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Will we go to war with North Korea?

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Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2017, 02:57:40 AM »
There are interesting articles about this.  They are too poor, uneducated, etc. to ever pose a serious threat to anyone.  Even in a one-on-one battle with South Korea, they would get their shit pushed in at this point and SK is not that strong in terms of military might.  They often throw these little temper tantrums to 1) bolster their own propaganda for their citizens and 2) they hope the UN or someone will throw some aid at them to get them to shut up.  They are kind of stuck doing this, too.  If the Kims ever let up, their citizens would revolt and the country would turn into the Somalia of Asia over night.  If they provoke actual war, then they will be destroyed over night.  They are kind of stuck in this situation until someone wipes them out or they collapse entirely.

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Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2017, 09:56:14 AM »
There are interesting articles about this.  They are too poor, uneducated, etc. to ever pose a serious threat to anyone.  Even in a one-on-one battle with South Korea, they would get their shit pushed in at this point and SK is not that strong in terms of military might.  They often throw these little temper tantrums to 1) bolster their own propaganda for their citizens and 2) they hope the UN or someone will throw some aid at them to get them to shut up.  They are kind of stuck doing this, too.  If the Kims ever let up, their citizens would revolt and the country would turn into the Somalia of Asia over night.  If they provoke actual war, then they will be destroyed over night.  They are kind of stuck in this situation until someone wipes them out or they collapse entirely.

It's a really really unusual situation since we don't really know what would happen. If we didn't care about their civilians at all, you are right we would dominate them. But don't forget the Korean War, that was not an easy war (and remember, we didn't "win" or they wouldn't exist in the first place). Granted, they had the help from the Chinese and they wouldn't have those this time. They still do have over a MILLION soldiers, but in this day and age how much does that matter?

MY GUESS is that if they test nukes again, we will try our best to locate all their military bases that pose a "threat" and take them out. Based on Kim Jong Un's mental stability would dictate his response. Will he be so mad that he will actually kill thousands to millions of people in South Korea that would ultimately end his life since theres no way we all wouldnt retaliate?

Apparently China DID threaten North Korea with sanctions which is pretty unheard of. So time will tell (and this wont take long) to see how stupid North Korea truly is. China is worried as fuck because like you said it would be Somalia overnight and there would be a MAJOR refugee crisis that would impact all the neighboring countries for years and years.

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Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2017, 09:43:01 PM »
North Korea in the 1950's was a fairly powerful country at leas tin terms of the military.  The southern part of the peninsula were ill equipped for a civil war.  Since that time, it has depleted its resources to the point where it is very much a third world country while South Korea has grown.  If North Korea started a war, the estimates is that it would fall in about three days.  Their missile systems don't work properly and they mostly rely on infantry, which is outdated by several decades.

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Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2017, 01:26:43 PM »
Actully hard to figure out what to do

While Kim looks like Charlie brown trying to kick the football with these missle test, eventully one of these will work
We dont want them to get nukes. But it hard to talk them out it, because the last person we told not to used nuke..his head was used as a soccer ball

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Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2017, 12:10:04 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/skorea-rival-n-korea-launches-221238531.html


oh shit these missles starting to suck less balls

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Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2017, 12:43:59 AM »
The problem with NK is that there is no palatable solution

China is usually the intermediary and we don't know how much leverage they hold over NK and they always exact a toll. The price for their cooperation is usually economic trade liberties

Militarily North Korea knows the US is unpredictable and see's a nuclear weapon as it's only real deterrant and guarantee of survivial.

If you were the regime in NK and you saw Trump randomly picking fights with allies, who's to say he might not decide to create an issue with you as well?

The tricky part is that even in conventional warfare there noe easy option

If US planes fly sorties into North Korea they will take losses against North Korean S-300's (similar to Patriot missile defenses)

If infantry hits the ground it's a land war in Asia, and it's time-consuming. Anything that's time consuming allows conventional North Korean weapons to devastate Seoul with missiles and no defense system in the world can pick them all off. Seoul is nearly as densely packed as Tokyo, it would be unreal.

Intelligence has no guarantee's of all of North Korea's hidden missiles silo's as well. In a best case scenario the US takes out scores of NK targets but NK stll has missiles flying into Seoul and depending if its infantry or air war, the US is still taking heavy losses.

The only guarantee the US has is nuclear in miitary terms and the political fallout would be huge to say the least.

North Korea has been after a guarantee for a while and I think the situation will eventually come to a head. Hopefully Trump wull be impeached before it does

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Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2017, 03:33:28 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/skorea-rival-n-korea-launches-221238531.html


oh shit these missles starting to suck less balls

People always ask, what would you have done during the rise of Hitler?

Turns out; we would have done nothing.

Going by how we deal with North Korea.