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ICT / Re: movie Thor vs comicbook Captain America
« on: April 24, 2017, 04:52:27 PM »
Hell, in AvX, Cap was on the losing end versus Wolverine (the Giant-Man assist got Wolverine out of the jet, but Cap was going to get put down, and had his shield disarmed to boot).

Yeah but comic Wolverine would maul movie Thor something fierce.


Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Marvel Studios News
« on: April 19, 2017, 08:55:00 PM »
What were you expecting when they revealed this element of the movie doh? We have largely known for a while that it would be taking a number of elements from the Planet Hulk story. It realistically could only be one way with it being a Thor movie. Otherwise, they run the risk of turning the primary character into a supporting one.

I was fully expecting Hulk to play a role somewhat akin to the Surfer's role in the original. That doesn't mean you have to go the whole hog and give the Hulk's role to Thor, complete with Warbound and what seems to be a Caeira stand-in. Just skirt around all that stuff and leave it open in case one day down the line the opportunity presents itself to re-explore it in a Hulk solo film.

Have them fight in the gladiator pits etc, sure. Don't have the Warbound and crucial story elements that could be used properly later, it's just not necessary. Use the setting, tell a completely different story.

Honestly not sure how anyone could be surprised that some Hulk fans may find this to be an unpalatable use of the source material (or at least how it seems it will be based on the info available - obviously there's a "wait-and-see-before-complaining-too-much" element here). Imagine if it was the other way around and they made a movie called Planet Hulk that guest-starred Thor, only to find out that a good chunk of the movie would be about Hulk learning the power of the runes and stopping the cycle of Ragnarok.


Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Marvel Studios News
« on: April 19, 2017, 02:46:37 PM »
I certainly wasn't expecting it to be a low-key Hulk movie in disguise, but I was hoping they wouldn't lift key scenes direct from the Planet Hulk story but with Thor in Hulk's place instead. Take the setting etc, sure, and obviously Hulk is going to be relegated to supporting role rather than lead... but making Thor the one to befriend the Warbound, flirt with the Red King-stand in's bodyguard etc...? That's obviously going to be a bitter pill to swallow for Hulk fans.


ICT / Re: MCU Predictions: Ragnarok Thor vs Hulk outcome
« on: April 19, 2017, 02:16:13 PM »
I'm seeing one of two things happening:

1) There's no clear winner like in the Avengers.

2) Thor figures out how to release Hulk from mind-control, thus, kinda-sorta but not really winning.

Also there's something else that I've noticed recently that I am afraid of sharing for potential spoilers.  If you don't wanna know, keep scrolling until you get to the next post.

POSSIBLE SPOILER WARNING: There is some behind the scenes footage of the FX crew working and you can see Thor charging himself up with lightning (without the hammer) before he leaps at Hulk.  They've cut the lightning effects from the trailer, though.  I'm wondering about that.


Could be a good way to fry a slave disc if they go that route for the mind control...


Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Marvel Studios News
« on: April 18, 2017, 10:04:43 PM »
Didn't we already know that?

Well it was obvious there was going to be some role swapping going on, but it's going to be a bit of a shitter for some Hulk fans (like me) if they go the whole hog and give Thor the Warbound and everything. I was sort of hoping they'd just be dipping in to the story with enough flexibility for a potential spin-off later down the line where they could tell the rest of Hulk's story on that planet (i.e. Warbound, Caeira, the works) but that seems increasingly unlikely.


Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Marvel Studios News
« on: April 18, 2017, 07:24:29 PM »
That link basically confirms that Thor is playing the role of Hulk and Hulk is playing the role of the Silver Surfer from the original Planet Hulk story.  >:(


Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Marvel Studios News
« on: April 18, 2017, 03:02:49 PM »
Got to be at least one Thanos-related scene/Infinity War set-up, probably a Ragnarok teaser of some sort (maybe Hulk getting abducted by the Grandmaster or something?), a GotG 3 set-up of some kind, maybe one pure joke scene ala the post-credit scenes in Avengers 1/Iron Man 3?


Debate / Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
« on: April 11, 2017, 10:55:53 PM »
Also no-one really knows what the succession plan would be, the older brother was passed up for Kim Jong-un so his credibility as the next leader is compromised, un won't have a child old enough to take the reigns for a decade or more. So who the fuck knows what would happen if he got whacked. I guess you could hope for the best case scenario of the regime being fatally undermined and a step towards normality but the worst case scenario of a bloody power struggle between factions in the regime is probably a lot more likely.


ICT / Re: Movie stuff that became comic canon
« on: April 11, 2017, 09:49:05 PM »
A shit load of Iron Man stuff made it's way over from the movie depiction.

- an arc reactor type thing in his chest rather than the original magnetic chest plate, actually functioning as his heart too from the start of the Heroic Age stuff (i.e. take it out and he dies as was the status quo in the films until the end of IM 3)

- relationship with Pepper (granted they hinted at getting together under Busiek but when they actual kissed both just laughed and said it was weird as they had both officially friend zoned the other)

- the J.A.R.V.I.S. AI

- Tony being injured in Afghanistan and building the first suit in a cave... with a box of scraps... rather than in a hut in Vietnam (actually they'd started going that way with a subtle ret-con during the Extremis arc IIRC but that implied it might have been during the first Gulf War if memory serves)

- Tony Stark being Robert Downey Jnr (he was always a ladies' man and charismatic but more a suave Bond type if anything)


Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Thor: Ragnarock trailer
« on: April 10, 2017, 02:24:53 PM »
The CGI on Hulk's face looks very different to the two Avengers films, wonder if they are tweaking the design or if it is just unfinished CGI.


