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how important is nato
« on: May 30, 2017, 01:01:16 PM »
To the us and other countries

is it important

Do we get anything from it.

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2017, 01:17:42 PM »
Not important enough for us to remain in it. Time to leave.

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 05:05:22 PM »
To the us and other countries

is it important

Do we get anything from it.
We get a lot of strategic locations for our military might and an alliance with multiple like-minded governments.

Leaving NATO would be incredibly naive and short-sighted, which is largely why Trump suggested it.

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2017, 05:08:41 PM »
yeah one of the reason why were are such a super power is because we are bother geographically hard to attack while also having enough bases in other countries for attack/counter attack advantages. The latter advantage is greatly due to being part of NATO.

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2017, 05:30:47 PM »
The most fundamental advantage of NATO for the U.S. is simply that it makes sure that an economically important and highly developed part of the world remains politically and strategically stable and friendly to the U.S. Exiting NATO would be a pretty idiotic and short-sighted course of action, very possibly being far more expensive to the U.S. in the longer run than remaining, so of course Trump is favoring it.

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 05:40:23 PM »
Yes because the debt that comes with being a "superpower" is worth it... Having 'strategic' locations around the world is great when you want to be the policemen of the world. But guess what? It hasn't worked. To say it's "naive" to be against an interventionist policy that we literally cannot afford is the definition of short-sighted.

America is safe. No one is going to attack the mainland, you literally have to belong to a rogue group or act solo because no nation (except MAYBE North Korea) would put themselves on a suicide path like that. We have one of the best geographical locations in the world. Two oceans and only bordering two countries, both of which are allies. On top of that, we have the most advanced technology in the world and most importantly enough nukes to destroy the entire planet. There's a reason why the Soviet Union, who was inferior to us in essentially every single way, was considered an existential threat. Once you have nukes you're basically good. Combine that with a good economy, a good military, and the geographic situation we have and we have nothing to worry about.

NATO is dangerous. What caused World War I, the war that started all modern wars? Drawing of alliances and stupid treaties that said "if anyone attacks you we attack them."

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2017, 05:49:26 PM »
i also prevented attacks. because no one wants a world war

we probally would of had more medium and mini wars


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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2017, 05:51:23 PM »
Really? What nuclear countries are having mini-wars that they didn't start?

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2017, 06:16:34 PM »
Really? What nuclear countries are having mini-wars that they didn't start?

I said without nato we would

not with it

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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2017, 06:19:21 PM »
Yes because the debt that comes with being a "superpower" is worth it... Having 'strategic' locations around the world is great when you want to be the policemen of the world. But guess what? It hasn't worked. To say it's "naive" to be against an interventionist policy that we literally cannot afford is the definition of short-sighted.

America is safe. No one is going to attack the mainland, you literally have to belong to a rogue group or act solo because no nation (except MAYBE North Korea) would put themselves on a suicide path like that. We have one of the best geographical locations in the world. Two oceans and only bordering two countries, both of which are allies. On top of that, we have the most advanced technology in the world and most importantly enough nukes to destroy the entire planet. There's a reason why the Soviet Union, who was inferior to us in essentially every single way, was considered an existential threat. Once you have nukes you're basically good. Combine that with a good economy, a good military, and the geographic situation we have and we have nothing to worry about.

NATO is dangerous. What caused World War I, the war that started all modern wars? Drawing of alliances and stupid treaties that said "if anyone attacks you we attack them."

So fuck Hawaii, Alaska, and our and 5 inhabited territories?

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2017, 06:21:26 PM »
Really? What nuclear countries are having mini-wars that they didn't start?

I said without nato we would

not with it

So you think countries would mess with nuclear powers? Like, attack the mainland? How would that be a mini-war?

Yes because the debt that comes with being a "superpower" is worth it... Having 'strategic' locations around the world is great when you want to be the policemen of the world. But guess what? It hasn't worked. To say it's "naive" to be against an interventionist policy that we literally cannot afford is the definition of short-sighted.

