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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - spoilers inside
« on: March 08, 2019, 01:00:31 PM »
I'm sorry you're mad that I didn't like a movie you did and wrongly labelled it as anti-war in the process.
You can dislike whatever you want, but at least watch it first.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - No Spoilers
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:59:56 PM »
So think of the most average Marvel movie there is.

Is this that movie?
Hmmm... Maybe. It has highs and lows, but I think that ranking wouldn't be far off.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - No Spoilers
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:56:12 PM »
Oh yeah, I'm thinking of all the X-Men ones you hated. Yet somehow you liked the first two.

I think they are mediocre and overrated aside from X1, X2, the Deadpools, and Logan, yes.  Hate is a strong word, but I don't see the big appeal, either.  In fact, let's take a look at these movies I feel are mediocre.  We got X3, Apocalypse, and Origins which are generally not liked by most fans.  I share the consensus there.  First Class and DOFP are the only shockers, really.  Maybe The Wolverine?  I liked it up until the Silver Samurai/quasi-Iron Man stuff and the cheesy version of Madame Hydra but I remember a lot of people having an issue with those aspects.

It's kinda weird that you would claim I hate all superhero movies when it really boiled down to me not liking a single series all that much.  I mean, I dislike The Transformer series but are you going to now make a blanket statement that I hate all sci-fi movies?

Also, keep in mind that I haven't seen Captain Marvel yet so I might end up loving it aside from this one scene.
It's kinda weird because I attributed something to you that was incorrect. Then I corrected it in the post you responded to.

The movie is good, but not as good as it can and should be.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - spoilers inside
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:52:37 PM »
Once again, an assertion without an argument.

A bad movie can involve a morally justified revenge story, although from an anti-war perspective (which is what you claim this movie is), there are many things wrong with it. It's morally justified to intervene, but maybe not in the manner Captain Marvel did.

Let's say this was a real world scenario. I wouldn't be happy knowing super humans were going around the galaxy overthrowing planets and regimes without expecting unintended consequences, especially without any type of oversight from literally anyone. Could that result in other interstellar nations wanting to intervene in Earth? Who knows because Carol Danvers doesn't have to ask anyone.
You didn't actually make an argument. You just posted incoherent thoughts based on some really bad information you received.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - spoilers inside
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:38:37 PM »
Intervening in galaxies far away to stop genocides may be morally justified, but it isnt anti-war.

Giving Nick Fury a hacked phone because she became a hacker inbetween no told storyline to call her for emergenies (battle) isnt anti war.

And again, shes justified but it wasnt anti war. What about the Kree planet after she overthrows them? How many people does she plan on killing? Civillian casualties? Are there any innocence? Whose to judge? Did she consult with other planetary bodies and get a consensus?

Justified, but not anti war.
What? Coupling this with your last post is painting an odd picture of how your brain connects information.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - spoilers inside
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:14:53 PM »
I don't agree with your 'clarifications'.  I believe you saw the movie but were you sober while you watched it?
Definitely watched it sober. I don't get drunk in the middle of the week without a good excuse.

You probably disagree with me pointing out facts because they're from the movie though. I think if you saw it you'd understand where your analogies collapse entirely.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - spoilers inside
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:10:08 PM »
Are you getting mad that I didn't like a film you like? Anti-war films don't end with war being the solution. Obviously she was against the Kree war.


No, I'm trying to figure out if you really watched the movie. You got a lot of details wrong for somebody claiming to have seen it. Like somebody else watched it and told you what happened.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - spoilers inside
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:05:44 PM »
Altoon, the scene where the Skrull was reunited with his family and children that were on the hidden ship on Earth's orbit and the Skrulls continued to explain there's more families like them separated. The cheeky line about borders by Captain Marvel soon after made it clear what they were referencing.

Xerxes, I did not see this movie as an anti-war movie, surprised you had that perspective honestly. The film ended with Captain Marvel declaring war on all of them. I never even understood the Kree's objective for genociding the Skrulls after they booted them from their homes (aside from the ones chasing looking for the Tesseract), the point Ronan was willing to destroy Earth merely because a few stranders were on the planet.

And specifically, what enemies were bigger than the characters? None that I saw on screen. You can let your imagination run wild on who was on those warships, but there was never any hint that an uninhibited Captain Marvel was in any danger or had any threats. You can use the Thor 1 movie was an example like Neo did, but whats the point when Thor 1 was an excessively mediocre movie saved by the fact it was an early attempt at making a universe work?


You didn't see the movie repeatedly referring to an unjust war supported by media propaganda being an anti-war movie? Did you really watch the movie? Be honest.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - No Spoilers
« on: March 08, 2019, 11:55:12 AM »
Oh yeah, I'm thinking of all the X-Men ones you hated. Yet somehow you liked the first two.

