Herochat

Recent Posts

Pages: 1 ... 8 9 [10]
91
ICT / Re: Dr. Fate and Black Adam vs Thor and Silver Surfer
« Last post by Regar on Today at 09:20:46 AM »
Thor and Surfer
92
ICT / Re: Tetonic Plates - MCU Captain Marvel moves PLANETS!
« Last post by Tedirey on Today at 08:10:00 AM »
Well, at least Marvel has the guts to make a female character their strongest hero. The only problem I have with this point is that the actress is ugly. Bree Larson? I can't really understand Americans' standard of beauty. Or maybe she's not meant to be beautiful.
93
ICT / Re: Power Picks
« Last post by Riv1 on Today at 07:56:42 AM »
How so?
94
ICT / Re: Power Picks
« Last post by Gree on Today at 07:43:25 AM »
Bit surprised here
95
ICT / Re: Blue Marvel and Monica vs Hal Jordan and Superman
« Last post by gokenadams on Today at 06:47:08 AM »
We will disagree. Superman is in no way stronger than Blue Marvel. Since Blue is Damn near Sentry level and Sentry would spank Superman. Blue being a half step behind Sentry outs him squarely at Superman's best. And, Blue EM is played up quite a bit. He will use it as much as he uses his strength and cosmic awareness. Monica and Hal could either way. But If you switch partners, Superman will have a damn hard time Monica because she could easily be Knite radiation or Red Sunlight while Blue will beat the shot out of Hal. Marvel 7/10.

do us all a favor and shut your retarded ass up
96
ICT / Re: Blue Marvel and Monica vs Hal Jordan and Superman
« Last post by fangirl101 on Today at 06:38:35 AM »
We will disagree. Superman is in no way stronger than Blue Marvel. Since Blue is Damn near Sentry level and Sentry would spank Superman. Blue being a half step behind Sentry outs him squarely at Superman's best. And, Blue EM is played up quite a bit. He will use it as much as he uses his strength and cosmic awareness. Monica and Hal could either way. But If you switch partners, Superman will have a damn hard time Monica because she could easily be Knite radiation or Red Sunlight while Blue will beat the shot out of Hal. Marvel 7/10.
97
ICT / Re: Blue Marvel and Monica vs Hal Jordan and Superman
« Last post by Pillow Biter on Today at 06:23:48 AM »
Versatility is highly overrated in actual comics. Neither Blue Marvel's energy manipulation nor Superman's speed advantage is likely to be decisive--and that would be true even if BM didn't have any super speed of his own. Comics are just like that. So it's mostly a question of power and skill, with comics typically rewarding skill less for powerful characters than for lower level ones. You rarely see hth skill letting the less powerful top tier brick beat the more powerful one. It happens, but not that often. Wonder Woman is one of the few powerhouses who really get credited for their skill. Orion almost never does. Doesn't matter much for Thor. Etc. Lip service is paid, but it rarely seems to change things much.

I think Superman has more raw power than BM. You clearly disagree.

As for Hal, it really is hard to rate him right now. He had his fight with Zod, which may have been thrown. And he's definitely been doing well in the GL books. But heroes often get pushed or even explicitly powered-up in their own books, and it doesn't really stick or catch on. In the end, the real measure of improved standing is in team books, big events, and in the pages of other heroes' books.

So until Hal starts consistently being presented as more powerful than he was before in the abovementioned types of instances, I still rate him where he was in the New 52, but more experienced. Basically, he's a notch below DC's ultra-heavyweight flying bricks in terms of combat formidibility. Wonder Woman, Superman, Martian Manhunter, Mon-El, Black Adam, etc. would all be favored over him and all other GLs 1v1, to varying degrees.

I think that is basically the level Monica operates on now over at Marvel. She's a level below Gladiator, Thor, The Silver Surfer, Blue Marvel, the Hulk, etc.

So I think it's a pretty even fight on a normal day. But I think that Superman is stronger than Blue Marvel on the day-to-day, and has the proven potential of being much stronger on a good day. Under most writers, Superman's power is more dynamic than that of most heroes, though the degree of variability and the mechanism underlying the dynamism vary.

As their power depends on their willpower at the current moment, I believe GLs have naturally dynamic power, though this hasn't really been explicitly laid out to my knowledge. Still, I think the comics bear this out. They are naturally more variable in power than most characters. Nevertheless, I still don't think that even Hal Jordan is typically in what is often called the 'Elite Top Tier' level in raw power. He's in Monica's tier, though I'd still give him the edge in power and skill given how much more experienced and savvy he's become since his cocky New 52 beginnings.

98
General Chat / Re: Family vacation part 50: here we go again
« Last post by Riv1 on Today at 06:20:36 AM »
No sane person has kids to begin with.
99
ICT / Re: Dr. Fate and Black Adam vs Thor and Silver Surfer
« Last post by Pillow Biter on Today at 06:05:29 AM »
Yeah. Yeah. In theory.

But in practice, the original Crisis is a serious dividing line. Flashpoint and Rebirth perhaps less so. No one is really going to be using pre-Crisis showings to argue on ICT, and for pretty good reason.

At any rate, assuming an experienced Fate portrayal, these guys are all on the same level, and are all pretty close to 50/50 against one another; so any pairing is pretty much 50 / 50 vs the other IMO (as power-set matchups and synergies aren't typically that big a deal in comic fights or hierarchies).

That said, as a mage, Fate tends to be the most variable with respect to his power level. Fate's specific comics support this comic-wide trend. So any team with Fate on it could be seriously favored when everyone is at their best, but the underdog when everyone is at their worst.

Fate having a degree of intrinsic invulnerability helps limit his low-end, somewhat, of course.
100
ICT / Re: Dr. Fate and Black Adam vs Thor and Silver Surfer
« Last post by fangirl101 on Today at 05:53:44 AM »
Which Fate? When? The idea of fully healthy, in his prime, Kent Nelson as being the quintessential and most powerful Fate is problematic in that there really aren't many Post-Crisis showings for that version of Fate.
They are all one. The time lines keep getting merged into one long stream. Kent is the same guy pre and post.
Pages: 1 ... 8 9 [10]