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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2017, 08:54:35 PM »
Maybe you should research this subject more so you don't sound so ignorant next time it comes up?

I will leave the tranny research to you ........ common sense tells me that a man cannot be a woman ...... no matter how much he wishes.

Willful ignorance it is then.

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2017, 09:04:07 PM »
yeah get them out of the military i dont want them gettin killed in some stupid war with russia or china

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2017, 08:44:26 AM »
So...it's a draft dodging coward telling brave people they can't serve their country. :)

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2017, 03:10:39 PM »
Let's say I agree with you. How does that prevent them from doing the job of a military service person. If someone with Asperger's can do the job as long as they prove competent at it then why shouldnt someone who is transgender?

Because someone who has Transgendia cannot separate fantasy from reality ........ they live in a world where up is down and boy is girl.

Would you want someone with alzheimers or dementia working in the military?

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2017, 03:20:55 PM »
Can you give me an example of how where someone's gender identity effect their ability to perform their military duties?

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2017, 04:03:23 PM »
Can you give me an example of how where someone's gender identity effect their ability to perform their military duties?

No more than you could assure me that it would not.

Its all opinion.

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2017, 04:07:55 PM »
Can you give me an example of how where someone's gender identity effect their ability to perform their military duties?

No more than you could assure me that it would not.

Its all opinion.
Who's burden of proof on here?
That seems to flip flop thread to thread.





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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2017, 04:21:57 PM »
The burden of proof would be on those claiming there's a danger, since transgenders have and are serving, yet there's been no real issues. Otherwise it's asking to prove a negative.

As stated, even the Pentagon doesn't see a real problem to be addressed. So where is regar getting his opinion from?

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2017, 04:23:38 PM »
Well the only claim I've made so far is that mental illness/disorders isn't an automatic disqualification for serving and gave examples.

Regar has claimed that

Transgender people is a mental disorder
Transgender people can't separate reality from fantasy
Transgender people aren't mentally capable of functioning in the military

He has not provided any examples to back his claims.

If needed I can provide evidence to support my examples and also examples of Transgender people who are active in the military and have shown to perform their jobs without an issue.

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2017, 04:42:47 PM »
Both the Army and Marine Corps have asked for a one to two year delay in accepting new transgendered troops, so I'm not sure Trump has come up with this policy on his own.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/08/services-facing-july-1-deadline-ask-more-time-develop-transgender-policy/102645928/



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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2017, 01:06:22 AM »
The burden of proof would be on those claiming there's a danger, since transgenders have and are serving, yet there's been no real issues. Otherwise it's asking to prove a negative.

As stated, even the Pentagon doesn't see a real problem to be addressed. So where is regar getting his opinion from?
Thank you.
I thought there was something hinky here.





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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2017, 10:48:01 AM »
When I was under military service there were some gay guys,I never did meet transgender people.
I dont think the problem is how good they be in their but how much comrades can accept them.

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2017, 06:24:02 PM »
When I was under military service there were some gay guys,I never did meet transgender people.
I dont think the problem is how good they be in their but how much comrades can accept them.
Same here, and yeah, its not them that'd be the problem.





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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2017, 06:44:36 PM »
and consider that from any other perspective. Imagine a Japanese dude being told he can't have a job and the problem being some people he will work with don't like the Japanese and not his ability to do the job.

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Re: no more trangenders in the military
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2017, 02:38:07 AM »
Transgenders have all the luck