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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #195 on: March 21, 2017, 09:06:04 PM »
Buried by whom? Both MUTOs and Godzilla individually withstood more than ANYTHING on that island could dish out and they dished out more than anything on that island can take.

Your entire argument is built on the idea that everything will work together to defeat Godzilla and there's no reason whatsoever to believe that would happen because nothing in the entire Skull Island film supports it.

Skull Island doesn't have enough in the tank to even stagger Godzilla. Maybe if Kong has nearly 50 years of steady growth that will change, but as of now? Their best possible hope would be him getting bored and going back to sleep in the ocean.
Nah. Godzilla was ko'd when a building fell on him.  A very brief fight also caused him to pass after winning. 

So when everyone said he'd crush the island they don't all fight him at once.  Seems like a cop out to me. 

False.  Knocking him into a mountain could probably ko Godzilla or just making him fight for an extended period of time.  Given how slow he is they'd be all over him and he'd be too slow to react.  He was too slow to react to two slower Mutos.
Nobody on Skull Island demonstrated the strength or body weight to knock Godzilla around at all, let alone into a mountain for some hopeful KO you've drastically oversimplified in your head.

You are the one arguing Skull Island's inhabitants could somehow unite to fight Godzilla. You just need to show us why that has any plausibility.
Kong tossed the skull crawler into a mountain.  To act like he couldn't knock him into a mountain when the smaller MUTO was is reaching.  The big skull crawler's tail also knocked Kong a considerable distance.
This is absolutely adorable. You aren't even in the same galaxy as correct, but here you are, holding firm on a stance even you know is stupid.

An Adult Skullcrawler weighs(wait for it!)  100 tons! Holy shit, that's pretty heavy. For one of Godzilla's radioactive balls.

Legendary's Godzilla weighs (drumroll, please) 90,000 tons.

Not pounds. Tons. Those are specific citations from the studio. Kong wasn't throwing that 100 tons around the way a human throws a grain of sand. That shit took effort.

Kong only needs to get 900 times stronger over 50 years to throw Godzilla.

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #196 on: March 21, 2017, 09:06:54 PM »
Kong is 100 feet tall, weighs over 100 tons.

Godzilla is 3.5 times taller weighs 90,000 tons.

One hit and Kong is a red cloud.

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #197 on: March 21, 2017, 09:07:42 PM »
Well Xerxes beat me to it.

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #198 on: March 21, 2017, 09:46:54 PM »
Buried by whom? Both MUTOs and Godzilla individually withstood more than ANYTHING on that island could dish out and they dished out more than anything on that island can take.

Your entire argument is built on the idea that everything will work together to defeat Godzilla and there's no reason whatsoever to believe that would happen because nothing in the entire Skull Island film supports it.

Skull Island doesn't have enough in the tank to even stagger Godzilla. Maybe if Kong has nearly 50 years of steady growth that will change, but as of now? Their best possible hope would be him getting bored and going back to sleep in the ocean.
Nah. Godzilla was ko'd when a building fell on him.  A very brief fight also caused him to pass after winning. 

So when everyone said he'd crush the island they don't all fight him at once.  Seems like a cop out to me. 

False.  Knocking him into a mountain could probably ko Godzilla or just making him fight for an extended period of time.  Given how slow he is they'd be all over him and he'd be too slow to react.  He was too slow to react to two slower Mutos.
Nobody on Skull Island demonstrated the strength or body weight to knock Godzilla around at all, let alone into a mountain for some hopeful KO you've drastically oversimplified in your head.

You are the one arguing Skull Island's inhabitants could somehow unite to fight Godzilla. You just need to show us why that has any plausibility.
Kong tossed the skull crawler into a mountain.  To act like he couldn't knock him into a mountain when the smaller MUTO was is reaching.  The big skull crawler's tail also knocked Kong a considerable distance.
This is absolutely adorable. You aren't even in the same galaxy as correct, but here you are, holding firm on a stance even you know is stupid.

An Adult Skullcrawler weighs(wait for it!)  100 tons! Holy shit, that's pretty heavy. For one of Godzilla's radioactive balls.

Legendary's Godzilla weighs (drumroll, please) 90,000 tons.

Not pounds. Tons. Those are specific citations from the studio. Kong wasn't throwing that 100 tons around the way a human throws a grain of sand. That shit took effort.

Kong only needs to get 900 times stronger over 50 years to throw Godzilla.
You are not factoring in movement speed at all.  The more faster something moves the greater the force of impact.  It's also ridiculous to act like weight alone decides this.  Look at what the Hulk weighed and compare that to the weight of the leviathan.  What happened when these two met up in the avengers one ?  Hulk easily trashed it. 

Yes, Kong did require effort to throw his peer but my point was he was able to throw a peer.  Godzilla wasn't able to throw either MUTO.  He isn't as strong as Kong relatively speaking with regards to peers.  I am not saying he is going to throw Godzilla but I am predicting he will be stronger when he's a peer in size.  He will also have the intelligence and the speed advantage.

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #199 on: March 21, 2017, 09:47:49 PM »
What a crock of shit.

