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ICT / Re: She-Hulk vs Power Girl
« on: September 22, 2018, 01:34:41 PM »
Is She-Hulk even still class 100?

Yeah. Actually currently strongner then Hulk in the new Avengers book

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ICT / Re: New comic stuff worth talking about but not worth its own thread
« on: September 19, 2018, 09:17:49 PM »
I did like the fact to counter not having Sasquatch in a fight against Hulk. Marvel brings in Thor, Hulkbuster Iron Man, Captain Marvel, Ghost Rider, Black Panther, she hulk and Cap

Looks like Walter will be a reoccurring character. Wonder if he is the one that creates Gamma Flight

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DC Drones / Re: Cosmic Odyssey question....Anti life
« on: September 18, 2018, 03:05:19 PM »
Yep. Final Crisis, Death of the New Gods and Countdown were all released at the same time and contradicted themselves

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Bring back Michael Keaton and do a Batman beyond movie

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ICT / Re: Marvel's Top improvisational fighter in Earth-616?
« on: September 13, 2018, 12:42:35 AM »
Reed Richards.

Almost all of his wins are improvisations, and not just "I'll build this machine on the fly" stuff--he'll often use his deductive reasoning to figure something out without access to his lab, and use the environment and whatever's at hand instead to get the job done when the rest of the FF can't.

Could add the Doctor (Who) for that as well

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ICT / Re: New comic stuff worth talking about but not worth its own thread
« on: September 12, 2018, 10:38:19 PM »
They should’ve kept Tanaraq

Agreed but he did warn us he was making new continuity

“if Langkowski is so healthy and normal, why doesn’t he want to change into Sasquatch any more? And why does Sasquatch suddenly have matted, filthy fur, drool on his muzzle and a vicious gleam in his eye? Alpha Flight fans might remember the Great Beasts – but as I said, we’re not doing old continuity. This is something new…"

Tanaraq would have fit very well in this story. Don’t really like the new reveal all tanaraq did was make Sasquatch “hairy”, but overall still enjoying the book

I guess the new “Origin” wasn’t directly mentioned in the book so it’s still open for others to keep using tanaraq

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ICT / Re: Marvel's Top improvisational fighter in Earth-616?
« on: September 12, 2018, 10:06:36 PM »
Gambit?

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ICT / Re: New comic stuff worth talking about but not worth its own thread
« on: September 12, 2018, 09:56:30 PM »
Wonders of the internet. We both were right Liam

Rather large retcon as his powers always came from Tanaraq.



So Hulk = Sasquatch but as you said Walter doesn’t have the right mindset generally. He can “hulk” out as has done so and tanaraq only made him hairy. So when he did hulk out that was actually his gamma origins not mystical. Big difference from past continuity but he did say in an interview he was going to do that. Means the same energy comments from the previous issue did mean equal in power/abilities.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight23-17.jpg

But Hulk and Sasquatch under Ewing and in that fight were supposed to be equals.I thought Brian said walter wasn’t using his powers right I thought he was referring to killing as his speech let into that and then murdered the guard but meant tap into his powers which still doesn’t make much sense. So when he said he was ignoring old continuity he meant it. Oh well. Still a good story

 

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ICT / Re: Marvel's Top improvisational fighter in Earth-616?
« on: September 12, 2018, 09:33:08 PM »
Speedball and Puck deserves mention as they bounce around their surroundings

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: DCEU? More like DC PEE-YEW, AMIRITE?
« on: September 12, 2018, 04:23:25 PM »
Warner Bros. has released a statement about Henry Cavill’s future as Superman in the so-called DC Extended Universe, but it doesn’t provide the kind of clarity that many fans might have hoped.

“While no decisions have been made regarding any upcoming Superman films,” the studio said in a statement relayed to The Hollywood Reporter, “we’ve always had great respect for and a great relationship with Henry Cavill, and that remains unchanged.”

Yeah seems he’s on the outs and maybe going to try to renegotiate

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Current TV Shows / Re: Iron Fist season 2 Episodes 1-4
« on: September 12, 2018, 10:31:08 AM »
Oh geez I didn’t even put two and two together they were the same actress.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: DCEU? More like DC PEE-YEW, AMIRITE?
« on: September 12, 2018, 10:28:05 AM »
Damn....

https://www.cbr.com/henry-cavill-exits-superman/

With Ben Afleck leaving potentially there goes that DCU experiment

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DC Drones / Re: Cosmic Odyssey question....Anti life
« on: September 10, 2018, 05:34:09 PM »
Death of the New Gods brought it back and merged with the Source to make him whole

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Current TV Shows / Re: Iron Fist season 2 Episodes 5-8
« on: September 10, 2018, 12:28:01 AM »
Much better then season 1, and the side characters aren’t nearly as bad

Still have a hard time taking Davos seriously though. Did they use angles more in s1 as didn’t think he was that short

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ICT / Re: New comic stuff worth talking about but not worth its own thread
« on: September 06, 2018, 06:10:19 PM »
In the context of this statement though Brian is referencing power though so I think you are far too quick to disregard it as a possibility. Comparing him to Tanaraq is a red herring, Brian is commenting on Walter not being able to use the full power he theoretically has access to.

