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Re: The Bret Hart Categories thread!
« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2017, 11:23:24 PM »
Yeah, I'd say Shelton Benjamin is probably the closest. Dolph was the first one who came to my mind, though he's definitely no 9 in skill
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Re: The Bret Hart Categories thread!
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2017, 09:31:14 AM »
I wouldn't put Shelton, Seth, or Dolph ANYWHERE NEAR a 9 in Look. And I'd give each of them higher Charisma than Look.

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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2017, 02:44:27 PM »
Ahem........

Then you must really hate Shelton's look because he has the charisma of a piece of cardboard.

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Re: The Bret Hart Categories thread!
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2017, 03:47:02 PM »
Well I don't know about HATE, but he's SUPER pedestrian looking. He's a 5. Maybe 6 once he went gold up top just for the effect.

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Re: The Bret Hart Categories thread!
« Reply #49 on: June 09, 2017, 03:55:24 PM »
Challenge:

The two easiest combinations to find, it seems to me, are Looks/Charisma and Skill/Charisma. You could find a lot of guys that excel in those areas while falling a bit short in the third.

But who do think is the best combination of Looks/Skill (at least a 9 in each) while maybe being short on Charisma?
This is a tough one. Anyone who comes to mind is actually a bit lower in one or the other. Brock Lesnar is/was an obvious 10 in Look, and his Skill was good, but never a 9. His Charisma was his worst thing.

Benoit had the Skill, but was too small for a maximum Look.

Dolph & Seth are nowhere near "9" in Look OR Skill.

Sean O'Haire had the Look in spades, but his Skill was actually overrated- he's probably no better than a "7".

The problem is, a high Look means you usually have to be huge, which means you're not always the best worker, unless you use a completely different categorization and separate "Big Man" workers into their own thing.

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Re: The Bret Hart Categories thread!
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2017, 05:47:15 PM »
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The Man Called Sting

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Look: 10. It seriously doesn't get better than this for a pro wrestler. Ridiculously handsome, muscled to the gills without losing mobility, the face paint and brightly colored tights, and a hairstyle that his young fans could easily copy? If anyone could get a Look over 10, Sting would be in that minority

Skill: 7. Arguably a 6 before he added a retinue of suplexes (suplays, maybe? Ask Gordon Solie) after teaming with/against the Steiners for years

Charisma: 10. Men wanted to be him and their wives wanted to fuck him. And he had a fucking stranglehold on the key pro-graps merchandising demo: kids

Total: 27. About as good as we've ever seen


Crow

Look: 10. Despite his superhuman physical attributes declining due to the ravages of age, the new makeup/tights/baseball bat/duster etc more than made up for it

Skill: 6. Again, ravages of age and adapting his style to it. I wouldn't argue if someone said 7, though. Not everybody can adapt like Muta

Charisma: 8. The ever-present tradeoff in pro wrestling: the inverse relationship of adult preference and kid preference. He gained a shit ton of adult male fans during this era, but losttthe kids. Or the other way of looking at it is that his kid fans grew with him, but he lost the appeal to gain the new generation of younger fans

Total: 24. Still easily top tier. And actually having a score even this low makes me think I'm misremembering something
« Last Edit: July 07, 2017, 05:50:24 PM by Wyntyr »
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Re: The Bret Hart Categories thread!
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2017, 05:52:34 PM »
I think I might actually change Crow to a 9 in Charisma. Crowds were fucking DEAFENING every time he showed up after his sabbatical
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