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #200 on: March 21, 2017, 09:48:14 PM »
Kong is 100 feet tall, weighs over 100 tons.

Godzilla is 3.5 times taller weighs 90,000 tons.

One hit and Kong is a red cloud.
Based off what ?  Weight in fiction is hilarious look at the Hulk when dealing with much bigger objects at the point of collision.  Hulk won easily and the weight was even more in the other direction than this was I'd venture to say.

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« Reply #201 on: March 21, 2017, 09:49:14 PM »
What a crock of shit.
So you ignore the weight argument against the Hulk.  Fact is what did Godzilla do in the film that has you firmly believe he's this badass.  Just his size ??

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #202 on: March 21, 2017, 09:50:14 PM »
You have got to be fucking kidding me.

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #203 on: March 21, 2017, 09:51:07 PM »
Listen Kong is gonna be a real threat once he does his 1980's "One day I'm gonna be big and strong" milk commercial.

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #204 on: March 21, 2017, 09:54:17 PM »
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
What have I said that is untrue ??

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #205 on: March 21, 2017, 09:54:56 PM »
Listen Kong is gonna be a real threat once he does his 1980's "One day I'm gonna be big and strong" milk commercial.
Kong was a real threat in the 70's he just not at his prime.  Scary indeed. 

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« Reply #206 on: March 21, 2017, 10:09:47 PM »
What a crock of shit.
So you ignore the weight argument against the Hulk.  Fact is what did Godzilla do in the film that has you firmly believe he's this badass.  Just his size ??
Kong is not The Hulk. That's a horrible analogy.

We have video evidence of Kong struggling with FAR below the weight level of Godzilla. The adult Skullcrawler was comparably strong and knocked Kong the fuck OUT. The MUTOs hunt Godzillas to lay their eggs inside like wasps vs Tarantulas. They've killed some in the past, as the movie showed. The Skullcrawler killed Kongs in the past.

The MUTOs operate in a much higher weight class literally and figuratively.

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« Reply #207 on: March 21, 2017, 10:12:39 PM »
Buried by whom? Both MUTOs and Godzilla individually withstood more than ANYTHING on that island could dish out and they dished out more than anything on that island can take.

Your entire argument is built on the idea that everything will work together to defeat Godzilla and there's no reason whatsoever to believe that would happen because nothing in the entire Skull Island film supports it.

Skull Island doesn't have enough in the tank to even stagger Godzilla. Maybe if Kong has nearly 50 years of steady growth that will change, but as of now? Their best possible hope would be him getting bored and going back to sleep in the ocean.
Nah. Godzilla was ko'd when a building fell on him.  A very brief fight also caused him to pass after winning. 

So when everyone said he'd crush the island they don't all fight him at once.  Seems like a cop out to me. 

False.  Knocking him into a mountain could probably ko Godzilla or just making him fight for an extended period of time.  Given how slow he is they'd be all over him and he'd be too slow to react.  He was too slow to react to two slower Mutos.
Nobody on Skull Island demonstrated the strength or body weight to knock Godzilla around at all, let alone into a mountain for some hopeful KO you've drastically oversimplified in your head.

You are the one arguing Skull Island's inhabitants could somehow unite to fight Godzilla. You just need to show us why that has any plausibility.
Kong tossed the skull crawler into a mountain.  To act like he couldn't knock him into a mountain when the smaller MUTO was is reaching.  The big skull crawler's tail also knocked Kong a considerable distance.
This is absolutely adorable. You aren't even in the same galaxy as correct, but here you are, holding firm on a stance even you know is stupid.

An Adult Skullcrawler weighs(wait for it!)  100 tons! Holy shit, that's pretty heavy. For one of Godzilla's radioactive balls.

Legendary's Godzilla weighs (drumroll, please) 90,000 tons.

Not pounds. Tons. Those are specific citations from the studio. Kong wasn't throwing that 100 tons around the way a human throws a grain of sand. That shit took effort.

Kong only needs to get 900 times stronger over 50 years to throw Godzilla.
You are not factoring in movement speed at all.  The more faster something moves the greater the force of impact.  It's also ridiculous to act like weight alone decides this.  Look at what the Hulk weighed and compare that to the weight of the leviathan.  What happened when these two met up in the avengers one ?  Hulk easily trashed it. 

Yes, Kong did require effort to throw his peer but my point was he was able to throw a peer.  Godzilla wasn't able to throw either MUTO.  He isn't as strong as Kong relatively speaking with regards to peers.  I am not saying he is going to throw Godzilla but I am predicting he will be stronger when he's a peer in size.  He will also have the intelligence and the speed advantage.


What you're trying to quantify is Force generated.  Which is F=m*v  Here I'll translate if it for you. Force = Mass times velocity.
Which is how much force is generated by a moving object based upon the weight of said object.  The other thing to contend with is the force that's absorbed or even directed back at an object that hits another object.  With Kong being smaller he'd more than likely just bounce the fuck off of Godzilla. 

    As for Godzilla's speed.  And the force he can generate when slapping the shit out of large fast moving objects with his tail. 


