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ICT / Re: Lion-O vs Daken
« on: March 28, 2017, 11:00:27 PM »
Daken has an unfair advantage against the Cat man with hyper evolved senses far more susceptible to pheromones than regular people.

ICT / Re: Indiana Jones vs Jessica Jones (MCU obviously)
« on: March 28, 2017, 10:34:14 PM »
Yes. A five minute fight against Luke Cage, mind controlled I might add. If she can walk away from that beating relatively unharmed after she put him down, how can Indy do any real damage outside of PIS? We saw her manhandle Nuke, who was an elite Spec-Ops soldier and Police Sergeant, boosted to near superhuman levels. And that was while she was weakened from broken ribs. He even said himself if she wasn't hurt, she'd have kicked his ass in his amped state by then.

ICT / Re: Indiana Jones vs Jessica Jones (MCU obviously)
« on: March 28, 2017, 10:03:46 PM »
PIS or not, Jessica's average is that normal people can give her a fight.  Even in the Luke Cage fight, she was on the run for most of it and has to resort to shooting him to stop it.

SHe was on the run yes, but she took a serious beating from a mind controlled Cage for several minutes. She even got in some good hits like putting him through a wall. Tell me you think Indy would have done anything except get caved in from the first hit.

Without Purple Man present, she should walk the dog on him. Especially if she's not holding back. We saw her kill a person without punching all that hard. And sent her flying in the process. One of those would break half Indy's bones, because the force was enough to convince people that she'd been hit by a bus.

ICT / Re: Indiana Jones vs Jessica Jones (MCU obviously)
« on: March 28, 2017, 09:32:04 PM »
She beats him down, because the ginger hitting her was a PIS moment. Killgrave had to escape to the next episode, so a 2x4 knocks her out despite stuff like taking hits from Luke all day, or getting hit by a truck and walking it off, or outfighting Nuke with broken ribs while he's on his power pills.

Whenever Purple Man needed to escape or get away from Jessica, regular people suddenly became able to fight her just long enough for him to leave. Once he's gone, they get immediately taken out.

ICT / Re: Samurai Jack vs Mace Windu (animated)
« on: March 27, 2017, 12:23:31 AM »
That's some CBR logic applied to Windu and not Jack.
Windu isn't going to crush a human's chest cavity, he a Jedi. Jack's sword also won't cut anything that not evil, but he can use it to block a lightsaber. And yes we can say Jack has more stamina, he fought the Scotsman for a week straight, without stopping or budging an inch.

I never said he'd crush Jack's chest. I said he has multi-ton level force powers. He could easily fling him around all day, or punch him in the arm or leg and break it. Or just cut him down with his saber, as Jedi have no problem killing people.

I did forget about the Scotsman fight. That doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility for a Master Jedi though, especially after all he did in his scene without breaking a sweat. Not saying he can, but with how uber they portrayed him I could see it.

Also yes, the sword can block the saber. Until he doesn't have the sword anymore because Windu yanked it away from him.

Jack's badass. But Windu is on a level he can't beat for various reasons. He couldn't beat the Blind Archers, Minions of Set, Imikandi, Gate Guardian, etc for a variety of reasons. And none of them could hold him immobile or toss him around with several hundred tons of force for example. A guy with a sword against this level of Jedi? What can Jack feasibly do against a Mace on this level who doesn't fuck around at all?


ICT / Re: Samurai Jack vs Mace Windu (animated)
« on: March 26, 2017, 08:40:35 PM »

After rewatching, there's definitely no way Jack wins.

Especially after the troubles he's had against the Blind Archers, the Imakandi, etc...

Mace is on a level Jack can't handle.

ICT / Re: Samurai Jack vs Mace Windu (animated)
« on: March 26, 2017, 08:36:00 PM »
On one hand, Windy has the edge in range, variety of abilities and casually chumped everything he fought, even the hardcore General Grievous from that series. But then Jack is leagues tougher, has more stamina, stronger and probably as fast. And magical sword, that grants somewhat vague -hero aura abilities.

