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Blue Marvel vs Orion
« on: November 23, 2016, 10:45:59 AM »
Use pre-Flashpoint Orion if he's more powerful. Who takes this?

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2016, 08:03:41 AM »
Orion 6/10

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2016, 10:36:23 AM »
Orion every time if Pre Flashpoint, Blue Marvel is wholly unimpressive by his feats. Orion's superior to BM in every way.

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2016, 10:56:12 AM »
Blue Marvel

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2016, 10:59:33 AM »
Isnt BM in the same league of Thor?(at least when he wasnt a beta male).

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2016, 11:02:40 AM »
I've yet to be impressed by BM. He's basically a generic SM clone who outside of his color and scientific knowledge could easily be replaced by any other SM clone that litters the 616 MU.

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2016, 12:03:56 PM »
He also has EM powers

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2016, 01:10:14 PM »
How many SM clones have force fields?


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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2016, 10:49:02 PM »

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2016, 11:13:46 PM »
Orion easily.

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2016, 06:20:12 AM »

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2016, 09:58:10 AM »
Orion easily defeated.

Fixed.

How? BM is outmatched in every conceivable way.

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2016, 10:30:28 AM »
How many SM clones have force fields?


IRRC  Cap Paragon, Cap Comet,  Konel, H'el, Samaritan are all SM clones who also has that ability but like BM almost never use it. I think Sentry & Majestic also has the ability but I'm not 100% sure.

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2016, 11:17:29 AM »
Orion easily defeated.

Fixed.

How? BM is outmatched in every conceivable way.

In every way that you have yet to specify. 

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Re: Blue Marvel vs Orion
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2016, 11:58:33 AM »
Orion easily defeated.

Fixed.

How? BM is outmatched in every conceivable way.

In every way that you have yet to specify.

Neither have you specified how BM wins genius. But no matter I'll go first.

Strength - Fights evenly with Superman in Death of the New Gods, punches a sundipped Superman from India to a rocky Grand Canyon landscape and casually beats Kalibak unamped by Darkseid/Desaad.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/1486547-superman_vs_orion_2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/juhGzzc.jpg

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5109722-jkfw-09-12.jpg

Durability - Has tanked Superman's blows and an insane Lightray's energy blasts.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/1486546-superman_vs_orion.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3006049-6280138867-NewGo.jpg

Speed - Blitzes a starfleet, blitzes Mantis and catches a bullet even when blind.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139323/3492624-astroforceblitzesfleet.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/3757232-1043595241-19890.jpg

http://imgur.com/a/99dPb

Energy Projection - Blasts a sundipped Superman across the globe, atomises Mantis and the shockwaves from his energy blasts in space threatened the planet.

http://i.imgur.com/T18s1M7.jpg

http://imgur.com/a/cbzAV

http://imgur.com/a/OWjSv

Mother Box - Can heal Orion, open boom tubes which can be used to BFR enemies and protect him from transmutation.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/9116/384691-46443-boom-tube.jpg

http://www.cosmicteams.com/newgods/images/post-zerohour/jk4w-09b.jpg

http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11117/111177306/5154436-6796110524-cenPc.jpg

http://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11117/111177306/5168009-image.jpeg

I'm familiar with what Blue Marvel can do as well, he is wholly unimpressive by comparison. His best physical strength feat is lifting an steroid the size of Arkansas, his best striking feat is sucker punching Sentry into orbit and Sentry was weakened by the anti matter from Anti Man, he has no quantifiable combat or reaction speed and his control over energy/anti matter is useless due to Orion's durability and Mother Box. I believe that's specific enough.