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ICT / Re: Jupiter Suit She Hulk
« on: Today at 11:28:29 PM »
Either Savage Hulk is w typically angrier than he was classically, he t a powerup, or Slott is lazy.

Possibly; but going by what they are saying Slott seemed to view Hulk as an "at least" Thanos level guy with his "standard/moderate" level rage.

ICT / Re: Jupiter Suit She Hulk
« on: Today at 01:52:49 AM »
Because saying she's weaker than a dynamic Hulk is kind of pointless; it only makes sense in reference "to" the Hulk's baseline.

Sorry but that's complete nonsense. Basically no-one apart from Handbook stat nerds ever refer to the Hulk's borderline-mythical "base" level (a completely calm Hulk is basically a contradiction in terms). I think it is more than safe to assume that Slott was referring to Hulk's fighting-mad strength, because that is a far more logical benchmark than a strength level that basically doesn't exist outside of Handbooks and Doc Samson.

Otherwise it comes down to whose more angry at any given day between her and her cousin; even in her normal levels really.

If Hulk is completely calm but something's got a bee in her bonnet and she's raging all psycho; yeah she'll be stronger.

I think you could count on one hand the number of non-Jupiter Suit era She Hulk appearances where she is even close to being in Bruce's ballpark. Her dynamic factor is nowhere near as pronounced as his.


Then it just doesn't make sense as a statement.

And of course her dynamic factor is nowhere near as pronounced as his.  She generally has nowhere near as much rage as he does.

When she goes all "Savage Hulk" she generally seems to be about the same level as Hulk himself; when she "killed" The Vision didn't she also have a pretty good fight with The Savage He-Hulk?

If it's just to say; she isn't as strong as a solid class 100 Hulk, did the writer mean that despite being notably stronger than Hercules that she was still weaker than Thor?

Pretty fair to assume the writer wasn't talking about the times when Hulk is going all "World Breaker" or Banger McCrusher on us.

So work under the assumption that it means a reasonably angry Hulk but not notably so.  So essentially a mid-high tier class 100 Hulk?

Was Jupiter-Suit She-Hulk just a low tier class 100?

ICT / Re: Bruce Banner vs Superman
« on: Today at 12:10:53 AM »
Ultimately, this is like Electric Superman vs Surfer. Or Powerless Supes vs Kobra. Superman consistently outwits Lex Luthor and Braniac despite them having the advantage of Prep time. Without the crutch of his powers to fall back on, he'd easily adapt to become competiitve with Banner. Oh, and Miracle Machine/Phantom Zone 'heaven. yeah, he's Banner level.

I don't know the miracle machine sounds like when Reed or Doom make that universal machine or whatever it was.

So high as to not go with just about every other showing really.

ICT / Re: Bruce Banner vs Superman
« on: Today at 12:10:09 AM »
Don't forget the mental math he'd crunch in the middle of all his rampages to wreck shit without hurting people. Do well to never forget it

Just image if he solved for x...as in x number of people to kill!!!!

Thought that was more "subconscious" math than straight up; which kind of makes it even more impressive.

ICT / Re: Wolverine vs Ben Riley Spider-Man.
« on: Today at 12:09:06 AM »
Yeah, Ben was more willing to get creative that way and he had stingers, but he doesn't have the history with Wolverine that Peter has.  It would be interesting to see how different this fight would be.

Depends on the writer; might do like that one scene where Spider-Man webbed wolverine with his hands to his head or be like SpOck and just slam Wolverine into the pavement hard enough to ko him.

Debate / Re: So...health care debate getting heated
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:47:24 PM »
He also posted some threats to the Freedom Caucus.

And...if this bill is having THIS much trouble with the house...and now it's even worse after all they've done--sheesh.

And word is out that Trump is blaming Ryan and regrets listening to him.

Also...yesterday Trump got to sit in a truck and beep the horn. Truly a leader we have here, folks.

Maybe; like I said earlier, some people thought Trump might have been trying to set up Ryan for a fall.

But either way he's too dumb to realize at this point he looks as bad as Ryan.

