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Debate / Re: Should democrats run on gun control as part of thier platform
« on: February 20, 2018, 08:52:37 PM »
I dont think the Majorty of guns owner are like that
Again most for some gun control...by like a LARGE amount


But during obama yes..have heard screaming about him taking guns away. And people ads for it.  Havent heard many politians talking about taking all your guns away. It would be political suicide to say such thing

But it not even extreme sides.  Both sides kind of on agreement on a lot of things

But the NRA no longer represent gun owners..they represent gun manufactures
The republicans are brought off
And the dems are pussies

Was watching hardball and they had some Dems on. He ask "Ok what would you do to change gun laws"
And he didnt give an Answer. He just Jump around about both side should work together

And of course Chris ask...come together on what..what would you pushed..would you make the age 21..what
Agian dude wouldnt answer...he was affraid to suggest ANYTHING

Then it was Dems in state like PA, or purple state. All saying they affriad to push the gun issue there.  But even in those state their some gun control stuff that polls well. Sure you dont run as far left as you would in say  NY. But your not going to win running as a republican. They know you have a D in front of your name.

Play offense. Make the other side explain why lessening the restiction on metally ill people getitng weapons is a good thing. Which trump totaly did

There are popular positions. Some polls in the 90's. Reather or not ending slavery was a good thing doesnt poll that high


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Debate / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: February 20, 2018, 03:54:16 PM »
I was assume  we have posters here working for the deep state to discredit a lot of conspircies. No in particular of course.

But really people got to get smart. People hate the media...but love their particual media. Which really just a Bubble. Facebook, twitter, and google to some extent basicly their to tell you want you want to hear. Which easy to manipulate.

Every source has a bias, so one should listen to more then one source

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Debate / Re: Should democrats run on gun control as part of thier platform
« on: February 20, 2018, 03:48:07 PM »
Well what hold it up is the slippery slope argument. That any change will eventully lead to taking away your guns

And really sure theortecilly it could..but that not reason alone not to do it. You cross those bridge when you come to it

Also the term gun control somehow became Toxic..to saying no guns at all.  Which why if you put it as just gun controll it doesnt poll that great, but different type of gun control does. Because really you sit down with most gun owner...they will agree to something. Which means their for gun control. Just the particulars and name are what fucks them up


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Debate / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:21:32 PM »
This is hilarious. In America, people get booted off social media for trolling, sometimes they get fixed and fired from their jobs. In Russia, trolls get paid, get praised for helping their government, and probably get laid for doing so.

I expect Russia to start recruiting A-list American trolls in the near future.

That because Russian trolls...are strong, manly, and fed on the breast milk of mother Russia

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Debate / Should democrats run on gun control as part of thier platform
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:18:32 PM »
A lot of type of gun control are popular

But people affraid to push it because people who love guns vote on that issue
People who want gun control Dont

It not a guranteed win
Although a lot of guns owners agree to some basic gun control. some stuff by a good majaroty

Have times change..where dems can push these thing. Where young people actully voting on this issue

also that guy on secular talk made a point. This is one of the times they dont actully have the same donors  on this one. So it not like issue where they would piss off thier master. Republicans push harder for stuff they want. Republicans push to repeal obama care 60 times and dont seem to care of some thing unpopular. Dems fail on the bill and like  "Fuck it"
And there not like this a paid to fail thing. Their failing for free.

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Debate / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: February 19, 2018, 09:22:09 PM »
I was wathcing Msnbc

Heard other mention that Bernie didnt ask for help, and straight up didnt want it


Think the Russians just back anyone who they thought was a threat to Trump. And just simply didnt see Bernie or  Jill as a threat rightly or wrongly

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Debate / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: February 18, 2018, 10:23:48 AM »
Do you think none of our gun problems would have happened without trolls?  What’s the difference between an American NRA troll and some Russian troll?

Beside that is a foreign nation fucking with us, their on both sides playing them against each other.

Its a more orgnaizes effort to make multiple sides looks bad.    By posing as those sides


Put it this way. Say you have a left wing that want to evinormental regulations...and against the pipeline

So if you want to make them look bad. Wait till the storm, it always happens every year and have people say  "hhaha your guys died in a storm..maybe next time beleave in globarl warming"

"Or good....this is good maybe theyn stop fracking...glad those guys water was poision...the dumb red neck fucks"

And just saying crazy shit..maybe scream fuck whitie..why your doing it. Maybe orgnazie marches...with radical shit..saying coal miners should be killed, or Cruz wife looks like an ugly whore. And just do that shit all day.

Then have some on the other side go "You see what these CRAZY fucks are doing" Then mixed it in with a lie...that they actully commiting violence. And thus you kileld a movement.  Maybe say some insulting shit about the enviormentalist that thier communies..which cause them to strike back verbally

And it one big cluster fuck on both sides. Since they prone to beleave any bad thing about each other..ANYWAY. It easy to do. Just create troll farms that just flood this shit.

