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Showcase of the Immortals / Re: UPW 14 Rd. 5
« on: January 19, 2019, 09:45:15 PM »
Side note, who did Pentagon lose to?

Flair

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Showcase of the Immortals / Re: UPW 14 Rd. 5
« on: January 19, 2019, 09:44:27 PM »
1: 'Big Daddy Cool' Diesel ( Though I prefer Braun. But I can't see him beating WCW Goldberg, even cheating. )
2: The Rock
3: Antonio Inoki
4: Kane
5: Mitsuharu Misawa  ( Fantastic matchup. )
6: Eddie Guerrero
7: Tatsumi Fujinami
8: Cesaro
9: Batista
10: Andrade 'Cien' Almas
11: Edge ( Another great one. Edge has beaten virtually everyone from the E's deepest toughest era. That is enough here imo. )
12: Chris Jericho
13: Rob Van Dam
14: The Ultimate Warrior
15: 'Big Poppa Pump' Scott Steiner
16: The Great Muta ( Would like to pick Rusev, but can't. )
17: Booker T
18: Chris Benoit ( grumbles )
19: Sheamus
20: Roman Reigns
21: 'Dr. Death' Steve Williams  ( This would be pretty awesome. )
22: Triple H ( Happy Monty had a good run. )
23: The Miz ( Miz at least touched the top. Razor didn't quite make it. )
24: 'Phenomenal' AJ Styles  ( I know Joe has a winning record overall vs AJ. But AJ's WWE run JUST puts him over for me. )
25: Harley Race
26: Randy Orton  ( grumbles again )

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Showcase of the Immortals / Re: UPW 14 Rd. 4
« on: January 19, 2019, 05:58:21 PM »
ya know what? just to make sure we got ties broken here I'mma let Wyntyr here do a special vote.

Yeah, that is a good move. Everyone goes over cleanly this way.

( On a related note, I have to say I am pretty surprised at one of the current ties. )

which one would that be?

Bryan vs Strowman. Granting I have been watching less lately so maybe I have missed something. But despite the size difference, I just can't see Strowman typically winning. Not when Bryan's better stuff is taken into account.

Bryan wins his share of money matches. Strowman is practically the Buffalo Bills of wrestling.

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Showcase of the Immortals / Re: UPW 14 Rd. 4
« on: January 19, 2019, 03:14:13 PM »
ya know what? just to make sure we got ties broken here I'mma let Wyntyr here do a special vote.

Yeah, that is a good move. Everyone goes over cleanly this way.

( On a related note, I have to say I am pretty surprised at one of the current ties. )

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Debate / Re: Tulsi Gabbard is running for President
« on: January 17, 2019, 01:38:25 PM »
Any candidate that is perceived as a threat to neverending corporate control of America's policies on the military, healthcare, energy, etc. is going to get shitfucked by corporate controlled and funded media. Sanders has and will get it harder than Tulsi has. And she will get crapped on even moreso if she actually becomes a major threat. Or is a VP candidate.

These are essentially the same sources that ignore or play down the massive destruction that America's policies have enabled in the middle east. ( And other areas ftm. ) It took them how long to acknowledge that the U.S. has been helping a backwards regime kill children and other innocent civilians in Yemen after all.

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Debate / Re: Will Trump go down as the worst president ever?
« on: January 13, 2019, 01:59:48 PM »
I guess I am tired of the keeping decorum facade because it is used to hide vile things by Republicans, and bypass addressing tough issues by Democrats.

Just look at Pelosi and Schumer's speech the other day. Even though most of what they say is correct, they are such bad delivers of the message that they don't aid it's resonance. Now compare that to AOC or Sanders, who just tell it flat out. But the Dems $$$ establishment and big media want to silence them as much as possible. Even though the people who are turned off by them largely aren't voting Democratic anyway.

All the foot kissing and propaganda by the Donnelly/McCaskill/Heitkamp types still adds up to them losing to Republicans. While lecturing that the party has to follow their path even moreso.

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Debate / Re: Will Trump go down as the worst president ever?
« on: January 13, 2019, 01:02:39 PM »
I honestly don't think many Republicans in congress have many morals left. Even the ones that disapprove of Trump's methods will generally vote with him the vast majority of times.

It's like their message is " Uphold decorum while you vote to kill people, or ruin America/the world. " The GOP has been morphing into cartoonish villains for decades now. That wasn't begun by Trump. He is just the next phrase in the monster's evolution.

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Debate / Re: Tulsi Gabbard is running for President
« on: January 13, 2019, 12:47:43 PM »
Um, Biden's not that bad. I mean, he did a lot of good with The Obama Administration. Heck, a lot of gay rights that happened was because of Biden.

And he actually is a good person. And the real difference is a reasonable intelligent adult vs a psychopathic manchild who is a possible traitor to his country.

Of course, it could be I just don't care because whoever the Dems put out will be automatically be better than Trump.

The corporate Dems usually emphasize things like gay rights, abortion, or even just returning to protocol or manners. That way they can sell the notion they are the good guys while not actually doing much to address longterm problems or upset the wealthy donor system.

