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Current TV Shows / Re: Legion
« on: April 14, 2018, 01:58:25 AM »
I missed it but apparently Carry name dropped the Shi'ar.

Theory time: Future Syd is actually David in Syd's body.
I was wondering that myself. I thought that David being being nameless terror that destroys the world would be far too obvious. I'm not sure if it's David in Syd's body - it's certainly possible, but I'd be willing to bet decent money it's not Syd in there.

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General Chat / Re: Do you ever think of yourself by your Internet alias?
« on: February 12, 2018, 07:01:11 PM »
Not with this one, no. But then I don't post a ton. I think I might have done so with my City of Villains alias way back when.

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ICT / Re: Iron Man (MCU) vs Darth Vader (Film Only)
« on: January 22, 2018, 04:56:29 AM »

To be fair, Vader is just as likely to stand and gloat/intimidate before actually fighting.  Sometimes, he even pauses mid-fight to gloat.  He's a gloaty guy is what I'm saying.  Meanwhile, Stark's opening attack against Stane was to dive-bomb him through the ground.  In his fights with Vanko, he opted to blast and punch first and ask questions later.  Despite his bravado, he's quick to take his opponent out ASAP (I've been doing the "Road To Infinity War" thing by watching all the movies once a week in 2018 so the first two IM flicks are fresh in my memory).

Stane and Vanko were known, demonstrated dangers. If he's aware of Vader's capabilities and brutality, then yes, he might go straight at him. First meeting with Loki goes pretty much how you described as well, but they all knew that Loki was extremely dangerous at that point and Tony was showing off. I guess the issue is the situation in which they meet. Is Vader marching around Cloud City mowing people down, or is he having lunch with Lando? Also, that first fight in IM2 shows a very large potential weakness in Iron Man. His repulsor blasts are somewhat slow to power up (at least at that point; maybe later suits are quicker) and blockable by someone with what appears to be less sophisticated weaponry than Vader(debatable) and much slower reflexes that aren't aided by precognitive senses.

Vader's gloating and intimidation usually served a purpose and it was usually in Jedi fights where focus is a big issue (and where he was trying to turn Luke). In the only real fight outside of a lightsaber duel that we saw, he just walked in and wrecked shop. But, you're right. He does like to jaw, and if he doesn't see Tony as a threat he might waste time shit-talking. But then his shit-talking is backed by at least minor telepathy, which he uses to probe for fears and weaknesses (or that's how it's presented if not explicitly stated in the movies) and potentially amplify those fears (see Luke's terror-induced flop-sweat while hiding in the shadows Ep 6 -- I never could tell if that was just natural fear or if it was Force-influenced by Vader). Being able to bring Tony's self-doubt and regret to the forefront of his mind could be crippling. And I don't think it would take long. It took a lot of probing to bring out Luke's thoughts on Leia, but obviously Luke has the Force. The only time we see Tony endure a telepathic attack, he succumbs instantly. Of course, I'm willing to admit that MCU Scarlet Witch appears to be a much stronger telepath than film Vader.

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Being indoors kind of favors Tony, though, doesn't it?  If he were to blast out the walls for instance, Vader would be sucked out while Tony would be fine as he could fly back to solid ground.  Keep in mind that when Vader busted a window while fighting Luke, he had to hang on to avoid getting dragged out the window as well.

I assume IM could easily blow through an exterior wall, which could cause serious problems for Vader. That doesn't help if they're not in an exterior-facing room. But being inside still mostly grounds Iron Man. They could even end up in a crowded room filled with debris that almost forces hand-to-hand (dining room and furnace are examples) where Tony loses almost every advantage he had. I guess at this point the question is do lightsabers slice through IM's armor as easily as they do Star Wars blast doors?

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ICT / Re: Tom Bombadil vs Voldemort
« on: January 22, 2018, 02:20:08 AM »
It should be said that even Tokien didn't seem to know what the fuck Bombadil was as he wanted to be intentionally vague about him.  He thought every good story needs at least one good mystery and Tom was it for the LOTR mythos.
Very true. It's nothing more than speculative fanfic with Bombadil, but it is kind of fun.

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ICT / Re: Iron Man (MCU) vs Darth Vader (Film Only)
« on: January 22, 2018, 02:06:26 AM »
As for the durasteel feat, not only is it a fictional metal, but that was Vader at his darkest moment.  It's his Aunt May mode. 
Fair. It does show the power is there, but that level couldn't be called upon at will. It's possible that it could come out if Vader is truly afraid of dying. Or maybe he'd welcome death. I don't fucking know. Dude's fucked in the head.

As for simply slamming Vader through a wall, he'd have to get into lightsaber range to do so, and every trained force user is shown to have precognitive reflexes(from Qui-Gon is Epi1). Tony flies fast when he wants. Does he fly faster than Jar Jar's stupid tongue flick or sudden blaster bolts?

The biggest problem is that we never saw Vader against an opponent with seriously superior firepower, so it's tough to say how he'd react once the battle got going. But during the opening salvo where Tony is launching more quips than rockets (a part of his arsenal that I don't see film Vader dealing with very well), Vader will have every chance to get inside Tony's head where he is actually weakest or to use the lethal force techniques that Master and Scourge were mentioning. I suppose this depends on where Tony's head's at at the moment of the fight. Are recent MCU developments still weighing heavily on him? Wouldn't take much for Vader to take advantage of that. Then again, push the wrong button and it might backfire a la Luke in Epi 6. But I don't see any fight where Tony just starts off full bore. He just doesn't do that without a good reason.

