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ICT / Re: Rank the Post JL DCcu relative to the MCU Avengers
« on: November 22, 2017, 05:32:36 PM »
Strength

Evolved Doomsday - 120
Superman - 100
Kurse - 95
Hulk / Doomsday - 85
Steppenwolf - 80
Thor - 65
WW - 60

Durability

Kurse - 110
Thor - 100
Superman / Doomsday / Hulk - 90
WW - 85

Other than "sokovia busting feat" which is highly suspect as it is, Thor has no showings which suggest he is even close to Superman in durability.


He is also shown less durable than Hulk.

Outside of getting stabbed by Loki’s Asgardian knives (and Asgardian weapons being super good at piercing), Thor has held up consistently well to all manner of attacks.


Not really. Even a control chip easily pierced his skin and Dr Strange could pluck his hair (comedic scene but still). He also dived away from falling debris on skaar.

He had welts from Surtur's fire and said a shield throw from Hulk could've killed him.

Superman is invulnerable in the movie. Even a nuke didn't puncture his skin. Thor isn't.
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His biggest feat (Sokovia explosion) looks better than Superman getting weakened by a nuke. Thor was definitely KOed temporarily, but no lasting injury was shown. Superman was temporarily incapacitated by the nuke and physically injury. Not a HUGE difference, but I’m putting Thor above Supes.


Then you've to show us Thor taking the entire "blast" of the attack. It wasn't literally a big explosion that destroyed the city either.

Further Friday said that if Thor hits the vibranium with Tony doubling it, it would've vaporized everything and everyone. That itself calls this showing as a durability feat in question.
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This is a case of Thor being WAY more durable than strong. He’s been smashed around by Hulk and Kurse to little effect. Took a huge explosion on the Bifrost to no effect. Got rammed by a Leviathan to apparently no effect.



Thor was hinted to be on verge of defeat hence the hallucinations of meeting Odin like it was against Hela. It was supposed to be a brutal beat down hence the crowd becoming uncomfortable. It wasn't to show Thor taking several punches to the head without any issue.




TBH, it's more of a PG 13 setting than anything else. Captain America surviving Iron Man's bloodlusted punches comes to the mind while in the second movie he was koed by a rocket launcher even though he had his shield take the majority of the blast.

Thor can't no sell blasts which vaporizes buildings like Doomsday did or even the Congress bomb attack which destroyed the building.

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Thor did get a slight nose bleed from a Hulk punch. That’s a low showing for sure, considering he’s taken other attacks/hits from Hulk later (including multiple head shots during a ground-and-pound without any noticeable damage).


He was also staggered back by a headbutt from a frost giant in the first movie.
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Superman was spitting up blood during his Non/Faora fight, and neither of them had Superman as defenseless or pounded Superman like Hulk did to Thor. Again, this is not a massive durability gulf here, but I do think Thor excels in durability in the movies. But Superman outclasses him in strength huuuuuuuge.
I don't think Superman spit blood anytime from Faora or Nam-Ek  And Nam was stronger than Superman.

Thor doesn't approaches Superman in durability much less exceeds him.

The obedience disks are a plot device designed to bypass inherent durability or strength you moron. His hair? Lol. And yes, Thor prefers to dodge rather than tank, it's called being a warrior. OMG, Superman dodge Steppenwolf's punch because he was afraid he'd be hurt. You're so fucking dumb.

Where did Surtur's fire cause any damage to Thor?

Thor was completely fine from Hulk's beatdown. Now PG ratings matter? Wow, desperation.

It was a giant Frost Giant, and he was completely unhurt. That's like saying Wonder Woman staggered Superman with a headbutt. GTFO with that nonsense. You need to stop drinking water that people urinate in.

Thor's durability feats shit on Superman's when we take into account the Aether, Sokovia and the Bifrost explosion. Now I don't think that means Thor is much more durable than Superman but that's because I'm reasonable.

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ICT / Re: Steppenwolf vs Kurse
« on: November 21, 2017, 08:37:43 AM »
Remind me of the reason for this?

Doubtful. Even Superman didn't do that and he would punch Kurse's teeth in.

You don't know why Algrim would be more impressive than regular Dark Elves? Well we KNOW he is as reflected in his infiltration of Asgard, he slaughtered all the guards and his armor stopped Asgardian blades. Why? If you don't understand that, then you're an idiot.


I'm not sure you know how this works. You claimed Algrim was somehow stronger than the other Kursed elves.

Now prove that.
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If Superman gave him a sustained assault I have no doubt he would and Superman best BFR Kurse.
Superman pounded him repeatedly and he was fine.

