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Finally saw Last Man Standing

Finally saw Last Man Standing
« on: July 01, 2017, 07:44:47 AM »
And my thoughts: It's a less funny Reba without nearly any likeable characters.

Let me some it up the characters.

Tim Allen: Some supposed conservative tough guy who is a total jackass to everyone around him. And he's nearly always right and Obama is always wrong and Obama is bad and (insert Obama joke) at any point is funny and great and you should love Tim Allen.

Nancy Travis: She's kind of like a weak willed Peggy Hill. Tries to mediate between Tim and others but Tim doesn't need her because Tim is always right in the end so it's pointless for her to even bother.  Seriously how is Nancy Travis being wasted on this show!?

Kristin: See the older Reba daughter only she got knocked up by an annoying liberal guy because all liberal are like this and Tim Allen is always right because he is not liberal. Oh and don't give her too much of a personality or anything.

Eve: See the annoying character in sitcoms who is snarky and a total bitch to everyone and never gets called out on it. Actually Tim Allen encourages her to be a prick to everyone; especially anyone with different views then their own because that means they are liberal and they are wrong. She might actually be the character I like the least. She wants to got to West Point and does everything perfect. I don't know if she does, but I hope she does, goes to the Army and is is then shot by her own troop for being a prick once to often.

Mandy: I'll be damned. An actual character I like! Dumb, superficial, but she's actually likeable and funny. And has actual character growth. I think she might be the only one in the show who actually has development! That and she doesn't purposely go out of her way to insult anyone or anything unlike the rest of her family.

Kyle: Employee at an Outdoors Store Tim "Super Manly" Allen markets/runs...eh I don't know. Hell I didn't know the damn show was set in Denver until someone mentioned it one episode! Seriously I thought it was Texas until one episode had snow! Dumb as hell and got dumber an episode but hey him and Mandy are nice and had great moments.

Ed: Idiot. And what the hell is Hector Elizondo doing on this show! You've done great movies! You were on Monk! You are better than this. He should not be described as just "idiot!"

Ryan: What is Tim Allen without a super annoying Liberal who is always wrong. That's Ryan! I mean, imaginary gun fights at a kid's birthday's party are the worst thing in American History and ruin sentient life. He knocked up Older boring girl and had an annoying kid. Apparently he ran out on them (?) (never saw the early season episodes) and wanted her to have an abortion. Which I have to say would have been for the best because...

Boyd: Annoying little brat who needs a good swat across his ass.

Bud: The grandfather. He annoys Tim Allen every time he shows up. I like Bud.


Stories...um, ...Tim Allen hates Obama and Vanessa is....there and...West Point...Conservatism is best and...hell with it Mandy quit college, got a boyfriend, started her own designer clothes business. Mandy is the only character I liked on this show. She was the only one who did anything on this show!!

Okay, fine I can get that this show is just for more conservative people, but it should at least be funny and have more than one or two likeable characters! It's pretty much some issue, liberalism is wrong, Tim Allen is manly, Ryan sucks and Obama sucks even worse than Ryan. Rinse and repeat. Seriously, I love King of the Hill, I think it's better than the Simpsons and I actually liked Reba because, say what you will, but the characters--save for the middle child--were fun characters and they were likeable.
Only Mandy and Kyle are characters I liked to watch.


This show knew what its viewership was and it gave them what they wanted. And I guess it worked as it lasted six years on Friday so credit to you whoever worked on it.

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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 10:45:09 AM »
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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2017, 10:28:51 AM »
Good lord there was so much wrong with that OP.
Really fun rant though!





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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2017, 10:44:28 AM »
   A couple of members of my family like this so I sit thru it once in a while.  I've been told that Tim Allen's stand up comedy (mainly at casinos and red state State Fairs) has become pretty much this style.
   If that's his personal political humor or even just playing to that demographic "more power" to him. I just think it's hypocritical of him to bitch about stupid liberal colleges wasting tax dollars & weak prison sentences when he was a philosophy major who wrote two best sellers on the subject and payed for his student loan by selling cocaine for which he did prison time.
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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2017, 10:54:57 AM »
   A couple of members of my family like this so I sit thru it once in a while.  I've been told that Tim Allen's stand up comedy (mainly at casinos and red state State Fairs) has become pretty much this style.
   If that's his personal political humor or even just playing to that demographic "more power" to him. I just think it's hypocritical of him to bitch about stupid liberal colleges wasting tax dollars & weak prison sentences when he was a philosophy major who wrote two best sellers on the subject and payed for his student loan by selling cocaine for which he did prison time.
Valid points.

I'm just going by the character(s) on the show, not Allen personally, and really dont think he's as bad as PTF made him out to be.
The fact that Ryan is still alive after nocking up his kid, disappearing on her, then coming back years later, and constantly dictating terms in HIS house, speaks to his strength of character.
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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2017, 09:14:29 PM »
So not murdering worthless assholes makes you a strong person? Fucking hell, I must be Samson.

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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 12:27:44 AM »
must be!





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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2017, 06:06:50 AM »
So this entire thread speaks volumes on folks that need to experience far more than their immediate evironment.

Never should you ever be so involved with something so trivial. Each and every human being has the ability to contirbute to humanity so much more.

That comparison though? I love all y'all but that shit is strictly on some Ares level of overanalyzing some fictional nonsense.

Like, swear to god.

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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2017, 06:51:03 AM »
You're overthinking it. ;D





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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2017, 03:10:39 AM »
Okay, updating my views on this show. Because when I watched this was when my aunt was in a nursing home recovering from a fall and Salmonella. And I only saw seasons two, three and some of four.

Well, I've been going to her home to help with her rehab because I'm a nice guy and the rest of my family are useless sacks of waste. Anyway, because of that I've been able to see more of the episodes and saw season one on her DVR.

It's actually really freaking good. I mean, damn, it's like what I wanted the episodes I first saw the show to be.

Mike is actually likeable, Vanessa does stuff and is actually funny, Kristen...WTF did they get rid of this girl for the other horrible one? She looks like a teenage mom (yeah, she's probably like thirty, but the other one looked forty!), a better actress, and was really fun. I didn't hate Eve. Eve was okay. I mean, she didn't stick out, but she was a pain in the ass like she becomes like everyone else. Mandy's more shallow than what I first saw, but an innocent one.

So Kyle was dating Kristin. Huh.


Also, you didn't have Ryan, who I can't stand. Boyd was a baby so he couldn't annoy the hell out of me. And there were no cheap jokes like Mike just hating on Obama or Hillary at random for no reason because "hyuk hyuk them's liberals bad!"

I don't know who's responsible, but someone really f**ed this show up with the changes they made after season two.

Seriously, I can see why people watched this show going by season one. I just don't get why anyone stuck around after season two. :)

So let me sum it up.

Season 1: Great.

Season 2 and 3: Crap.

Season four: Somewhere in between.

Season five: ?


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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2017, 07:04:46 AM »
Well the show wasnt renewed for this upcoming tv season, so that sucks ass.





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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2017, 10:27:53 AM »
Thought it got saved

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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2017, 03:20:22 PM »
I'm not usually a big Bruce Willis fan, but I really liked this movie.
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Re: Finally saw Last Man Standing
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2017, 04:03:20 PM »
I'm not usually a big Bruce Willis fan, but I really liked this movie.
Yeah. It was basically Willis as Eastwood, and gangsters as Mexicans.





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