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ICT / Re: Movie Wonder Woman vs. Movie Captain Marvel
« on: March 08, 2019, 11:49:12 AM »
Thor, Hulk, and Superman are likely the only heroes who could even affect Captain Marvel. She's far stronger and faster than Diana.

Wonder Woman will have to stick to being stronger in the comics.
Let's see how fast Diana is in WW 1984 when the main villian is a Flash like character. Snd of course DC will just give Diana strength feats to exceed CM since Diana is the premier female comics ICON. They won't let this terrible mockery of comics Hierarchy to stand.
AN AMAZON HORDE ON AN OPEN FIELD!

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - No Spoilers
« on: March 08, 2019, 11:48:10 AM »
The eye part was handled like the arm in Hot Tub Time Machine. I thought it worked.

Oh, well when you say it like that, it sounds fucking terrible.
I can't recall the last superhero movie you even liked without some of Astro's vanilla seasoning.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - spoilers inside
« on: March 08, 2019, 11:43:10 AM »
1) Government surveillance is an age old modern question and both sides of the argument were presented (Iron Man, MCU's biggest character, was on the government's side). This was more propaganda. AND AGAIN, I hate Trump's immigration views. I believe we should have essentially open immigration (a more humane Ellis Island) while also having border security. But why is propaganda in these type of films?
You're attributing this to Trump somehow, but an indictment on endless wars and hiding that they're attacking civilians and refugees is unfortunately very a much a part of the Republican and Democrat practices. Trump is continuing many of those policies.

2) It wasn't just leaving people without a home. The Kree, for some reason, was literally hunting down every single ones. The families were separated, like migrant children, and at one point Captain Marvel even insults the enemies and calls them border lovers (or whatever she said) .
You're projecting this into a Trump thing when people fighting in an actual war getting separated from their families existed before Trump.

If they were getting separated from their families trying to emigrate to Earth or Xandar something your analogy might hold even a little water.

3) Not every movie needs a big fight but there should always be an enemy potentially bigger than the character. Ronin ran away, the Supreme Intelligence wasn't even a match for chip restrained Captain Marvel, Judd Law's character got one-shotted.
There were enemies potentially bigger than the character. Then she destroyed one of their massive warships and they shit their pants.

The Supreme Intelligence was fighting her remotely. She won by overloading the inhibitor chip (pretty damn common in SciFi/Fantasy) and then destroying the physical interface with her powers.


After Captain Marvel's chip is removed, she can essentially do anything including traveling galaxies (she never had training to use her powers, it was always to limit her powers). Felt very Rei-esque, and similarities with the Last Jedi should be a no-no with MCU movies.
She was directly connected to the tesseract and flying around in space wasn't an issue. Traveling elsewhere would be the easiest application of her powerset, especially because she was a pilot who spent her whole life wanting to go faster and hit harder.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Captain Marvel - spoilers inside
« on: March 08, 2019, 11:30:12 AM »
1) Government surveillance is an age old modern question and both sides of the argument were presented (Iron Man, MCU's biggest character, was on the government's side). This was more propaganda. AND AGAIN, I hate Trump's immigration views. I believe we should have essentially open immigration (a more humane Ellis Island) while also having border security. But why is propaganda in these type of films?

2) It wasn't just leaving people without a home. The Kree, for some reason, was literally hunting down every single ones. The families were separated, like migrant children, and at one point Captain Marvel even insults the enemies and calls them border lovers (or whatever she said) .

3) Not every movie needs a big fight but there should always be an enemy potentially bigger than the character. Ronin ran away, the Supreme Intelligence wasn't even a match for chip restrained Captain Marvel, Judd Law's character got one-shotted.

After Captain Marvel's chip is removed, she can essentially do anything including traveling galaxies (she never had training to use her powers, it was always to limit her powers). Felt very Rei-esque, and similarities with the Last Jedi should be a no-no with MCU movies.

Just an overall step down for a universe that has done so great.
So much of what you're saying here isn't actually based on facts from the movies you're referencing.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Re: Captain Marvel - No Spoilers
« on: March 08, 2019, 09:57:11 AM »
Captain Marvel basically fought aliens who was separating undocumented migrant children separated at the border. One thing I always loved about the MCU was how they stayed out of politics. I hate Trump's immigration views but this was a straight up rebuke of Trump's policies which is what I dont want in an MCU movie and something we haven't dealt with before.

No big bad guy fight, often super cringey, yes she became a Mary Sue, slow ass pacing, and overall just felt like a step down.

Nick Fury young was amazing though (effects wise).

5.7/10 for me.

That's a huge reach on pretty much every point you just tried to make.

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ICT / Re: Movie Wonder Woman vs. Movie Captain Marvel
« on: March 08, 2019, 09:54:26 AM »
Thor, Hulk, and Superman are likely the only heroes who could even affect Captain Marvel. She's far stronger and faster than Diana.

Wonder Woman will have to stick to being stronger in the comics.

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