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ICT / Re: Emma Frost vs Aquaman
« on: July 13, 2018, 01:02:39 AM »
Pre 52 Arthur was able to succeed in TP where MMH could not. When manjobber failed to break the mental defenses of a dimensional entity Arthur could. He's tp one shotted white martians who have matched MMH. I'd say Emma takes a slight majority but its  close in a tp fight. H2H its Arthur's

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ICT / Re: 1989 Batman vs Joker (Dark Knight movie)
« on: July 11, 2018, 11:37:35 PM »
In case anyone forgets

In 1989 Batman he kills Joker by harpooning a gargoyle to his leg so he drops to his death

In 92s Batman returns he pushed Penguie into a vat of toxic chemicals

In 95s Batman Forever he throws heaps of coins when twoface is flipping hus coin so he falls to his death AND shock therapy fries the Riddlers brain.

The only damn movie he left his enemies alive in was Batman and Robin in which he locked Poison Ivy in the same cell as Mr Freeze AFTER making Freeze aware that it was Ivy who tried to kill his wife and that Bats had saved her.

I'd say this makes the odds against modern Joker (or any villain vs 90s movie Batman)

Punisher doesnt even have that brutal a movie record

I always saw the Joker and Two-Face deaths as accidents.

In both cases Bats took a direct action that caused them. He also never did anything to prevent them from dying. Bats from Dark knight wtc would have died to save them. I mean seriously je could fire a wirepoon to snare Joker to a statue and prevent him flying away but to to secure him from his fall??

Clearly movie Bats of the era was not driven by the same moral code

There wasn't much that could be done for eithe rJoker or Two-Face.  Bats killed plenty of other people but I never really pinned those two on him.

Your missing my point I think. Look at what Bale Batman did to save lives. Gordon's kid, Joker himslef. He'd dive headlong into an almost death situation just to save a life, ANY life. Keaton/Kilmer Bats it was more like "ohh I killed a scumbag ? Mehh"

The fact that Bale would do anything to protect life and was as Ledger himslef stated "truly incoruptable" became a character trait that Ledger Joker played on and relied on. If he plays those angles on Keating/Kilmer Batman he'd be screwed.

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ICT / Re: 1989 Batman vs Joker (Dark Knight movie)
« on: July 11, 2018, 11:24:26 AM »
In case anyone forgets

In 1989 Batman he kills Joker by harpooning a gargoyle to his leg so he drops to his death

In 92s Batman returns he pushed Penguie into a vat of toxic chemicals

In 95s Batman Forever he throws heaps of coins when twoface is flipping hus coin so he falls to his death AND shock therapy fries the Riddlers brain.

The only damn movie he left his enemies alive in was Batman and Robin in which he locked Poison Ivy in the same cell as Mr Freeze AFTER making Freeze aware that it was Ivy who tried to kill his wife and that Bats had saved her.

I'd say this makes the odds against modern Joker (or any villain vs 90s movie Batman)

Punisher doesnt even have that brutal a movie record

I always saw the Joker and Two-Face deaths as accidents.

In both cases Bats took a direct action that caused them. He also never did anything to prevent them from dying. Bats from Dark knight wtc would have died to save them. I mean seriously je could fire a wirepoon to snare Joker to a statue and prevent him flying away but to to secure him from his fall??

Clearly movie Bats of the era was not driven by the same moral code

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ICT / Re: 1989 Batman vs Joker (Dark Knight movie)
« on: July 11, 2018, 08:49:06 AM »
In case anyone forgets

In 1989 Batman he kills Joker by harpooning a gargoyle to his leg so he drops to his death

In 92s Batman returns he pushed Penguie into a vat of toxic chemicals

In 95s Batman Forever he throws heaps of coins when twoface is flipping hus coin so he falls to his death AND shock therapy fries the Riddlers brain.

The only damn movie he left his enemies alive in was Batman and Robin in which he locked Poison Ivy in the same cell as Mr Freeze AFTER making Freeze aware that it was Ivy who tried to kill his wife and that Bats had saved her.

I'd say this makes the odds against modern Joker (or any villain vs 90s movie Batman)

Punisher doesnt even have that brutal a movie record

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ICT / Re: 1989 Batman vs Joker (Dark Knight movie)
« on: July 11, 2018, 08:26:49 AM »
The plot line that Dark Knights Batman wouldnt kill Joker is sonewhat against him. 88 Batman had no problem dropping his Joker from the top of a building. Hell if Comic Batman killed adversaries as often as the 89 series Batman Gothem would be the safest place in the DCU as no crims would be left.

Which makes one wonder why modern movie Bats was wanted/hunted when 90s Bats wasnt

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ICT / Re: Superman vs Clark Kent-Green Lantern of Earth
« on: June 22, 2018, 09:40:02 PM »
Way WAY to speculative to make any type of informed or reasoned  determination. We've never even had one wxample of how his will would work with a ring (unlike say Batman).

Added to which being an alien with powers would have some affect on thw nurture side of his development as well. It woukd affect his swlf confidence and the way he approaches things (a purely human clark may have more fear for example)

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ICT / Re: MCU vs. DCU and Fox U
« on: June 21, 2018, 11:58:33 PM »
3 tribes and 3 leaders.  If a world war happens each nation has a ruler but they can align themselves with another nation but don’t have one ruler for both of the nations.  They each retain their own leaders but team up so to speak.