It doesn't help that he signed off on almost all of Bill Clinton's errors of the 90's. Or that the few statements he's made in recent years suggest he is pretty tone deaf about where the nation is going.

Biden 2020 is a road to a GOP wave in 2022. ( Possibly including a super majority in the senate. ) Likely followed by President Cruz or Haley ( or someone similarly odious ) in 2024.

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Debate / Re: Tulsi Gabbard is running for President
« on: January 13, 2019, 01:39:52 AM »
If Biden wins, America loses no matter who wins the general.

It's basically the difference between being devoured quickly and violently ( Trump. ) Or being slowly strangled to death ( "not middle class" Joe. )

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Debate / Re: Tulsi Gabbard is running for President
« on: January 13, 2019, 01:27:18 AM »
Tulsi has been my top pick for a while.  The Dems will likely try to screw her over and we’ll end up with Trump for four more years.


This, or the nation will see Biden or a like corporate Dem shill win. Who then does what corporate sell outs do, promptly leading to a Republican wave in 2022. Followed by President Pence/Cruz/Haley/Ryan in 2024. Effectively ending any pretense of American Democracy. Or first world status for many/most of it's citizens. 

But even then, the talking heads won't get it. By then, Dem bigwigs and mainstream media will be telling Americans about how Dems need to look to the days of "reasonable" ala The Clintons, Joe Donnelly, and Joseph Lieberman for guidance. To "save" America. When it is they who have helped craft the images of Reagan and Clinton. Who covered for the massive lies of Bush, Cheney, and the nation's war machine. And without whose help Trump would not be President right now.

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Debate / Re: Will Trump go down as the worst president ever?
« on: January 12, 2019, 03:30:25 PM »
Shitty as all this is, Trump is not going to be successfully removed from office.

https://theconversation.com/a-friendly-reminder-impeaching-donald-trump-will-not-remove-him-from-office-94369

A friendly reminder: impeaching Donald Trump will not remove him from office

That means that the charges or articles must be brought in the House and can pass with a simple majority. The trial, however, will take place in the Senate. “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present” (Article I, section 3). It is thus possible to remove a sitting president from office, but this procedure does not make it easy or likely given the political hold he has on his party. A two-thirds majority in the Senate means that 67 out of the 100 senators must vote in favour of conviction.

No way in hell are twenty Republican Senators voting to remove a guy that makes their big donors so happy.

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Debate / Re: Tulsi Gabbard is running for President
« on: January 11, 2019, 10:43:15 PM »
Trump is awful, but I'm not inclined to vote for more lackluster Clinton-esque 90's NeoLibs.

I'd vote for Warren. I'm willing to listen with someone like Harris. If the best they can do is Biden though, they don't really deserve to win.

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Showcase of the Immortals / Re: UPW 14 Rd. 4
« on: January 11, 2019, 10:26:22 PM »
Bracket 1

1: 'Rowdy' Roddy Piper
2: Daniel Bryan
3: Rikidozan
4: The Rock


Bracket 2

1: 'Earthquake
2: Antonio Inoki
3: Finn Balor
4: Kane



Bracket 3

1: Bruno Sammartino
2: Mitsuharu Misawa
3: Eddie Guerrero
4: Ricky the Dragon Steamboat



Bracket 4

1: Tatsumi Fujinami
2: Kerry Von Erich
3: Jeff Jarrett
4: High Chief Peter Maivia



Bracket 5

1: Magnus
2: Batista
3: Ricky Morton
4: Abyss



Bracket 6

1: Edge
2: Kenny Omega
3: Drew McIntyre
4: Chris Jericho


Bracket 7

1: Masahiro Chono
2: Rob Van Dam
3: The Ultimate Warrior
4: The Big Show



Bracket 8

1: 'Big Poppa Pump' Scott Steiner
2: 'Million Dollar Man' Ted Dibiase
3: The Great Muta
4: Rusev



Bracket 9

1: King Cuerno
2: Booker T
3: The Iron Sheik
4: Bobby Roode



Bracket 10

1: Road Warrior Hawk
2: Sheamus
3: Roman Reigns
4: Nikita Koloff



Bracket 11

1: Terry 'Bam Bam' Gordy
2: Mankind
3: Triple H
4: Hayabusa


Bracket 12

1: Razor Ramon
2: The Miz
3: Samoa Joe
4: 'Phenomenal' AJ Styles



Bracket 13

1: Sgt. Slaughter
2: John Bradshaw Layfield
3: Pedro Morales
4: 'The British Bulldog' Davey Boy Smith

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Debate / Re: Tulsi Gabbard is running for President
« on: January 11, 2019, 10:11:30 PM »

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Debate / Re: Tulsi Gabbard is running for President
« on: January 11, 2019, 09:14:16 PM »
Get ready for establishment news and backdoor deal making organizations like Third Way to go on another major smear campaign.

So they can stick voters with their Biden or Booker types. Thereby handing Trump the keys to another four years. While remaining willfully deaf to a changing electorate.

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