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ICT / Re: Immortal Hulk vs Superman challenge |Feat war/relative showings
« on: October 18, 2018, 05:30:19 PM »
Post DOS portrayals of DD portray him as having evolved to a tougher level.  Rebirth DD represents DD during DOS, not after.  No one is saying DOS, HP and DW are seperate entities.

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ICT / Re: Immortal Hulk vs Superman challenge |Feat war/relative showings
« on: October 17, 2018, 10:53:57 PM »
The DD from Rebirth is specifically stated to be physically equal to the original DD from DOS; just more savvy.

He is H/P-DD Wars-OWAW Doomsday.

All of Superman’s references and comparisons compare this DD to the DD that kills him.  This DD arrives in the same burial attire that DD originally is wearing in DOS and clearly represents that portrayal.

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ICT / Re: Immortal Hulk vs Superman challenge |Feat war/relative showings
« on: October 17, 2018, 10:49:02 PM »
The DD from Rebirth is specifically stated to be physically equal to the original DD from DOS; just more savvy.
No, he is stated to maybe stronger, faster and more savage than Doomsday he faced earlier

Doesn’t say “stronger”.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/1bpAZ4RZyJ5uhK0QEXSZqdGBME76jE02OcXrg09Adi999DdoAKCGBtmsWOGwpXUgzWJAB5WwIpgX=s1600

States that he is the same unrelenting force.  No more, no less.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/eDHGMJoGi_XGJNS0HqB9TmP-TIfsb-MfFwP6FXtD3rZ088CNOFuR9ZjRaxJytzySML3OuxOCNJdc=s1600







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ICT / Re: Immortal Hulk vs Superman challenge |Feat war/relative showings
« on: October 17, 2018, 09:41:27 AM »
The DD from Rebirth is specifically stated to be physically equal to the original DD from DOS; just more savvy.

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ICT / Re: Immortal Hulk vs Superman challenge |Feat war/relative showings
« on: October 17, 2018, 06:56:25 AM »
Hulk is not Doomsday, in fact Hulk is vastly more superior to New-52 Doomsday, so much so that when that fight happened, even the writer said Hulk would beat SuperDoom, Superman amped on Doomsday virus.

https://www.cbr.com/pak-explores-the-humanity-of-clark-kent-in-superman-doomed/

The problem with all of Rebirth is that everyone is currently nerfed, no one operates at pre-52 levels or even new-52 levels. Superman almost dies to the heat of Earths core, gets rolled over by a steamroller, gets overwhelmed by a dinosaur, he is consistently been getting his ass kicked by Rogol and that guy is at most a city buster. Superman is getting better but it's a slow process and he is still far away from his pre-52 days.

That same DD is burned to a crisp by HV.  This incarnation’s adaptation makes his hard durability questionable. 

He was burned to a crisp by HV because All Out Mode  HV can incinerate Skyfather + level beings.

Continue to cry bitter tears about that fact.

Apparently not:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-5667598
What about it? That's Rebirth Superman, not new 52.
Doomsday was getting stronger by absorbing the energy.

His durability wasn't suspect, Steel's hammer shattered on Doomsday and Doomsday defeated both Mongul and Non (Mongul was beating Diana and oneshotted Xa Du who matched Superman under Morrison).

Superman was just that powerful under Lobdell when cutting loose.


.... why would n52 mongul and non be relevant to Immortal Hulk? they dont even have feats comparable to savage, or post breach core Hulk tf

 and ripping Doomsday has nothing to do with ripping Hulk if you want to actually know the specific writer that wrote that fight as well as SuperDoom(amped version of Superman), said Hulk would beat Superman and SuperDoom https://www.cbr.com/pak-explores-the-humanity-of-clark-kent-in-superman-doomed/
Pak didn't write Superman ripping Doomsday in half, it was Scott Lobdell.

Pak being an idiot means nothing here.

The two Supermen are stated to be equals.

