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ICT / Santa Claus vs Superman
« on: December 24, 2018, 06:11:10 AM »

Not a fight, but a race to see who can deliver Christmas presents to every child on Earth the quickest.

• Each starts out in the North Pole of a separate, parallel Earth, both identical to the real world.

• Each starts out at the same time on Christmas Eve.

• Santa gets his standard gear, i.e. whatever he normally uses to deliver Christmas presents.

• Superman gets a magical list stating the names and precise locations of every child on Earth, a magical gift sack containing individually wrapped and labelled presents for every child on Earth (the sack will helpfully produce whichever presents he's after when he reaches into it), and a dose of Pym Particles allowing him to shrink down to the size of Ant-Man and return to his normal size for a period of 24 hours (his list and gift sack will alter in size as well).

• Use the post-Crisis/current comics Superman, and whichever version of Santa you like.

ICT / Michael Myers vs Ghostface (all of them)
« on: October 31, 2018, 04:53:46 PM »

• Use any movie version of Michael you want (there are four distinct timelines in the films), or a composite version if you like.

• Michael is up against every Ghostface killer from the 4 Scream films (but not the TV series).

• Michael is armed with a large kitchen knife, as pictured. Each of the Ghostfaces is armed with a smaller hunting knife, as pictured.

• Fight takes place in the home of Norman Bates from the Psycho films, during Bates' incarceration.

ICT / Friday the 13th battle: Jason Voorhees vs Victor Crowley
« on: July 13, 2018, 01:12:51 PM »

• Zombie Jason (from Friday the 13th Parts VI-X) versus the antagonist of the Hatchet films.

• Standard gear (machete for Jason, hatchet for Crowley).

• Fight takes place in Honey Island Swamp.

ICT / Twister (Ip Man 2) vs Frank (Ip Man 3)
« on: July 03, 2018, 02:56:25 PM »

• Frank earns the #1 contendership for Twister's world heavyweight title.

• The match is set for fifteen three-minute rounds in a boxing ring, with one-minute breaks between each round.

• Both men have a month to prepare for the bout. Frank obviously knows Twister is the world champ, and Twister is aware of Frank through the fight record Frank compiled in becoming the #1 contender.

• Fight takes place in a neutral venue, with neutral officiating.

ICT / Ip Man vs Ivan Drago
« on: July 02, 2018, 01:10:47 PM »

Scenario: Ivan Drago replaces Twister in Ip Man 2, and pummels Master Hung to death in a competitive match pitting Russian boxing against Chinese martial arts. To add insult to injury, Drago also disrespects Master Hung, and Chinese martial arts in general. Ip Man, who witnessed all this from ringside, responds by challenging Drago to a match, which he accepts.

• The match is set for fifteen three-minute rounds in a boxing ring, with one-minute breaks between each round.

• Both men spend one month training for the match. Drago doesn't know much about Ip Man, beyond the fact that he's a Chinese martial artist. Ip Man's knowledge of Drago is limited to what he saw in the match between Drago and Hung.

• Ip Man and Drago have their usual people as their respective corner men (same people they had in Ip Man 2 and Rocky IV).

• The people officiating the match are neutral.

• Drago is restricted to standard boxing rules.

Within the above framework, you have two sub-scenarios:

1) Ip Man can use his full Wing Chun repertoire, and can target any area of Drago's body (including his back, legs, eyes, or throat), except his groin.

2) Ip Man is restricted to arm techniques only, and is informed of this before his training period. He can strike with his elbows, forearms, hands and fingers, and can target any area of Drago's body above the belt (including his back, eyes, or throat), but nowhere below the belt.

ICT / Superman vs. Captain Marvel: Slugfest
« on: July 01, 2018, 05:51:24 PM »

• Post-Crisis versions of both characters.

• Both characters stand face-to-face trading punches to the jaw, until one is no longer able to continue.

• Captain Marvel is charging every punch with magical lightning.

ICT / Indiana Jones vs. Asian Hawk (Armour of God films)
« on: June 25, 2018, 01:28:22 PM »

• Indiana Jones vs. Jackie Chan's character from the Armour of God films.

• Both characters are in their on-screen physical prime.

• Fight takes place in the nightclub from the opening scene of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

• Both characters begin unarmed, but can make use of anything in the battlefield.

Here're a couple of fight scenes from the original Armour of God, for anyone who isn't familiar with those films.

ICT / Captain America vs. Wolverine, with a twist
« on: March 23, 2018, 05:41:24 PM »

• Wolverine has no healing factor, adamantium, or claws, but his physical stats are equal to Captain America's across the board.

• Wolverine is in a berserker rage, and cannot be reasoned with.

• Cap has no shield.

• The fight takes place in Hell's Kitchen, New York.

ICT / Batman in a 90-year-old body vs. Crossbones (HtH only)
« on: March 23, 2018, 01:40:02 PM »

Batman is trapped inside the body of a 90-year-old Steve Rogers, with no Super-Soldier Serum. How does he fare against Crossbones in a pure HtH fight?