America is safe. No one is going to attack the mainland, you literally have to belong to a rogue group or act solo because no nation (except MAYBE North Korea) would put themselves on a suicide path like that. We have one of the best geographical locations in the world. Two oceans and only bordering two countries, both of which are allies. On top of that, we have the most advanced technology in the world and most importantly enough nukes to destroy the entire planet. There's a reason why the Soviet Union, who was inferior to us in essentially every single way, was considered an existential threat. Once you have nukes you're basically good. Combine that with a good economy, a good military, and the geographic situation we have and we have nothing to worry about.

NATO is dangerous. What caused World War I, the war that started all modern wars? Drawing of alliances and stupid treaties that said "if anyone attacks you we attack them."

So fuck Hawaii, Alaska, and our and 5 inhabited territories?

What does that have to do with NATO?

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2017, 06:24:03 PM »
Really? What nuclear countries are having mini-wars that they didn't start?

I said without nato we would

not with it

So you think countries would mess with nuclear powers? Like, attack the mainland? How would that be a mini-war?

Yes because the debt that comes with being a "superpower" is worth it... Having 'strategic' locations around the world is great when you want to be the policemen of the world. But guess what? It hasn't worked. To say it's "naive" to be against an interventionist policy that we literally cannot afford is the definition of short-sighted.

America is safe. No one is going to attack the mainland, you literally have to belong to a rogue group or act solo because no nation (except MAYBE North Korea) would put themselves on a suicide path like that. We have one of the best geographical locations in the world. Two oceans and only bordering two countries, both of which are allies. On top of that, we have the most advanced technology in the world and most importantly enough nukes to destroy the entire planet. There's a reason why the Soviet Union, who was inferior to us in essentially every single way, was considered an existential threat. Once you have nukes you're basically good. Combine that with a good economy, a good military, and the geographic situation we have and we have nothing to worry about.

NATO is dangerous. What caused World War I, the war that started all modern wars? Drawing of alliances and stupid treaties that said "if anyone attacks you we attack them."

So fuck Hawaii, Alaska, and our and 5 inhabited territories?

What does that have to do with NATO?

Well Russian nuckler power, certaining think they would invade some countries in nato if those countries werent part of it

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2017, 06:29:31 PM »
I want to leave NATO but not for the same reaosns as Trump.

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2017, 06:32:46 PM »
I want to leave NATO but not for the same reaosns as Trump.

where do you differ

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Re: how important is nato
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2017, 06:48:23 PM »
Really? What nuclear countries are having mini-wars that they didn't start?

I said without nato we would

not with it

So you think countries would mess with nuclear powers? Like, attack the mainland? How would that be a mini-war?

Yes because the debt that comes with being a "superpower" is worth it... Having 'strategic' locations around the world is great when you want to be the policemen of the world. But guess what? It hasn't worked. To say it's "naive" to be against an interventionist policy that we literally cannot afford is the definition of short-sighted.

America is safe. No one is going to attack the mainland, you literally have to belong to a rogue group or act solo because no nation (except MAYBE North Korea) would put themselves on a suicide path like that. We have one of the best geographical locations in the world. Two oceans and only bordering two countries, both of which are allies. On top of that, we have the most advanced technology in the world and most importantly enough nukes to destroy the entire planet. There's a reason why the Soviet Union, who was inferior to us in essentially every single way, was considered an existential threat. Once you have nukes you're basically good. Combine that with a good economy, a good military, and the geographic situation we have and we have nothing to worry about.

NATO is dangerous. What caused World War I, the war that started all modern wars? Drawing of alliances and stupid treaties that said "if anyone attacks you we attack them."

So fuck Hawaii, Alaska, and our and 5 inhabited territories?

What does that have to do with NATO?

Being part of NATO gives us a strategic advantage to protect our territories.