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ICT / Re: Immortal Hulk vs Superman challenge |Feat war/relative showings
« on: October 16, 2018, 07:03:23 PM »
Hulk is not Doomsday, in fact Hulk is vastly more superior to New-52 Doomsday, so much so that when that fight happened, even the writer said Hulk would beat SuperDoom, Superman amped on Doomsday virus.

https://www.cbr.com/pak-explores-the-humanity-of-clark-kent-in-superman-doomed/

The problem with all of Rebirth is that everyone is currently nerfed, no one operates at pre-52 levels or even new-52 levels. Superman almost dies to the heat of Earths core, gets rolled over by a steamroller, gets overwhelmed by a dinosaur, he is consistently been getting his ass kicked by Rogol and that guy is at most a city buster. Superman is getting better but it's a slow process and he is still far away from his pre-52 days.

That same DD is burned to a crisp by HV.  This incarnation’s adaptation makes his hard durability questionable. 

He was burned to a crisp by HV because All Out Mode  HV can incinerate Skyfather + level beings.

Continue to cry bitter tears about that fact.

Apparently not:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-5667598

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ICT / Re: Immortal Hulk vs Superman challenge |Feat war/relative showings
« on: October 15, 2018, 10:25:39 PM »
Hulk is not Doomsday, in fact Hulk is vastly more superior to New-52 Doomsday, so much so that when that fight happened, even the writer said Hulk would beat SuperDoom, Superman amped on Doomsday virus.

https://www.cbr.com/pak-explores-the-humanity-of-clark-kent-in-superman-doomed/

The problem with all of Rebirth is that everyone is currently nerfed, no one operates at pre-52 levels or even new-52 levels. Superman almost dies to the heat of Earths core, gets rolled over by a steamroller, gets overwhelmed by a dinosaur, he is consistently been getting his ass kicked by Rogol and that guy is at most a city buster. Superman is getting better but it's a slow process and he is still far away from his pre-52 days.

That same DD is burned to a crisp by HV.  This incarnation’s adaptation makes his hard durability questionable. 

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ICT / Re: Immortal Hulk vs Superman challenge |Feat war/relative showings
« on: October 15, 2018, 09:59:49 PM »
Superman rebuilt the moon while having a conversation with Batman and overpowered a army.  Obvious Superman and Hulk are above most heroes in their respective universes. 

That said we all know this will be another spat fest between  Goken and Jelly.

he overloaded an army of random kryptonians with no feats how is that impressive

Are we talking about the army of beastly looking creatures?  Are those Kryptonians?  Or are they creatures imprisoned by Kryptonians? Like Rogol Zaar, I thought they were alien creatures who despise Kryptonians.

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Is Donny Cates any good? If Bill or Surfer make the team I might actually pick this up.

Cates likes to shake up continuity.  He linked the symbiots to the necrosword, gave Thanos an originally intended name, etc.  He has a following and his books sell.

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This is some real fire power.


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ICT / Re: Wonder Woman vs Thor | Better fighter/Who's more skilled?
« on: September 27, 2018, 11:43:31 AM »
When has Herc dominated Thor? 

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ICT / Re: New comic stuff worth talking about but not worth its own thread
« on: September 26, 2018, 08:26:01 PM »
So Sentry and Void have come together to form a new Sentry.


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ICT / Re: Batman vs Luke Cage
« on: September 14, 2018, 11:14:10 PM »
Cage has beaten Iron Fist and Sabretooth.

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Absolutely.


prove it

Tearing Doomsday in half. Every encounter  before he barely could hold his own. Womder Woman got upgraded vastly and it is mentioned and shown and he is still stronger than her. She was a 9 to his 10 before. In order to be ahead of her now he would have to be also vastly upgraded.

From OWAW through Apokolips Now a few years later, Superman repeatedly kicks Darkseid’s ass, yet can’t even touch Darkseid in New 52.  So Superman must be weaker.
After FC Didnt Darksied merge his selves and avatars?

Not that I’m aware of.

And after the Doomsday rip, Superman fights DOS Doomsday about as well as he does before.

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Absolutely.

prove it

Tearing Doomsday in half. Every encounter  before he barely could hold his own. Womder Woman got upgraded vastly and it is mentioned and shown and he is still stronger than her. She was a 9 to his 10 before. In order to be ahead of her now he would have to be also vastly upgraded.

From OWAW through Apokolips Now a few years later, Superman repeatedly kicks Darkseid’s ass, yet can’t even touch Darkseid in New 52.  So Superman must be weaker.

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