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 on: Today at 02:20:48 PM 
Started by Uhtceare - Last post by Pillow Biter
I'm not sure were very far off, Scourge. But I don't think the tradition 'out of 10' system works well here to describe the dynamic of the fight.
There's basically always been two Supermen, thematically--the Superhero to Superhero Superman and the First Amongst Equals Superman, designed to more easily fit into teams and work with other heroes. Most of the time, the latter shows up. But when the former shows up, he'll typically beat two elite top tiers (or more) decisively. So it's basically a question of deciding how likely it is for either variant to show up in such a fight.
And, of course, the Marvels' special history of being Superman's equal does weigh in on the above question--though that tradition has been weakening for quite a while. Finally, magic adds an X factor.

 on: Today at 02:17:14 PM 
Started by Uhtceare - Last post by Uhtceare
Thor wears the belt of strength and swings the hammer around for fifteen seconds to build momentum and charge it up before swinging it forward.

At the same time, Superman sundips and flies forward in a punching-ram pose as fast as he can.

Superman's fist and Thor's hammer collide. What happens?

 on: Today at 01:59:47 PM 
Started by Uhtceare - Last post by scourge
I don't think its a clean sweep total shut out in favor of the team. I do think Superman could take 1-2/10. 2 if I'm being generous, but that's still an obvious clean win for the team though impressive for Superman that he'd even get that much.

 on: Today at 01:55:00 PM 
Started by Uhtceare - Last post by Pillow Biter
That's not exactly fair. Superman has a consistent tradition of being able to dial it up to another level--for whatever reason--that Cap and Black Adam rarely match. Aside from WWIII--in which Adam may or may not have been powered up--how often do you see a Shazammer shown at a level where he can beat down another elite top tier with ease, or succeed versus groups of elite top tiers? This happens with Superman relatively often.
So, while I do give the team the win a lot more often than not, it's by no means out of the question for Superman to win--even to win decisively.

 on: Today at 01:50:04 PM 
Started by Uhtceare - Last post by scourge

Obviously. Only way to say otherwise is to only count Superman's highs and dismiss everything else with various excuses something that only a... oh wait. Nevermind.

 on: Today at 01:43:01 PM 
Started by Uhtceare - Last post by Tarugo
Hmmm.... anyway, I dropped reading the new WW. The story-line became to convoluted for me with Rucka forcing readers to accept the new truth that the entire life of Diana was a lie. This would have been good for a novel but not when you are trying to welcome comic readers into the WW Rebirth. Guess he missed the bus on this.

 on: Today at 01:38:34 PM 
Started by Uhtceare - Last post by 80sBaby
What about the new version of Superman suggests he will be consistently portrayed on a higher power level than before?


.. the fact that he has relative combat showings showing superior relative stats than ever?

What showings, post merger, are greater feats than either had, pre?

So, still nothing then?

 on: Today at 01:33:07 PM 
Started by Master Tolkien - Last post by NeoGreenLantern
Holding her own as in not instantly becoming a liability in a fight.

 on: Today at 12:37:06 PM 
Started by Master Tolkien - Last post by AP
We already had Claire holding her own against The Hand so.

Are you talking about the China fight where they confronted Gao and her two mooks?  She scratched one dude on the arm with those claw-things and got knocked away.  Danny and Colleen did most of the work.  I wouldn't call that holding her own.

 on: Today at 12:36:19 PM 
Started by skyrider - Last post by Ramz
Superman has broken his arm in the past. Wolverine's whole thing is his unbreakable skeleton. Why the fuck is this 3 pages?

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