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Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« on: June 23, 2017, 01:42:00 AM »
To be written by Gail Simone and teamed with Aaron Lopresti.

I've already added this to my pull list.

 http://nerdist.com/wonder-woman-and-conan-the-barbarian-crossover-mini-series-coming-soon/

They’re both movie stars, are both badasses with a sword, and have luxurious and flowing dark hair. They’re Wonder Woman and Conan the Barbarian, and the two comic book icons are finally meeting up for a team-up that took way too long to happen.

Announced Monday by DC Comics and Dark Horse Comics (via CBR), writer Gail Simone, who famously scripted Wonder Woman’s adventures several years back, is writing a Wonder Woman/Conan crossover series from the two publishers.

For this series, Gail Simone is reuniting with her former collaborator on the Wonder Woman ongoing comic, artist Aaron Lopresti, now joined by inker Matt Ryan and colorist Wendy Broome. The six-issue series is set to arrive in late-September, and here’s first issue’s official description, along with the cover to issue #1.

“What makes one a legend? How do legends carve their name into history, when countless others are forgotten? Wonder Woman and Conan the Barbarian are destined by the fates to be legendary, but when their stories collide, will both emerge victorious, or will the fickle Gods cut their lives short?”

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Re: Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 04:51:21 PM »
sweet. mediocre art though, which is a disgrace. should have gotten Rags Morales.

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Re: Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2017, 12:13:27 AM »
sweet. mediocre art though, which is a disgrace. should have gotten Rags Morales.
Yeah, much as i like the idea, gonna pass.
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Re: Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2017, 01:01:05 AM »
I'll buy it if only so it'll hopefully lead the way for WW/Tarzan and.. yes, Superman/Doc Savage to match up with Batman/The Shadow.

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Re: Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2017, 09:23:59 PM »
I was interested in this until I found out who the creative team was.

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Re: Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2017, 11:32:22 PM »
I skimmed the first issue. Meh.
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Re: Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2017, 12:18:50 PM »
I really like Simone's Wonder Woman but she's untested on Conan. The Red Sonja/Conan crossover she did with Jim Zub was OK but that could've all been down to Zub. Simone sure as fuck can't write Sonja.

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Re: Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2017, 05:53:20 PM »
I really like Simone's Wonder Woman but she's untested on Conan. The Red Sonja/Conan crossover she did with Jim Zub was OK but that could've all been down to Zub. Simone sure as fuck can't write Sonja.
Much as i enjoy both characters i dont think i'm
Missing anything special here, yeah.
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Re: Conan and Wonder Woman mini-series
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 05:14:18 AM »
Well, I read #1 and it was just so much meh.

I’ve seen so many articles anticipating this series. So many people saying 'ZOMG THIS IS JUST SUCH A GREAT IDEA!!1! WHY HAS NOONE DONE THIS BEFORE???!'

I'll tell you why - because a Conan/WW crossover should last about 4 pages. Conan meets Wonder Woman and either tries to stick his tongue down her throat or patronises her or tries to spank her or something. Wonder Woman then stuffs Conan's head up his own arse. Literally. End of crossover.

Everyone raves about Simone as a Wonder Woman writer, which is fair enough … I thought she did a good job on WW. However, so many people have followed that up with the claim that because Simone wrote Red Sonja, she’s some kind of Hyborian Age scholar.

Bollocks.

I’ve written loads before on the hatchet job Simone did on Sonja’s characterisation but her work with the She-Devil’s world was no better. In Simone’s ‘Red Sonja’, every land looked the same with a lovely spread of ethnicities and people were divided between civilised people and savages. Sonja, a Hykanian, was basically no different from Conan, a Cimmerian, even though their lands were half a world from each other and they were fiercely proud of their homelands. There was no such thing as culture. She clearly looked up a few country names on Robert E Howard’s Wikipedia page and that was that. Characters who had always formerly spoken in Howard’s archaic style were suddenly using expressions like ‘horse’s ass’ and saying ‘I’m everyone’s type’, while winking. After the meta comments in ‘Wonder Woman’ about the title character’s bust size, Sonja acquired a couple of annoying handmaidens who kept talking about how great her tits were, and Simone couldn’t resist the urge to jump instantaneously from violence and gloom to slapstick humour.

This issue is plagued with a lot of those same problems. Simone at least makes the Aesir look like Vikings but otherwise, everything here is so cookie-cutter ‘sword and sorcery world’. No research has gone into what makes Hyborian nationalities different from one another. Simone makes sure to include people talking about Conan’s ‘magnificent physique’, which just seems like her blatantly winking at the reader, just like she did when she kept going on about Sonja’s enormous boobs. She also doesn’t wait to jump from violence to humour as she did before; here, there are pratfalls and tomfoolery in the very panels where people get skewered. I don’t mind violence being mixed with comedy at all but it doesn’t seem right in a ‘Conan’ comic. In an ‘Evil Dead’ movie, sure, but Conan is more grim than that.

We find Wonder Woman chained up in an arena but Simone doesn’t make the most of what could be a really creepy situation. This is exactly the same place we found Sonja at the beginning of Simone’s run and while those first few pages were done splendidly, with the horror of Sonja’s predicament really coming across, Simone almost immediately threw in some cheap humour to do a 180 on the tone and undo her good work. She doesn’t go quite so far here but Diana’s here at her own behest and the scenes aren’t anywhere near as grimy and skin-crawling as they could be.

I really like Aaron Lopresti a lot of the time but reviewers are ejaculating over his work here and I don’t see why. His Art Adams-lite style works for a lot of characters but he makes Conan look too generic, almost cuddly. I know it’s a young Conan but there’s none of Buscema’s steel to this Cimmerian. The other characters and background etc. are perfectly competent but nothing more. The best work here is probably on Diana … Lopresti gives her an almost John Romita Jr. vibe which gives her a bit of personality and is a stark contrast from the Wonder Woman we’re used to.

Why didn't WW kill those gladiators though? That slaver must be the most benevolent games-master I've ever seen to allow them to leave with their lives. Diana's not somebody who's totally opposed to killing, especially this Diana, and I seriously doubt she's going to go through the entire series sparing everyone's lives. Clearly, as well, she's lost, like, 99.99999999% of her powers here. A double elbow to the cranium from Wonder Woman shouldn't just knock a guy out, it should send him on a one-way trip to the planet's core.

Overall, not a BAD comic as such but not the triumph most critics are claiming it to be either.
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