I don't take it Brian was referring to power as mentioned with the symbolism in my other post

No not meant as a red herring, just that is what is established history of Sasquatch. To me it literally would not make any sense if true. Separate discussion point for discussion sake do you think he absorbed Walter's memories or more just looking through the green door?

Actually I think you can count on one hand the number of times that Logan has actually stabbed Hulk straight up like that (off the top of my head it's really only the Fixit fight and that weird one a few years ago where he put all six claws straight through Hulk's brain).

The blood in the air during the first fingers in chest scene isn't Hulk's, it's coming from Sasquatch's mouth (which was bleeding from the opening exchange). The blood is coloured red; Hulk's blood is green throughout the issue. Agreed that Hulk does clearly bleed from later claw attacks.

I'd also like to address the strawman you made earlier (and then repeated on KMC as if it was something I had actually said myself) that the claws were akin to kryptonite and Hulk was uniquely weak to them. That's not what I argued. I do think that it is pretty reasonable to think that something more was going on other than just Sasquatch being really strong so the claws cutting easily, given Brian drawing explicit attention to how it's not normal for Hulk to be hurt like this. The bottom line is Sasquatch was victim of a supernatural spiritual possession, so there's plenty of room for strange things happening (Hulk being sliced open more easily than he might otherwise be for example).

haha that's funny, sorry about that. I'm partially color blind (deuton) with different shades of red, green and blue and that actually looks green to me even now. So 100% my mistake

Fair enough. I personally don't, but again hey maybe you will be right and will get additional context in the upcoming issues. As I mentioned always open for a civil discussion. Supernatural spiritual possession is a common thing for poor Walter.

The fact that part of that speech actually questions whether Hulk knows "what needs to be done" makes it pretty clear that this isn't the only thing that is being referenced. Again, the Tanaraq thing is a red herring because the comment refers to Walter, not Tanaraq.

And for the record, I don't actually think that speech is Brian talking at all. Immediately before that Brian's control seems to slip and he suggests there is something grander behind the possession and even asks for help. Hulk questions what it is ("What does? Tell me! What's behind you?"), which is when whatever is in control of Sasquatch gains the advantage and starts the speech about dark mirrors etc. We'll have to wait for subsequent issues on this point but I suspect there is something bigger and nastier pulling the strings of Brian and that is who we are seeing in that exchange.

Maybe or maybe not, but he goes right into talking about killing and then kills the security guard. Personally my interruption is different, but again respect your opinion and by no way discrediting. You like Hulk, I like Sasquatch but I think we are pretty fair with them. 

Walter and Tanaraq go hand in hand. But since Tanaraq is dead at this point, perhaps he really couldn't tap into his full power???? but before he had access to elder god powers and draw more strength wether he wanted to or not. This is a side note for discussion purposes since Immortal Hulk's pupils were changing and appearing to go savage do you think that could have played a factor in the punch catch. As personally I would put Immortal above standard Savage Hulk, would you?

Yeah very likely was the one below all talking, we shall see. and I agree we are getting a head of myself. Just having a civil debate from what is presented. Not saying my way is fact and the only way as clearly open to interpretation.

None of them state or suggest that Hulk and Sasquatch had equal power levels; just a replicated origin.

Proving context for the symbolism what Ewing was going for ie. mirror of the Hulk. Showing their history together, showing their orgins, showing how they got their powers and banner commenting his energy signature which I would consider power. But can just be a frequency (so either or) but then they made him Immortal Sasquatch too so even gave him the same power. They were clearly hammering across the duality between the two. Just to be clear Hulk is more powerful, and give him the nod more often then not but the story was conveying the dual relationship between the two.

Let's be clear here - you've just completely made that interpretation of that comment up.

Not at all this is his legit origin. Where does "half a hulk" refer to half of hulk's power then?

I didn't take it as a fact. I actually stated quite clearly that "There is never a comment one way or the other on power levels". Which is absolutely true. I just presented it as part of the total picture from that issue.

And given the way you just hand-waved away the comment from Walter that doesn't support your favoured position, you should be careful about casting aspersions. People in glass houses and all that.

I apologize that was tongue in cheek comment, hence the smilie face at the end. Wasnt meant to be taken like that. Wasnt saying either or was a fact, but based on the sybolism Ewing was clearly going for a mirror and copy of Hulk with Sasquatch. Nothing is clearly fact or we wouldnt be discussing this

Also to be clear agsin Hulk > Sasquatch.

Do you even Herochat bro?!

:)

I shall drop some F bombs next time :P

but I think we should agree to disagree as perhaps the next issue we will learn more with Brian now in the Hulk. I think "Sasquatch" power will return and is not completly gone, but dont think Walter will get it.

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