Well, people getting paranoid and calling me a Russian bot when I suggest not voting for a candidate who's in favor of fracking doesn't help.  The establishment benefits from us being divided.

and calling people a sale out, or corpartist whore for saying hmmm maybe some place minium wage shouldnt be 15 should depends on the area of that place. Ever side has thier share of assholes

The Russian goals..is to make those asshole seem like a larger amount of them...and put them against them

You can dislike the establisment...and also be aware of people using social engineering to lie and manipulate you


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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Gotham By Gaslight
« on: February 18, 2018, 10:12:20 AM »
Well it suprise me because I read the comic

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Chris Rock got a new stand up on netlfix
« on: February 18, 2018, 10:11:11 AM »
Just saw it was on

Damm...Netflix sometime dont give a shit about advertising

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Gotham By Gaslight
« on: February 18, 2018, 02:23:20 AM »
Anyone see it


I really like it

Not sure about the twist

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Debate / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: February 18, 2018, 01:43:11 AM »
Do you think none of our gun problems would have happened without trolls?  What’s the difference between an American NRA troll and some Russian troll?

Beside that is a foreign nation fucking with us, their on both sides playing them against each other.

Its a more orgnaizes effort to make multiple sides looks bad.    By posing as those sides


Put it this way. Say you have a left wing that want to evinormental regulations...and against the pipeline

So if you want to make them look bad. Wait till the storm, it always happens every year and have people say  "hhaha your guys died in a storm..maybe next time beleave in globarl warming"

"Or good....this is good maybe theyn stop fracking...glad those guys water was poision...the dumb red neck fucks"

And just saying crazy shit..maybe scream fuck whitie..why your doing it. Maybe orgnazie marches...with radical shit..saying coal miners should be killed, or Cruz wife looks like an ugly whore. And just do that shit all day.

Then have some on the other side go "You see what these CRAZY fucks are doing" Then mixed it in with a lie...that they actully commiting violence. And thus you kileld a movement.  Maybe say some insulting shit about the enviormentalist that thier communies..which cause them to strike back verbally

And it one big cluster fuck on both sides. Since they prone to beleave any bad thing about each other..ANYWAY. It easy to do. Just create troll farms that just flood this shit.

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Debate / What your stance of Wikileaks as a whole
« on: February 16, 2018, 03:26:50 PM »
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/julian-assange-wikileaks-election-clinton-trump/




  Think they do some good..but it times to stop pretending thier an unbias group..who simply report everything as is. We all got our bias...their no different.  Doubt they going to attack the GOP hard any time soon. Even though GOP leaking like crazy..those leaks wont come from Wikileaks...even though Trump not above fucking with stuff like privacy, and other rights


When it comes to the idea it be better if the GOP to win for progressive. That only works if Trump fucks up enough to get people mad. And you shouldnt actily root for your country to be fucked up


First off the whole...Trump would be better because it would united the progressive...always was faulty

Remember bloggers saying it be cool will just filibusrer the supreme court for 4 fucking years

  As this progressive spring that suspose to come up. Seem both of the opposition hating on each other. Since it the idea..anymore who back Hillary is Persona non Grata  even if they did it after the primary. And you got moderate screaming at progressive calling them children..and blaming them for Trump. Which what ever you think about the truth of both sides..not really helpfull. Becuase it not enough of either side winning the election. I know people THINK that helps...but it dpesmt

Even the Justice Democrat fighting among each other of Social stuff. 2 of the sponders had to resign over kind of Bullshit. SJW shit.  But then there a part of the community who confuse actully terrible polices that effect certain groups as SJW shit. When really it is legit effect on people lives and money.

so dont see this big force that was supose to spring up

Even if you talking about voting 3rd party. Well they actully got to get out in the lower election and vote 3rd party so they have some damm infranstructure..and not just wait till the general. Which history shown they wont.  Or hell come out in the primary. You have time to register right now. Do it now...do it right now.

nor is it great stragedy

Dont think they should put up someone as centrist as Clinto. But that said dont see any issue big with running a campaign in Alabama differently then you would in California...but you get called a neo liberal for that shit

find if the dems put someone like Joe macnhin vs Trump.  Or hell even booker who the new whipping boy...can see wanting to stay home

But if it someone like say Warren or Even Biden..and you still think it to much like voting for the lesser of two evils...your kind of just being a stuborn at that point.

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Think the issue is...MOST new character fail.  White or black. Hard to introduce a new character.  Even when they replace a old one.  Since a write who like the old ones will replace the news ones sooner or later. Barry and Hal for instance back in the picutre..becuase those writers like the silver age. Even though find barry boring as fuck in the comis. That why in a TV,cartoons, and movie..he kind of acts like Wally..because that the more fun character. So it has to be somehwhat unorganic if your introducing people in a world that been around for decades. Sometime they shit the bed

Look at all the shitty...bloodline character we had to get to get one Hitman. So you got a few ms Americas. But the new spiderman got some staying power.. And the others that dont do as well, well you can play around in the future. I mean Jon Stewart at first was just an angry black guy saying shit like this



But later now you got a good character to play with. An extra toy in the toy box

It just worst when you holding an entire race on the character back.  Since if that shits the bed no one goes..hey maybe that story..it no one wants diversity or your forcing it down our throats

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