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The future face of the Democratic Party?

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2017, 08:21:53 PM »
What's even worse; if the Dems pick Hillary again and Trump's not made the US go broke, turn into a third world country or caused WWIII or some other apocalypse.

It's now Hillary vs a Trump that actually has more experience and all his ducks set up in a row to be President.

On top of that Trump won't have to be as extreme.

And they've already blown their best on all the crazy and weird stuff Trump's done.

Presuming of course Trump even bothers with running again.  Guy will be getting pretty old and it's nice to quit on a high point.

I could see Trump running again if his ego gets bruised.  There is some speculation that the only reason he ran to begin with was because Obama made a crack at Trump about never being president during the whole "birther" thing.

There is a lot of evidence to suggest the Dems have not learned their lesson, though.  They still blame everyone but themselves and they're still talking about donors helping them get elected.

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2017, 08:36:37 PM »
Yeah, but Trump is peeving off everyone and he has four years to do that. And I think either Perez or Ellison are smart enough to not fall under the same trap. Nancy Pelosi wouldn't. She's an idiot. Freakin' idiot.

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2017, 08:42:14 PM »
Ellison seems pretty keen on keeping the corporate Democrat/Donor-schmoozing/Big Bank loving model.  Not sure about Perez.

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2017, 09:15:21 PM »
Ellison seems pretty keen on keeping the corporate Democrat/Donor-schmoozing/Big Bank loving model.  Not sure about Perez.

Unlike Ellison, Perez supports TPP. Which as we discussed here before, is full of favors to big pharma, as well as copyright and patent holders.

Perez comes off as another "If I rail hard enough on social issues, maybe people won't notice that I am selling them out economically" type.
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« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2017, 11:12:32 PM »
Ellison seems pretty keen on keeping the corporate Democrat/Donor-schmoozing/Big Bank loving model.  Not sure about Perez.

Unlike Ellison, Perez supports TPP. Which as we discussed here before, is full of favors to big pharma, as well as copyright and patent holders.

Perez comes off as another "If I rail hard enough on social issues, maybe people won't notice that I am selling them out economically" type.

In other words... he's a typical Democrat.

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2017, 11:57:56 AM »
Ellison seems pretty keen on keeping the corporate Democrat/Donor-schmoozing/Big Bank loving model.  Not sure about Perez.

Unlike Ellison, Perez supports TPP. Which as we discussed here before, is full of favors to big pharma, as well as copyright and patent holders.

Perez comes off as another "If I rail hard enough on social issues, maybe people won't notice that I am selling them out economically" type.

In other words... he's a typical Democrat.

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2017, 08:58:30 PM »
Ellison seems pretty keen on keeping the corporate Democrat/Donor-schmoozing/Big Bank loving model.  Not sure about Perez.

Welp perez got it

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2017, 09:40:19 PM »
And already Trump is mocking him and the Dems


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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2017, 09:43:44 PM »








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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2017, 09:44:10 PM »
Trump is right on the money with that remark.

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2017, 10:01:10 PM »
So they elected the corporate shill Perez who was also a Hillary whore. 

How am I not surprised.

DIGUSTING

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2017, 10:11:06 PM »
ok what exactly wrong with Perez beside Hillary liking him. Like what did he do.

And what did Keith have. Because heard people not likeing them both

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2017, 10:19:19 PM »
also what does the vice chair do

apparently Ellison said Perez would be vice chair. is that a real position. or just a a pat on the head.

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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2017, 10:34:56 PM »
Tulsi Gabbard felt the need to resign due to her support of Bernie Sanders. That tells all one needs to know about the Vice Chair being a fluff position. Ellison is there to try and fool progressives.

Screwing Bernie, then picking Kaine, then going for Perez tells the story of what the DNC establishment really thinks about it's everyday supporters.

Those people want candidates who are not beholden to large donor and lobbyist interests. Democrats serve up exactly that. But try to rail on common decency social issues as a way of fooling people into believing they are not Republican lites.
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Re: The future face of the Democratic Party?
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2017, 10:40:31 PM »
Explain it to rock as much as you want.  We've been down this road before.  He won't comprehend it.

DIGUSTING