Films only.

Then I suggest you edit your op

It says

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Marvel Studios’ composite forces led by Thanos from all films vs. the composite forces of the DCU led by Steppenwolf and the composite forces of Fox’s X-men properties led by Apocalypse

If its 3 sides it should say x vs y vs z
Not x vs y and z

In this case and is plus in the vernacular of most. I'd also add something that states only movies because nothing im the OP clarifies that either.

Now that its not ridiculously outnumbered how many IG for Thanos.? If its only 1 or 2 then I'd favor DCEU. if more still MCU.

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ICT / Re: Speeder Race (Star Wars Stuff)
« on: June 20, 2018, 07:31:55 AM »
I think Analin had the best feats with Han pulling second place.

Yeah Han definitely comes 2nd (and not by much)

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ICT / Re: Speeder Race (Star Wars Stuff)
« on: June 20, 2018, 07:30:57 AM »
Anakin wins imho.

 IIRC when still a child he did so well in the speeder race which won  Qui-Gon Jinn enoigh to pay for repairs?? (Old fart alziemer memory here)

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ICT / Re: Dr. Fate and Black Adam vs Thor and Silver Surfer
« on: June 20, 2018, 02:07:46 AM »
your comparing strange to fate?

I would because they are comparible. Either Kent or Hector compare to classic Strange well.

Both have magic feats on or close to his best. Fact is considering their much lower number of appearances it can even be argued (falsely I'd say) that thier averages are higher.

Once you add in their class 100 brick physicals and the energy/matter manip feats of Kent (which arent played as magic. Their are many many examples of him simply draining energy of machines etc, and every version of his origin shows Nabu taught him the secrets of molecular control) they make up for any magical shortfall

Every single time a Fate vs Strange battle plays out on any site the votes have always been split and I've always voted stalemate.

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ICT / Re: MCU vs. DCU and Fox U
« on: June 12, 2018, 05:24:42 AM »
They have Krypton,

A destroyed planet?

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motherboxes,

That destroy the battlefield and their own team 👍great helo hunh.

 [quote [Steppenwolf, all the heroes
Got that

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Doomsday and Zod

Well shite tje addition of them Ares anf Faora just goes so far to dispell the vast disparity.

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They also have all the Fox characters it isn’t just dceu.  It would help if your old cranky ass actually read the op not just responding in a fit of dementia to this one particular post.  Fox has all the sentinels, Phoenix, Apocalypse, Magneto, Juggernaut, Deadpool, Cable, Xavier, rest of the X-men, quicksilver,  etc.
I clearly read it the same way AP did given his answer. It reads like a 3 way MCU v DCEU v FOX. Why would 2 sides have 3 leaders???

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I don’t include any of the tv shows films only you loon.
And I'm supposed to know that how exactly??? You said MCU and the shows are a part of it by MCU canon.



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ICT / Re: MCU vs. DCU and Fox U
« on: June 11, 2018, 07:53:06 PM »
To point out what I mean.

In the first Avengers movie The Avengers have one more member in the Justice League

By the end of the second movie they add War Machine,Scarlet Witch, Falcon and Vision so by here they're double the JL numbers. With greater versatility.

Then we had Winter Soldier, Ant Man, Spiderman  and Black Panther.

Taking in rogues JL has steppenwolf while by this point Avengers have Loki, Ultron, Red Skull, Hydra, Thanos, not to mention Black Order.

First GOTG movie when you include all characters (Yondu, Nebula, Ronan) is 9 to SS's 8 the second added Mantis and Ego.

We've yet to add the characters in Dr Strange (which includes Dormammu) or the Netflix Defenders and Punisher, the Agents of shield and all the inhumans that includes (plus deathlock and GR etc), the inhumans themselves. That's like another 25 heroes alone if you include villains more like 40+

Must be a real lack of faith not to argue a battle thats  so heavily weighted in nunbers and powersets (given that the SS only have 2 powered members and their street level stats are below those of the  equal number of street Avengers).

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ICT / Re: MCU vs. DCU and Fox U
« on: June 11, 2018, 07:10:35 PM »
Are there no dceu fans who even believe that have a chance?  Seems they have lost all their faith.

What a mornic thing to say.
DCEU basically has JL +SS with MAYBE (if you allow it as its not the same universe) GL.

Supes, WW, Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg, Batman, Flag, Deadshot, Katanna, Boomerang, Harley, Killer Croc, El Diablo, and enchantress vs a team 5 to 6 times that number with a vastly greater array of powersets.

Without the guardians of the galaxy, Dr Strange characters, agents of shield, inhumans, and netflix line up the Avengers alone have almost 2-3 times the numbers.

Arguing an unbalanced fight is lack of faith?? Right, guess we now know exactly who's biased in these things.

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ICT / Re: New Gods vs Heralds
« on: June 09, 2018, 06:48:11 AM »
The problem here is most of the New gods listed dont have much in the way of feats. Added to chich those that do (outside from Orion, Barda and maybe lightray) cant be considered to be their nomal level. For example Infinitt man when Source amped in DOTNG.

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ICT / Re: The Maker & Doom vs
« on: June 07, 2018, 02:46:52 AM »
They have experience against cosmics

Yes they have experience vs cosmics but no feats vs a plethora of such simultaineously.

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