I'm not trying to give Vader the majority or anything silly like that. I'm just saying it's not as simple as: Tony makes a quip. Vader attempts intimidation. Tony fires some lasers and realizes they don't work so well and just battering rams Vader into submission.

I mean, the general consensus here seems to be that Vader could win quickly, but in a prolonged battle he'd lose more often than not. That's probably fair in a situation where Tony can fly. But with the battle taking place on Cloud City, is it indoors or out on a platform like Obi vs Jango? Because his flight, a greater advantage than his speed or possibly even strength, would be essentially nullified indoors. And I just don't see Vader pulling a "play with your food" moment in too many of those fights. He only really did that with people he was close to, at least as far as we saw in the films. Tony likes to start slow and Vader does not. IM 6/10.

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ICT / Re: Iron Man (MCU) vs Darth Vader (Film Only)
« on: January 22, 2018, 12:03:39 AM »
That's just it. I don't think it would be the same. Again, I realize we don't know exactly what the material is from the movies, but "durasteel" and "duracrete" are canon still as far as I could find(they're in the Visual Encyclopedia). Would Vader's ability to crush durasteel as seen in his force tantrum in Epi 3 translate into crush the Iron Man suit? Dunno. Be he can definitely crush bone inside of the suit.

Also, he picks people up with the Force and chucks them around in R1, so there's another example of "bigger than a basketball."

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ICT / Re: Iron Man (MCU) vs Darth Vader (Film Only)
« on: January 21, 2018, 11:18:50 PM »
Go watch the ESB fight again

Vader uses the Force to rip a piping thing off the wall nearly as big as he is and toss it at Luke

"Nothing bigger than a basketball" wtf

This one?
https://youtu.be/lhX5V-wICuw?t=3m37s

Yeah, the pipe is taller, but it's also pretty slender and hollow.  It likely doesn't weigh much and I imagine of tony gets hit by it, it won't do much damage.

I think the point is less about the size of the pipe but rather that he ripped it out of the wall. Granted, we have no way of really knowing how strong the bolts/welds are that hold the pipe to the wall or what the material is from this scene alone, but it at least opens the possibility up for Vader to rip pieces of the Iron Man suit off of Stark.

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ICT / Re: Tom Bombadil vs Voldemort
« on: January 21, 2018, 10:09:13 PM »
There really isn't much to go on with Bombadil. I'm not sure what "strict movie feats" Thorne is referencing, unless he means that since Bombadil isn't in the movies, he has none.

What you see Bombadil do in the books seems extremely impressive, but then you have to try to compare magic from different worlds. Bombadil is immune to the influence of the One Ring, is capable of commanding nature(Old Man Willow), banishing/dispersing creatures of shadow (Wights), and remove powerful curses without effort (cursed Barrow Downs stuff). But then again, are LotR curses anything compared to HP curses?

If you consider that HP magic is no more capable of overcoming Bombadil than anything possessed by Sauron, then yeah, Bombadil likely wins easily.

This is not taking into account all the crazy fan theories about Bombadil's true nature.

ETA: If nothing else, Bombadil is an unparalleled Occlumens and likely an extremely powerful Legilimens.

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Current TV Shows / Re: The Good Place: Hopefully Won't Be Bad
« on: January 19, 2018, 08:50:18 PM »
Being burned by awesome first season before I never trust a show to have anything mapped out beyond the first season.

I entirely understand that, but this show really kept things going this season. I'm hoping Neo's right and next season continues the streak.

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Current TV Shows / Re: The Good Place: Hopefully Won't Be Bad
« on: January 19, 2018, 12:22:44 PM »
In any case, it really seems like the show will have a difficult time going beyond this season, at least with the current cast. I suppose they could get shunted off into another medium place or something and dick around for a season or two, but I don't really see where the narrative would go at that point. Maybe they get to the Good Place, and it sucks or something.

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Current TV Shows / Re: black lighting
« on: January 19, 2018, 12:20:11 PM »
I guess I'm just burned out on that storyline. It's always set up so poorly, and even in a case like this where it makes a lot of sense, I'd rather just give it a pass. It won't cause me to stop watching as long as it doesn't devolve into half of each show being BL and his ex yelling at each other.

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Current TV Shows / Re: The Good Place: Hopefully Won't Be Bad
« on: January 19, 2018, 12:16:16 PM »
Yeah, but I think that will lead to Michael's -- I don't know the word. Not redemption since he's always been a demon, but you know what I mean. Ascendance? That works.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Trailers here!
« on: January 19, 2018, 12:06:18 PM »
I want a goddamn liter of cola
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEed-o8fVpM

Don't know if the window has passed on this or not, but I'll definitely give it a go.

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Current TV Shows / Re: black lighting
« on: January 18, 2018, 09:06:09 PM »
meh she seem ok with him at the end

She was okay with it, because it involved their children. Will she be okay with it once her kids are safe and it's someone else's kids on the chopping block? I'm not saying that I don't understand that mentality. I'd do a whole lot more to protect my family than someone else's. But it will likely cause problems down the road unless she has a serious change of heart. And I could really do without the classic "love interest gets mad at main character for doing hero shit" plot line.

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