ICT / Tony Montana (Scarface) vs. Paul Kersey (Death Wish)
« on: March 07, 2018, 08:54:28 AM »

It's 1983, and Tony Montana is raking in millions of dollars as the biggest drug lord in South Florida. Meanwhile, Paul Kersey is in Miami visiting his retired aunt, Edna, a year after the events of Death Wish 2. But -- wouldn't you know it? -- while she's out shopping one day, Edna is fatally gunned down during a shootout between some of Montana's thugs and rival gang members.

Never one to forgive and forget, Kersey decks himself out all in black, arms himself with an Uzi submachine gun, plenty of spare clips and two hand grenades, and infiltrates the grounds of Montana's estate late one night, planning to mete out his usual brand of vigilante justice. As luck would have it, Montana's men are all partying down at the Babylon Club, and the gate and front door have been left open.

Montana is up in his office snorting coke off his desk, when he spots Kersey approaching the front door on his CCTV display. Assuming it's an assassin sent by the Diaz brothers, he grabs his grenade launcher-equipped assault rifle, plenty of spare clips and a second grenade, and issues a stream of profanity-laden trash-talk, psyching himself up for the battle to come.

The stage is set. The safety catches are decidedly off. Who, if anyone, comes out of this alive?

ICT / Jason Bourne vs. Jaws (the Bond villain)
« on: February 21, 2018, 08:56:19 AM »

• Matt Damon's Jason Bourne takes on Richard Kiel's Jaws.

• Fight takes place in the apartment where Bourne fought Desh in The Bourne Ultimatum.

• Neither combatant is armed, but they can make use of anything in their surroundings, at their discretion.

ICT / TV Hulk vs. Jaws (nod to ultrabender)
« on: February 10, 2018, 06:12:32 PM »

• The Lou Ferrigno Hulk vs. the great white shark from the original 1975 Jaws movie.

• Fight takes place in the Atlantic Ocean, a quarter mile out from Amity Island beach.

• The Hulk is treading water on the ocean surface, and sees the shark's dorsal fin approaching.

ICT / Buffy the Vampire Slayer vs. Max (Dark Angel)
« on: February 06, 2018, 01:04:39 PM »

• Sarah Michelle Gellar's Buffy Summers takes on Jessica Alba's transgenic supersoldier, Max Guevara.

• They want to win, but are otherwise in-character.

• Fight takes place in Sunnydale High School Library (pictured below).

• Neither combatant is armed, but they can make use of anything in their surroundings, at their discretion.

ICT / Fandral the Dashing vs. The Swordsman
« on: January 19, 2018, 04:52:16 PM »

• Fandral of the Warriors Three vs. the original Swordsman, Jacques Duquesne.

• Swordsman's sword is the version he had before the Mandarin added various gimmicks to it, like ray blasts and such (though it's still durable enough to stand up to an Asgardian blade, as shown when Swordsman fought the Valkyrie).

• Fight takes place in the courtyard of a medieval castle.

ICT / Panthergod: Continuing our discussion on John Byrne quotes...
« on: June 26, 2017, 04:05:22 PM »
This discussion is continued from a tangent which began Scourge's "Hercules vs. Gladiator SLUGFEST!" thread:


Let's be clear about this: Byrne compared the Superman Gail Simone wrote (and he drew) circa 2004 to the Silver Age Superman in power? And you quoted him saying that, as though you thought it carried some weight? Is that right?

All you had to say was:" Yes, I'm going to pretend to not comprehend the context, which was in no way contradicted by you, Panthergod".

There's isn't a single contradiction you can name.

I disputed your weak comparison to She Hulk and WW,

It was perfectly valid. Byrne may have written both She-Hulk and Diana, but that doesn't make his opinion that Jen was the stronger of the two a canonical fact, even if one is limiting the frame of reference to his portrayals only. It's still his opinion.

not the issue of intent, which I inherently acknowledged was Byrnes opinion.

Byrne has no jurisdiction on the Pre Crisis Superman's powerlevel. Two shotting the Thing is nothing compared to tanking a geometrically increasing Savage Hulks full on strikes, which was seen on panel.

Jim Shooter's Superman looked more powerful than Byrne's Gladiator, but he also looked more powerful than Byrne and Simone's Superman.

I found a couple of your quotes BTW:


Panthergod: Hmmm.

On paper, Pre Crisis level.  The Superboy from the Phantom Zone Krypton did all the Classsic Silver and Broze Age Superboy feats and showings. Subsequent encounters with Pre Crisis-level characters, particularly SBP, elevated their relative power level. Byrne himself acknowledge that post OWAW Superman was effectively Pre-Crisis level compared to the standard levels of his portrayal( though his Superman's relative power based on his self belief and will and potentially infinite in amount).

I'll think about it.


Panthergod: Now Byrne admitting that the Post OWAW-pre IC Superman was Pre-Crisis level in comparison to the Marvelized elite Class 100 top tier level Superman from early Post Crisis.

And before anyone tries it, his conception of Adam informed Simone's portrayal, and he views Adam as well above top tier team wrecker aka the first Adam story from the Golden Age.

So yes, you definitely cited Byrne's view that "post-OWAW" Superman was little different in power to the pre-Crisis Superman as though that carried some weight in your mind.

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