Hahaha no, just because that sissy Thor got beaten up doesn't means Superman can't beat the puny Kurse down.
Also keep in mind, an Asgardian guard brought his spear into Kurse's shoulder and Kurse casually slapped the sword down and burnt the Asgardian down.
Yeah and iirc it took a bunch of warriors using  their weapons to bring down one of the weaker Kurse.

I meant to type sword.  The guard sliced into his shoulder with a sword.  It didn't go far.
That only shows you need a few more swords to beat a Kurse.
Where is it mentioned that it was a weaker Kurse?
Lmao it’s clear. The early Kurses were taken down by a few guys with weapons, yet the last Kurse wasn’t bothered or harmed by the multiple guards when he escaped prison or Loki’s spear. Hell even Thor’s hammer couldn’t harm him.
Well sure. If you want your unsubstantiated opinion as a fact, we'll pretend it's fact.
Abhil can't comprehend why Algrim turning into a Kursed would be more formidable than regular Dark Elves. Such concepts are beyond his understanding.
Remind me of the reason for this?

Where is it mentioned that it was a weaker Kurse?


Obvious context. You don't think Kurse's transformation powered him up?
Yes, it did. Not above any other Kurse though.
Kurse beats him into a coma btw.
Doubtful. Even Superman didn't do that and he would punch Kurse's teeth in.
i get it what happened in the movie showing completely different lvls of power and durability for the Kurses isn’t enough for someone as limited as you.

Showing a complete contrast of portrayals doesn’t prove anything!
One sword stab=several sword stabs.

I know, basic math for you.

I did. Look at how Algrim did against Asgardian forces compared to the other Kursed. The other Kursed wouldn't be able to storm Asgard, they'd be cut down.

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ICT / Re: Steppenwolf vs Kurse
« on: November 20, 2017, 11:22:48 AM »
Remind me of the reason for this?

Doubtful. Even Superman didn't do that and he would punch Kurse's teeth in.

You don't know why Algrim would be more impressive than regular Dark Elves? Well we KNOW he is as reflected in his infiltration of Asgard, he slaughtered all the guards and his armor stopped Asgardian blades. Why? If you don't understand that, then you're an idiot.

If Superman gave him a sustained assault I have no doubt he would and Superman best BFR Kurse.

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ICT / Re: Steppenwolf vs Kurse
« on: November 20, 2017, 10:34:47 AM »
Kurse beats him into a coma btw.

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ICT / Re: Steppenwolf vs Kurse
« on: November 20, 2017, 10:34:29 AM »
Abhil can't comprehend why Algrim turning into a Kursed would be more formidable than regular Dark Elves. Such concepts are beyond his understanding.

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ICT / Re: DCcu Zod/Faora-Ul Vs MCU Thunder God Thor/Hulk
« on: November 19, 2017, 05:22:42 PM »
Lol, poor FG. Wonder Woman spams the bracers and due to the nature of the beast, the more she uses her "trump card" the less impressive it becomes.

She crossed her bracers to take out a bunch of thieves. Lol.

They are a big shockwave that might knock a top tier back but that's it.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Justice League Spoilers
« on: November 18, 2017, 03:49:20 PM »
Why did Diana and Bruce act like Superman was one of their closest friends? It was so confusing.

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ICT / Re: movie Hulk vs movie Wonder Woman
« on: November 18, 2017, 03:18:50 PM »
Lol, Superman headbutted her twice, and only once did he use anything resembling serious force and it stunned her enough to take her out of the fight temporarily. He didn't fail to do anything.

And Wonder Woman does have enhanced super speed but that's useless against sufficiently strong opponents as we saw against Steppenwolf (Who I might add had armor that deflected her sword without issue). I'd mention Doomsday as well but he's a kryptonian hybrid so he's also very fast.

Put Valkyrie in place for Wonder Woman in this movie and nothing changes tbh. She's lackluster and mediocre. Her biggest highlight was not dying against Doomsday and tbh, she looked less impressive here.

She slams her bracers and pushes Hulk back slightly. She does some damage with her sword as well....before he gets his hands on her and puts her ass in a coma.

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ICT / Re: movie Hulk vs movie Wonder Woman
« on: November 18, 2017, 11:39:39 AM »
Lol, FG is insane.

Hulk gets his hands on her and beats her ass eventually.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Thor : Ragnarok-spoilers
« on: November 08, 2017, 01:27:18 AM »
I wish we got more out of Asgard and Odin:
https://youtu.be/J01AVlnHjeM
https://youtu.be/z_8FUIP9vec
https://youtu.be/vcYf_-e23zw

It's a real waste and one of my major complaints from the movie.