And this fucker looks pretty agile here.    He just doesn't care to display it much.  Maybe he'll bring it back after he's spit roasted Kong in 2020.   
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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #208 on: March 21, 2017, 10:38:54 PM »
What a crock of shit.
So you ignore the weight argument against the Hulk.  Fact is what did Godzilla do in the film that has you firmly believe he's this badass.  Just his size ??
Kong is not The Hulk. That's a horrible analogy.

We have video evidence of Kong struggling with FAR below the weight level of Godzilla. The adult Skullcrawler was comparably strong and knocked Kong the fuck OUT. The MUTOs hunt Godzillas to lay their eggs inside like wasps vs Tarantulas. They've killed some in the past, as the movie showed. The Skullcrawler killed Kongs in the past.

The MUTOs operate in a much higher weight class literally and figuratively.
I never said he was but the weight argument doesn't prove anything.  Kong doesn't need to lift Zilla to hurt him.  Kong was already damaged by the napalm prior to their fight.  Zilla was knocked out in the fight by the building and then after he won he just passed out. Kong threw a peer showing how strong he is.  Despite the napalm, the damage from the choppers, gunfire, and protecting a woman he came out on top.  When he won despite all that damage he didn't pass out. 

Difference is the biggest one didn't take out Kong.  He won hands down.

Mutos are bigger, dumber, and slower.  The skullcrawlers and Kong can definitely hurt and ko Zilla.  What's worse is they are a lot faster than Zilla.  Zilla is going to get tagged a lot. 

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Re: Godzilla vs Adult Skullcrawler
« Reply #209 on: March 21, 2017, 10:41:04 PM »
Buried by whom? Both MUTOs and Godzilla individually withstood more than ANYTHING on that island could dish out and they dished out more than anything on that island can take.

Your entire argument is built on the idea that everything will work together to defeat Godzilla and there's no reason whatsoever to believe that would happen because nothing in the entire Skull Island film supports it.

Skull Island doesn't have enough in the tank to even stagger Godzilla. Maybe if Kong has nearly 50 years of steady growth that will change, but as of now? Their best possible hope would be him getting bored and going back to sleep in the ocean.
Nah. Godzilla was ko'd when a building fell on him.  A very brief fight also caused him to pass after winning. 

So when everyone said he'd crush the island they don't all fight him at once.  Seems like a cop out to me. 

False.  Knocking him into a mountain could probably ko Godzilla or just making him fight for an extended period of time.  Given how slow he is they'd be all over him and he'd be too slow to react.  He was too slow to react to two slower Mutos.
Nobody on Skull Island demonstrated the strength or body weight to knock Godzilla around at all, let alone into a mountain for some hopeful KO you've drastically oversimplified in your head.

You are the one arguing Skull Island's inhabitants could somehow unite to fight Godzilla. You just need to show us why that has any plausibility.
Kong tossed the skull crawler into a mountain.  To act like he couldn't knock him into a mountain when the smaller MUTO was is reaching.  The big skull crawler's tail also knocked Kong a considerable distance.
This is absolutely adorable. You aren't even in the same galaxy as correct, but here you are, holding firm on a stance even you know is stupid.

An Adult Skullcrawler weighs(wait for it!)  100 tons! Holy shit, that's pretty heavy. For one of Godzilla's radioactive balls.

Legendary's Godzilla weighs (drumroll, please) 90,000 tons.

Not pounds. Tons. Those are specific citations from the studio. Kong wasn't throwing that 100 tons around the way a human throws a grain of sand. That shit took effort.

Kong only needs to get 900 times stronger over 50 years to throw Godzilla.
You are not factoring in movement speed at all.  The more faster something moves the greater the force of impact.  It's also ridiculous to act like weight alone decides this.  Look at what the Hulk weighed and compare that to the weight of the leviathan.  What happened when these two met up in the avengers one ?  Hulk easily trashed it. 

Yes, Kong did require effort to throw his peer but my point was he was able to throw a peer.  Godzilla wasn't able to throw either MUTO.  He isn't as strong as Kong relatively speaking with regards to peers.  I am not saying he is going to throw Godzilla but I am predicting he will be stronger when he's a peer in size.  He will also have the intelligence and the speed advantage.


What you're trying to quantify is Force generated.  Which is F=m*v  Here I'll translate if it for you. Force = Mass times velocity.
Which is how much force is generated by a moving object based upon the weight of said object.  The other thing to contend with is the force that's absorbed or even directed back at an object that hits another object.  With Kong being smaller he'd more than likely just bounce the fuck off of Godzilla. 

    As for Godzilla's speed.  And the force he can generate when slapping the shit out of large fast moving objects with his tail. 


And this fucker looks pretty agile here.    He just doesn't care to display it much.  Maybe he'll bring it back after he's spit roasted Kong in 2020.
You posted Zilla's not relevant to the American version of 2014.  Post relevant info this makes you look really ignorant.  Lol.

Hulk didn't seem to have a problem despite his lack of mass decimating the leviathan.