Okay; you trusted Ryan and he sucked, you trusted Fox News about the wiretap and "they" sucked......starting to sound like your not good at making judgement calls or picking good associates there Trump.

I guess you could make an argument about everything being against you to a ridiculous degree, no idea if that could be worked, but you "could" make that argument.

But beyond that you just start to look like an F'up.

General Chat / Re: Welp; there's been a terror attack in England
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:36:53 PM »
Alright, you know the procedures.  Go get one of those Facebook filters and put it as your profile filter.  With it saying Pray for England.  Because, prayer hasn't worked so far.

Let's keep doing the same dumb shit and pretend somethings been accomplished.

You know what's sad?

This has happened so often now; people don't even really react anymore.

Nowadays people just keep on keeping on.

Terror-Attacks are just the new normal; why do a "prayers for England" everytime it rains?

General Chat / Re: Alex Jones does a half assed back down of Pizzagate
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:35:01 PM »

TLDW: He apologizes to the owner of Comet Ping Pong but blamed the media besides Info Wars and apparently he tossed a few of his own people under the bus. Has he ever apologized for anything before?

Not that I'm aware of.

But then again I'm not really all that aware of Alex Jones.

I guess that's what coming up does to you.

Get big enough to play with the big boys have to start worrying about getting sued I suppose.

Though; maybe apologizing's a bad idea for that.  Since it's admitting guilt.  So who knows, maybe he legite just think's he got this one wrong.

ICT / Re: Battle of the Week: Jane Thor vs Wonder Woman
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:29:44 PM »
I can't speak to Annihilus' level, I know he's got some chops, but I wouldn't say skyfather... however Odin obviously is. That's probably the most impressive combatant Jane has matched which is certainly beyond what we'd expect from a top tier.

She's also been fighting those Shiar Sky-fathers, at a serious disadvantage but actually capable of doing it on "some" level.

ICT / Re: Snake Plissken vs DKR Gotham
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:25:22 PM »
What's his gear?

Just what he can get access to in Gotham?

ICT / Re: Bruce Banner vs Superman
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:24:45 PM »
Banner's push has been pretty long-lasting and consistent to be fair. Years after Greg Pak got the ball rolling, Mark Waid made it clear that his Banner was smarter than Tony Stark in multiple direct comparisons.


Yeah; Banner's always been pretty smart.

That armor that could take Hulk's punches back in the day.

Gun that repealed a whole alien invasion of Toad Men.

Time travel gun (albeit limited to just sending someone to the future from what I remember).

AI in a levitating sphere/drone body.

ICT / Re: Batman vs Tombstone
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:21:44 PM »
There is no reasonable scenario in which Batman loses this.

Maybe 1980's Batman?

Actually; doesn't Tombstone have enhanced speed to near Spider-Man levels?

Can't recall if Steelwolf had enhanced speed or not.

ICT / Re: Jupiter Suit She Hulk
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:20:43 PM »

If that's true; than honestly those sound like bad showings for Thing and Hercules more than good showings for She-Hulk.

Weaker than base-line Hulk but easily a couple times stronger than Thing, "while" weakened using one arm?

Stronger than Hercules; unless it's factoring in the whole immortal/mortal thing for Hercules, Hercules has had some good fights with Hulk over the years.

Because saying she's weaker than a dynamic Hulk is kind of pointless; it only makes sense in reference "to" the Hulk's baseline.

Otherwise it comes down to whose more angry at any given day between her and her cousin; even in her normal levels really.

If Hulk is completely calm but something's got a bee in her bonnet and she's raging all psycho; yeah she'll be stronger.

Why would you assume that Slott meant she was weaker than a base-line Hulk? A typical fighting mad Hulk seemed to be getting the better of a Thing with his strength doubled decades ago, so I don't see it as much of a stretch to see the modern era Hulk as being comfortably more than double Ben's strength.

In the modern era I think there is definitely a big enough gap between Herc level and Hulk for other characters to fit comfortably inside. Slott made it very clear that he saw the Hulk as stronger than Hercules, having Loki state it flat-out in direct comparison a few years after the She Hulk arc.


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