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ICT / Re: God mode Thor vs God mode Wonder Woman Live action battle.
« on: November 07, 2017, 06:29:34 PM »
How is this a contest? Thor has FAR better durability feats and his power shits on hers by a significant sum. Even strength wise, Thor doesn't have a lot of showings, but he's clearly strong AF and can slug it out with the Hulk relatively well.

If Thor gets Mjolnir, she doesn't even have a speed advantage. Which is a useless one anyways since Thor shits lightning bolts now.

Thor takes it 6/10.  Comparable skill but more strength and durability.
I don't see Thor as WW equal skill-wise but unless JL changes things I agree with the other 2.

I don't see how he isn't.

What has Wonder Woman done skill wise that Thor couldn't replicate? I am genuinely curious.

People reference her Doomsday fight but Thor showed a shit load more skill against Hulk.

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ICT / Re: God mode Thor vs God mode Wonder Woman Live action battle.
« on: November 07, 2017, 12:59:27 PM »
Of course she couldn't. She didn't even know she was a god and struggled against a poor mans Captain America a few minutes before that. And Ares just destroyed what she thought was the god killer.

How can Ares, who did nothing of value shatter Mjolnir? Are you cracked? It was forged in the heart of an exploding Star and it's power was unmatched by Asgardian standards. By it's very origin it's more durable than Wonder Woman, Ares, Superman and Doomsday put together to the power of 4.

If Ares tried to catch Mjolnir he'd die. They're would be a hole where his head used to be.

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ICT / Re: MCU Team Thor (or Revengers if you like) vs DCCU Trinity
« on: November 07, 2017, 08:13:48 AM »
It's like Tony doesn't dumps the exposition on the viewers.

It's a simplistic scene showcasing it wasn't a standard explosion where a huge burst of energy destroyed everything.

We've been over this and nothing Tony says indicates the blast Thor took was lessened in any way. Keep trying, though.
Sure thing bro.
That's almost cute rage. But only the vibranium holding the city together was destroyed. The rest of the city just got blown apart as it couldn't hold it together.

Also Iron man was just beneath the city powering up the spire. Not far away.

Not even close to it actually.

LOL

Has anyone seen such a convoluted attempt to dance around a scene? The city just got blasted APART and couldn't hold itself together.....you just described a huge ass explosion without using the word explosion.


Only the vibranium was blasted apart, the city got fractured once the vibranium holding it was almost destroyed. Heck, just by the spire being totally unharmed it can be argued that Thor didn't take any major energy blast as vibranium in the actual landmass was vaporized but the spire wasn't.

And Thor was exactly above it.
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We SEE the city explode into pieces and the vibranium spire was the one thing that does survive. You've got it backwards.


And what were the chunks falling down? And that's even worse for Thor because other vibranium parts were destroyed but where Thor stood it did minimal damage.

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Iron Man was at the opposite end of the actual explosion and his reactor was creating a feedback loop for the energy to be contained internally, and away from him. He was at the opposite end and we see him catch the back end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnfmmp_Kjek


He was creating a feedback loop for the spire. Hence why blasting the rear end of the spire.

Are you seriously arguing that in the meantime Thor struck the spire Tony was so far away from the city?

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Not that a good showing for Iron Man's new vibranium themed armor somehow takes away from Thor's feat. So I don't even know why it's relevant.


Because Thor was koed and Tony wasn't.
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An explosion that vaporizes most of a city (The only debris we saw were roughly car sized chunks) including the bedrock directly underneath it?

And leaves the spire on which Thor was standing mostly intact while other vibranium parts were destroyed?

Yeah, only you think that means Thor survived an explosion enough to destroy the city.

You're not even making any sense.

Thor was standing at the point where there was MAXIMUM damage. That was the center of the explosion you idiot.

What does the spire that Iron Man heat sealed surviving have anything to do with Thor's feat (And we don't know the condition of the other Vibranium...).

This is pointless, I posted the video.

No, only you think that a movie that plays to the lowest common denominator has some type of convuloted explanation to something that was straight up shown. You don't even know what your own argument is. You keep replying with nothing-burgers and 99% you're trolling.

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ICT / Re: God mode Thor vs God mode Wonder Woman Live action battle.
« on: November 07, 2017, 08:07:48 AM »
Thor wins 6/10. I see WW with the edge is speed and skill, Thor having the edge in STR and Durability.

Why does Wonder Woman have an edge in skill?

Also if Thor has Mjolnir, she has no speed edge.

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