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So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...

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So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« on: May 18, 2017, 03:53:13 PM »
...if he writes Superman ripping Doomsday and feels that Hulk is stronger?

https://www.inverse.com/article/31525-hulk-superman-amadeus-greg-pak-gene-luen-yang-podcast

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 05:08:28 PM »
Does he mean "potentially" or what?

Just hanging around, every day doing some "shopping" strength?

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 05:13:38 PM »
Hulks folds Doomsday into origami. Strongest there is.

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 05:37:40 PM »
Interestingly enough; he doesn't seem to think Superman could match Hulk's increases in anger because no matter how strong Superman is, Hulk can just get angrier.

I work on the assumption he's aware of "Mental breaks, sun dips etc....." since he was a Superman writer at some point right?


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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 06:39:23 PM »
Who wasn't aware of this? Why is such an obvious statement being highlighted?

Hulk is technically stronger than Pre Crisis Superman as well.. And we saw how that turned out... And oh yeah, a fragmented Superman. 😎

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 06:42:13 PM »
Riv nailed it

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 07:27:50 PM »
Interestingly enough; he doesn't seem to think Superman could match Hulk's increases in anger because no matter how strong Superman is, Hulk can just get angrier.

I work on the assumption he's aware of "Mental breaks, sun dips etc....." since he was a Superman writer at some point right?


Exactly.
Hulk should always be stronger than Supes, with Supes having the edge in speed and variety of powers.

I'm a fan of both characters and thats fine by me, some ppl flip their shit over Supes not having EVERY SINGLE category as an advantage though.
Hulk isn't 'always' stronger than Thor let alone Superman. According to Marvel. He has *dynamic* strength. Foh.

Some Marvel fanboys want their faves to be better than Supes out of transparent jealousy. That's all this comes down to. 😎

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2017, 10:03:35 AM »
Interestingly enough; he doesn't seem to think Superman could match Hulk's increases in anger because no matter how strong Superman is, Hulk can just get angrier.

I work on the assumption he's aware of "Mental breaks, sun dips etc....." since he was a Superman writer at some point right?


Exactly.
Hulk should always be stronger than Supes, with Supes having the edge in speed and variety of powers.

I'm a fan of both characters and thats fine by me, some ppl flip their shit over Supes not having EVERY SINGLE category as an advantage though.
No, what you're suggesting is a binary answer were the answer is more nuanced. Superman STR is nearly unlimited, Hulk STR is potentially unlimited. The problem is Superman starts out much stronger than Hulk, for Hulk to surpass SM requires a lvl of anger he's unlikely to receive. Unlike the Abomination who revels in angering the Hulk, a typical SM vs Hulk fight won't  reach those lvl of anger b/c SM in character will De-escalate the situation. Also I'm not sure PAK is even a fan of the mental block aspect of SM  powers, plus looking on how their powers work can you really distinguish the difference between 24 karat gold & 23.9 karat gold.

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2017, 10:08:23 AM »
There's no writer in comics more in support of a Superman dynamic mental block factor than Pak.

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2017, 03:29:56 PM »
There's no writer in comics more in support of a Superman dynamic mental block factor than Pak.

So Pak's not just speaking out of his ass then.

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2017, 03:48:07 PM »
There's no writer in comics more in support of a Superman dynamic mental block factor than Pak.

So Pak's not just speaking out of his ass then.
Hulks internal dynamic factor strength potential  is greater than a fractured post Flashpoint nu52 Superman's. I never denied this.

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2017, 03:55:04 PM »
There's no writer in comics more in support of a Superman dynamic mental block factor than Pak.

So Pak's not just speaking out of his ass then.
Hulks internal dynamic factor strength potential  is greater than a fractured post Flashpoint nu52 Superman's. I never denied this.

Yeah but Pak seems to think it's greater "period", fractured or not.


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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2017, 04:40:45 PM »
"Potential" is what makes every mutant an Omega level mutant

Superman wins.

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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2017, 04:59:44 PM »
There's no writer in comics more in support of a Superman dynamic mental block factor than Pak.

So Pak's not just speaking out of his ass then.
Hulks internal dynamic factor strength potential  is greater than a fractured post Flashpoint nu52 Superman's. I never denied this.


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Re: So How Strong Does Pak See Hulk...
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2017, 05:35:12 PM »
There's no writer in comics more in support of a Superman dynamic mental block factor than Pak.

So Pak's not just speaking out of his ass then.
Hulks internal dynamic factor strength potential  is greater than a fractured post Flashpoint nu52 Superman's. I never denied this.

Yeah but Pak seems to think it's greater "period", fractured or not.


He doesn't have a say on plotlines he didn't have a hand in.