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Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2017, 08:34:14 PM »
It is nice seeing these Repubs run like hell from these town hall meetings.  They're  getting what they deserve.  You can't deny all these people who rely on the ACA.  And not have something in place to take its place.  And even with a full time position that's giving people coverage.  That's not necessarily covering all their needs.  Factor in places that want to only give part-time jobs for whatever reasons. 

   Then again there is the irony of this is what you wanted when those who voted for this admin got what they wanted.  Now, they're realizing the consequences.

Most of the ACA users are from expanded medicaid, not from some magicaly awesome insurance offered by for profit insurance carriers.  Now you should direct your aggression twards what it is, more welfare or less.


Amazingly, you can find and read about a lot of these upset Trump supporters who are going to lose these benefits and pluses.  And one of the things that have made The ACA was the insurances jacking up their prices for the ACA.  That's guaranteed money for them with how it's set up.  Think of it like what Pharma does. 

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrTcXuvjK9Y78AAaQaKnIlQ?p=people%20losing%20aca%20that%20voted%20for%20trump&fr=ipad&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Ai%2Cm%3Apivot&stype=web


I find it interesting who has used it and why.  And coupled with the removal of the pre-existing condition coverage.  That screws even more people who may not necessarily be on ACA.  That affects even your standard insurance.   And I'm on my Damn I-pad had some pretty good shit posted.  Damn thing kept refreshing and deleting what I had up. 
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Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2017, 08:44:59 PM »
Check this out for Cali.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mccarthy-744473-california-trump.html


And McCarthy has been a strong advocate of replacing the Affordable Care Act. There are 70,000 federal health insurance recipients in his district, the highest concentration in the state. California receives over $16 billion a year through the Affordable Care Act, equal to one-tenth of the annual state budget.

“He’s in a conundrum,” said Kevin de León, the Democratic leader of the state Senate and a leading critic of Trump. “Does he toe the Republican line? It’s my hope that Kevin will do the right thing and stand by the values and the people of California, irrespective of partisanship.”

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2017, 09:13:37 PM »
think part of this on the dems is not argue for the postives the ACA does. They were always on the defensive. Yes there issues with the ACA, but they let the other side paint the coversation. They back away in the mid term elections not wanting to look to liberal

Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2017, 01:18:16 AM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/mike-pence-obamacare-indiana-hiv-235153

See how great Obamacare can be? :)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/02/23/vp-pence-americas-obamacare-nightmare-is-about-to-end/

Nevermind. I guess it sucks.

Seriously, how sad is it I know Pence is going to be a hypocritical piece of garbage I can organize jokes in stages, spreading them out by days? It annoys me when people say Pence or that lying weasel Ryan are the conscience of the Repubican Party. No, That's John McCain. I've had problems with him over the years, but so far he's the only one who stands up for what his party is supposed to believe in.

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Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2017, 09:04:29 AM »
McCain doesn't stand up for anything. He says words.

He goes right down party lines like 98% of the time.

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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2017, 03:58:46 PM »
McCain doesn't stand up for anything. He says words.

He goes right down party lines like 98% of the time.

Yeah; conscious of the republican party is a bit of an oxymoron.


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Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2017, 08:23:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/MAcatholicmom/status/839093440004648964
https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/839093593251926016



I don't know whats funnier the Cooke calling the current Trump medical plan "Obamacare" or Carol Bannon. who may or may not be Steve Bannon's mom, telling the editor of The National Review, to read more conservative news.

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Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2017, 08:28:58 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2017, 10:24:01 PM »
He wasn't calling it Obamacare, he was referring to the bill it's related to. It's hilarious because the dominant majority of problems with the ACA were personally put the by Republicans.

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Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2017, 08:22:10 AM »
He wasn't calling it Obamacare, he was referring to the bill it's related to. It's hilarious because the dominant majority of problems with the ACA were personally put the by Republicans.

What problems did the republicans put into the ACA?  I watched c-span as it was put into committee, I didn't see anything put in that republicans requested at that point.  During the mockery of a "roundtable" that Obama held that was televised they shot down every republican idea.  Unless you mean that they used an outline of an old republican idea to help form the ACA from I think it was the 90's.

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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2017, 10:53:42 AM »
my guess they going do the repeal first where they take away thier health care.. Then when people dont passed what ever replacement they drum up, then trump would be blame those people for not having health care

there already talks about splitting the bill into 3 parts

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Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2017, 10:56:16 AM »
He wasn't calling it Obamacare, he was referring to the bill it's related to. It's hilarious because the dominant majority of problems with the ACA were personally put the by Republicans.

What problems did the republicans put into the ACA?  I watched c-span as it was put into committee, I didn't see anything put in that republicans requested at that point.  During the mockery of a "roundtable" that Obama held that was televised they shot down every republican idea.  Unless you mean that they used an outline of an old republican idea to help form the ACA from I think it was the 90's.

I vaguely remember it used to be a lot longer and cover more but the Republicans kept complaining and wanted things to get cut when they were still in the process of hashing it out.


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Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2017, 11:19:25 AM »
He wasn't calling it Obamacare, he was referring to the bill it's related to. It's hilarious because the dominant majority of problems with the ACA were personally put the by Republicans.

What problems did the republicans put into the ACA?  I watched c-span as it was put into committee, I didn't see anything put in that republicans requested at that point.  During the mockery of a "roundtable" that Obama held that was televised they shot down every republican idea.  Unless you mean that they used an outline of an old republican idea to help form the ACA from I think it was the 90's.

I vaguely remember it used to be a lot longer and cover more but the Republicans kept complaining and wanted things to get cut when they were still in the process of hashing it out.




Yea think now Obama should of said fuck the republican they would never get a single vote anyway, and just focused on the 3 or 4 blue dogs and twisted some arms that way.

You see how trump doing it now, basicly threatening to primary republicans who dont play ball. There no real talk about reaching over to the dems. And and odd lizard brain way some people respect that. Even reconcilation, whicht dems probally should of did then and on the supreme court pick. Because it not like the dems havent used that tatics before...so if your going to set that prescident anyway that a time to do it.

Now granted trump bill probally will still fail. For republican in slightly less red states, who affriad to piss people off since republicans plan to

or The bestsy Devous "Poor people shouldnt eat lunch" party of the party that think it does TO MUCH.