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SJWs go after Marvel (of course)
« on: April 22, 2017, 03:05:19 PM »
They should do a study on SJWs to see what percentage of them are inbred because how fucking stupid and pathetic do you have to be to promote the garbage they promote?

As far as I'm concerned, SJWs are an inferior sub-species of the human race and should be viewed as such.

Anyway:

Marvel Promotes Captain America ‘Event’ With Shirts Promoting Nazi-Linked Group



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In April 2017, Marvel Entertainment caused a stir by inviting comic-book retailers to dress their staff in shirts to promote a miniseries depicting a fictional group linked to Nazi Germany.

The promotion, which coincided with the 19 April 2017 release of Secret Empire #0, offered sellers the chance to order shirts for its staff bearing the insignia for Hydra, a villainous organization that has at times been led by Nazi supervillains Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker and the Red Skull:



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Stores evidently wished to also have the opportunity to make physical changes to their stores in keeping with the “crossover event” depicting the original Captain America, Steve Rogers, as he betrays his fellow heroes while revealing that he is Hydra’s “Supreme Leader.” At least one North Carolina-based retailer has rejected the idea, saying online that her store would not change its logos to promote the miniseries, saying, “My staff are LGBTQ, Jewish, or both.”

The miniseries picks up from the Steve Rogers: Captain America series, which debuted in May 2016 by revealing that wartime hero Rogers (whose creators, Joe Kirby and Joe Simon, were Jewish) was secretly a lifelong Hydra operative and a follower of the Red Skull. Marvel Executive Editor Tom Breevort said at the time:

[/quote]"We try to write comics in 2016 that are about the world and the zeitgeist of 2016, particularly in Captain America. Nick Spencer, the writer, is very politically active. He’s a Capitol Hill head and following this election very closely. So we can talk about political issues in a metaphoric way. That’s what gives our stories weight and meat to them. Any parallels you have seen to situations real or imagined, living or dead, is probably intentional but metaphorically not literally"[/quote]

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However, Entertainment Weekly reported on 7 April 2017 that both Spencer and Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso insist that the series has little to do with contemporary politics.

An employee for an Indiana-based store (who asked to be identified only as Mary) also criticized Marvel and Spencer for recasting Hydra as an ancient group that was taken over by the Red Skull even though it was opposed to the Nazi regime. In Secret Empire #0, a flashback scene describes the organization — not Nazis — as the opposition to the Allies, and also reveals that Rogers was always working for Hydra instead of having been manipulated.

Mary told us:

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I think this move to state that, while being facists, Hydra aren’t Nazis is sensationalistic garbage. Just because Marvel tells us that Hydra aren’t Nazis doesn’t mean that the intent with which they were created suddenly goes away. Kirby and Simon meant for them to be Nazis.

As much as Marvel may want, that is not going away.

They murdered millions and I’m a lesbian who’s grandfather was held as a POW by the Nazis during the war, I’m not going to promote this book. I’m not going to glorify something like this so Marvel can make a buck.

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While she did not receive Marvel’s promotional offer, Mary said, “the grand majority” of reactions from other retailers to the company’s outreach has been negative. She also noted what she called a “marginal” drop in pre-orders for Secret Empire, and an increase who have stopped buying Captain America-related comics or Marvel comics altogether.

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"Others were intrigued to see how it played out, but they seemed few and far between.

But what really got me the most were the kids who were absolutely beside themselves at the fact Captain America was a bad guy. That was hard."

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The Steve Rogers series has garnered a mixed reaction since its debut; critics argued that the story was also questionable given that Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter’s reputed ties to President Donald Trump’s administration. Perlmutter donated $1 million to a fundraiser during Trump’s campaign and was reportedly tapped to be an “informal” advisor to his administration on veterans’ affairs.

Writer Nick Spencer also came under criticism for decrying a physical attack against white nationalist Richard Spencer (no relation) in January 2017.

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Re: SJWs go after Marvel (of course)
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2017, 03:22:27 PM »
What exactly is your problem here?

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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2017, 03:24:33 PM »
SJWs are attacking Marvel for having this event with a Nazi-linked group and are mad that they are selling HYDRA merchandise. My problem is with their protest against Marvel.

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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2017, 03:33:14 PM »
I don't see how one retailer deciding not to have her staff were Hydra shirts is attack but ok.

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2017, 03:40:50 PM »
??

Snopes is covering it for a reason.