This is tough to tell.

Mace has multi-ton level Force on an extreme scale. Also he can amp his speed and strength with the Force to the point he was punching Battle Droids to pieces, and leaping miles and running fast enough for his speed trail to suck robots into it.

We can't just say Jack has more stamina. Mace did a Jack level of work, got a drink of water and went right back to decimating an army. Not even breathing hard or a drop of sweat.

Jack's sword won't work at all against Mace as he is a good guy. And it can't cut the lightsaber. So at best it's a bludgeoning tool. While Mace can easily chop anything he touches. Even a glancing blow will wound and slow Jack down. We just saw how a gut stab hurt him to the point of near death.

But mainly, Jack has no defense against the invisible energy field that gave Grievous the worst case of Space Asthma ever. Their stats don't matter so much as Mace can literally yank his sword away, then fling him a few miles up and let him fall. Or crush him. Or pull him onto his lightsaber. Etc...

Basically unless this version of Mace fights nothing like he did in the show, then Jack has a chance.

ICT / Re: Samurai Jack vs Mace Windu (animated)
« on: March 26, 2017, 02:29:44 PM »
Not necessarily. There were several instances where Jack didn't win. He got lucky, or had help, or some great epiphany. That won't happen here. Windu is the closest thing to the Guardian of the Portal that Jack has fought, and it'll go the same way. A bald black guy casually hands Jack his ass until he gives up.

ICT / Re: MCU Iron Fist vs Nobu
« on: March 22, 2017, 10:56:31 PM »
Even if they are incredibly closely matched physically, Danny can still launch Nobu across a room and cave his chest in. Or shatter a fist/knee/whatever he pops it with.

ICT / Re: Upcoming predictions for the 2020 fight, Kong vs. Godzilla
« on: March 22, 2017, 05:15:52 PM »
Herochat just keeps Quan around to laugh at while real mean keep it occupied.

ICT / Re: Rank the movie monsters
« on: March 21, 2017, 10:59:20 PM »
From first to last who'd be top dog etc.

Godzilla (2014)
Large MUTO
Small MUTO
Kracken (Clash of Titans 2010)
Large Scorpian (COT 210)
Kronos (Wrath of Titans)
Cloverfield Monster
Alien Queen-no force field (Independance Day 2)
Kong (Skull Island)
Large skullcrawler

Kraken(HAX enough to beat all Gods and Titans)
Kronos(Living Volcano who only can be beaten by Zeus' lightning/Kraken)
Godzilla(Probably on the same level as the CoT beings, but doesn't have the spoken hax)

(Don't know enough about the Alien Queen and don't remember much about the scorpion_

ICT / Re: Netflix Iron Fist vs CW Green Arrow, no powers or weapons
« on: March 21, 2017, 01:47:40 PM »
Danny also did have to ya know, fight a dragon with no powers whatsoever.

ICT / Re: Could mutants conquers Marvel Earth?
« on: March 19, 2017, 04:06:57 PM »
 Jim Jaspers. Jamie Braddock. Franklin Richards.

Mutants have like 12 reality warpers.

ICT / Re: Iron Fist vs Daredevil
« on: March 19, 2017, 05:44:45 AM »
Danny can also fire off the IF quick enough to break hands/weapons in mid-swing. So Matt will end this fight with some ligament not working right.

ICT / Re: Iron Fist vs Daredevil
« on: March 19, 2017, 04:33:19 AM »
Havent seen this show but it sounds like Danny is coming off kind of like a typical action film star/Mary Sue-ish.

In the Netflix MU, at least with Daredevil it seems like there was a purposeful focus on making every fight in the series somewhat realistic.

The way these fights with Danny are sounding it seems like they've thrown the premise of "realistic" fights out of the window.

I'll give a few episodes a watch.

You're asking for realism from the Wuxia/Wire-Fu hero who got a magical punch by killing a dragon? Who lived in another dimension for 15 years training with monks?

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