General Chat / Re: Coordinated attack in Stockholm
« on: April 09, 2017, 09:26:14 AM »
Defcon 5 is the most peaceful/secure status. Defcon 1 means nuclear war. Defcon 3 is the highest the worldwide setting has ever been (immediately after 9/11 it went to 3, which was the highest it had been since the Cuba Missile Crisis. Although there are also regional Defcon statuses as well and the Middle East one went to Defcon 2 in 1991 before the first Gulf War).

Apologies for being a nit-picky fucker.


General Chat / Re: Coordinated attack in Stockholm
« on: April 07, 2017, 08:44:55 PM »
Very short clip of the truck barreling down the high street:

Doesn't show anyone getting hit so not gory or viscerally disturbing but pretty f*cking terrifying. What an absolute animal.


General Chat / Re: America just attacked Syria
« on: April 07, 2017, 05:00:36 AM »
Hey, what was the name of that Middle Eastern country we improved by bombing and removing their standing government?

To be fair it's pretty clearly a punative attack only designed to deter chemical weapon attacks. If the goal was regime change you'd be seeing a systematic destruction of Syria's air defence system to pave the way for further attacks.

This is a move straight out of the Bill Clinton playbook. It makes Trump look tough and assertive (in his mind anyway, it actually makes him look retarded for his u-turn as if chemical weapons were a new variable in the Assad equation), hiwever there is minimal to no risk of being dragged in too deep. It's a return to pre-9/11 US limited military engagement on initial evidence.


Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Spidey Hòme Coming Trailer 2
« on: April 01, 2017, 11:18:14 PM »
I see you failed to address all the unheroic shit about Tony that directly addresses this post in my previous response. Is that why you didnt quote me? So that you could muster some paper thin appearance of plausible deniability?

No Letters, I didn't quote you because I didn't want to let you off the hook with your laughably transparent attempt at backing down from your initial argument (which was essentially that Tony can't lecture Peter because he can't win many fights without his suit).

But if you really want me to run through why your attempt at a tweaked argument is fucking stupid, I will:

Hes gambled and partied and slept around while his business partner sells weapons to terrorists. 

He antagonises some harmless scientist which causes him to build an army of indestructible mercenaries who kidnap the president. 

I've grouped these together because they were both prior to Tony meeting Yinsen, who is essentially Tony's very own version of Uncle Ben. Holding these against Stark's heroism are equivalent to saying Spider-Man isn't a hero because he didn't stop the mugger that killed Uncle Ben.

Tony made mistakes in his past and has spent years now doing his best to rectify them. Because he learnt harsh life lessons about taking personal moral responsibility and trying to do the right thing. You know, like the lesson he is trying to pass on to Peter in the trailer.

He creates a sentient AI that creates an army and almost destroys mankind.

He created an AI in an attempt to make the world a safer and better place. When it went wrong, he helped to stop it. When confronted with the deadly consequences of his creation, he did what he thought represented taking responsibility for it, again doing what he believed would make the world a safer and better place, at great personal sacrifice to himself.

Then he blames everyone for his mistakes and tragedy that he's been responsible for and goes to war against his friends

That's a really strange way to interpret his actions in Civil War but then given your apparent inability to follow Stark's character arc in Avengers 1 or Iron Man 3 not surprising.

and tries to kill an innocent victim of mk ultra mind control in a selfish act of vengeance.

In a moment of rage he tried to kill someone he had just watched murder his Mum.

He's not perfect, no-one is saying he is. Least of all Stark himself, in the same fucking clip of the trailer in question:
"I was just trying to be like you."
"I want you to be better."

What are your opinions on Tony's great power and his responsibility and his constant failings over and over again. The same mistakes are made and he still learns nothing.

He doesn't make the same mistakes over and over again and the idea that he doesn't take responsibility for the ones he does make is completely and utterly absurd. Have you actually watched any of the Iron Man films? Like, at all?

Then he has the nerve to lecture Peter about being nothing without the suit when that's what he pretty much is?

Except he isn't "nothing" without the suit, as we have already discussed. And no, being "somebody" is not defined by his ability to beat up guys that he could as Iron Man.

It's laughable how badly you continue to miss the point of the dialogue here. Stark isn't saying "well if you can't beat up the Vulture without your suit then you don't deserve to have it anyway."

It's a fucking blatant spin on the same underlying moral lesson that has been at the core of the Spider-Man mythos from the start - the choices of the person underneath the mask are what defines the hero, not their fancy costume or incredible powers.

And seeing as how Iron Man has had multiple films dedicated very explicitly to him learning that exact same lesson (again I refer you to the closing dialogue in Iron Man 3 which could not make it any clearer), it makes absolute sense for him to try and impart the same lesson to Peter.

Hes a hypocrite. Like yourself. Unable to acknowledge facts or answer questions.


The irony of you calling someone a hypocrite in the same sentence as accusing someone of being unable to acknowledge facts is enjoyable.


Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Spidey Hòme Coming Trailer 2
« on: April 01, 2017, 10:05:11 PM »
As is usually the case, you are the one being a full-pelt moron but can't see the wood for the trees.

I'm not answering your ridiculous question about who Tony can beat up without his suit, and it isn't because I would be "proven wrong". It's because Tony wanting to teach Peter that heroes are defined by what is in their hearts, their choices, their actions... rather than what fancy costume they wear (or even what powers they have for that matter) has the sum total of fuck all to do with whether Tony Stark can beat up people that Iron Man can.

The fact that you think Tony shouldn't be allowed to try and impart that lesson because he can't beat people up without his suit just further highlights your laughably limited capacity to understand the world around you.

Using Uncle Ben's "great power" lesson was also not a "false analogy" - it's quite fucking blatantly exactly the comparison the film is trying to evoke. Even you can't be stupid enough to miss that surely?


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