Already irked fans threaten boycott over Marvel’s new Hydra campaign

https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/secret-empire-hydra-shirts-marvel/

MARVEL COMICS WANTS RETAILERS TO DRESS UP AS NAZIS?

http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/marvel-comics-wants-retailers-dress-nazis

MARVEL WANTS COMIC SHOP EMPLOYEES TO DRESS LIKE "TOTALLY NOT NAZI ANALOGOUS" HYDRA DURING SECRET EMPIRE

http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/138063-marvel-want-comic-shop-employees-to-dress-like-totally-not-nazi-analogous-hydra-during-secret-empire.html

"Hydra Captain America" Writer Defends White Nationalist

And then the other mention in Snopes' article regarding a Marvel writer being criticized for 'defending' a white supremacist who was violently attacked.

https://www.inverse.com/article/26752-hydra-captain-america-richard-spencer-getting-punched-alt-right-nazi-sympathizer-nick-spencer

^which makes no sense since his 'defense' was not much of a defense of the guy: "Today is difficult, but cheering violence against speech, even of the most detestable, disgusting variety, is not a look that will age well."

In that article they reference another store and quote another comic store owner:

"“I worry for people working in comic shops who have no choice but to wear the shirts. The message of hate is loud and clear. I feel that this is one more nail in the coffin, so to speak. Marvel has been tone deaf during this entire event, and they don’t seem to be budging.”"

"Her shop Variant Edmonton will not participate in the promotion. Commenting on Twitter, she offered a simple explanation: “People shouldn’t be cosplaying as Nazis. Period.”




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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2017, 03:46:46 PM »
Again I don't see the problem. It seems to focused around the shirts and not the story itself mostly. If people don't want the shirts or don't want to wear the shirts thats up to them. What exactly is the problem with that?

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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2017, 03:50:17 PM »
It's more the not just not wearing it, they are attacking Marvel for selling it and for customers wearing it. How. Do you not see this? I'm genuinely confused by you right now.

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2017, 03:54:25 PM »
If you go to the origin Twitter page, you'll see its not just one person. Apparently a lot of folks commented and we're "outraged."

https://twitter.com/NickiColey/status/855192572507107328

It's really silly for a lot of reasons.

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 03:56:41 PM »
It's more the not just not wearing it, they are attacking Marvel for selling it and for customers wearing it. How. Do you not see this? I'm genuinely confused by you right now.

The shirt isn't for customers. Its for employees of retailers.
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Marvel‘s summer event comic, Secret Empire, is now inextricably linked with Nazism. It’s so controversial that fans are even objecting to a seemingly banal marketing ploy: free promotional T-shirts for comic store employees.

And it seems like the retailers and employees who have a problem with wearing the shirts.

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As someone who works in a comic store, Marvel can fuck off with this nonsense. My grandfather was an Allied soldier captured by the Nazis.

Retailers and employees should be allowed to voice their opinion on wearing a fictional Nazi symbol since they are the ones wearing it.

This doesn't seem to have anything to do with what customers can or can't buy or wear.

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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 03:58:52 PM »
If you go to the origin Twitter page, you'll see its not just one person. Apparently a lot of folks commented and we're "outraged."

https://twitter.com/NickiColey/status/855192572507107328

It's really silly for a lot of reasons.

yeah its silly. I got a Hydra pin on my messenger bag. But if an employee or retailer doesn't want to wear the shirt thats their decision.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2017, 04:03:06 PM »
Plus this won't effect Marvel at all. It will probably actually bump the sales up.

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2017, 04:20:49 PM »
It's more the not just not wearing it, they are attacking Marvel for selling it and for customers wearing it. How. Do you not see this? I'm genuinely confused by you right now.

The shirt isn't for customers. Its for employees of retailers.
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Marvel‘s summer event comic, Secret Empire, is now inextricably linked with Nazism. It’s so controversial that fans are even objecting to a seemingly banal marketing ploy: free promotional T-shirts for comic store employees.

And it seems like the retailers and employees who have a problem with wearing the shirts.

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As someone who works in a comic store, Marvel can fuck off with this nonsense. My grandfather was an Allied soldier captured by the Nazis.

Retailers and employees should be allowed to voice their opinion on wearing a fictional Nazi symbol since they are the ones wearing it.

This doesn't seem to have anything to do with what customers can or can't buy or wear.

You're not reading what these people are saying.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2017, 04:33:38 PM »
What am I missing? The comic is still being sold by the retailers. People are saying fuck off to the promotional teacher because they don't want to wear them because Hydra are Nazis. Even the "hand-selling" comment is barely an gesture since she will still be selling the comic.

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2017, 04:37:27 PM »
this remind me if the college shirt controversy

basicly the shirt was a rape Joke. And people thought the college was going against it and it being SJW run amuck. When really they were like you mind not having a shirt with out college name on it making a rape Joke. Where it on your own time or outside we dont give a shit.

sometimes anti sjw..the most easly triggered guys ever.


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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2017, 04:41:33 PM »
I'm not happy about Cap being a Hydra agent, and am sick of event comics in general.

But

I think those shirts look dope. Which makes sense since the Germans had the best uniforms in WWII.

So I'm confused, does that make me a SJW or a Nazi?


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