't kill it, so they're trying to starve it slowly," said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.), who sits on the House Ways and Means Committee, which helped write the original law.
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