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ICT / Captain America vs. Wolverine, with a twist
« on: March 23, 2018, 05:41:24 PM »

• Wolverine has no healing factor, adamantium, or claws, but his physical stats are equal to Captain America's across the board.

• Wolverine is in a berserker rage, and cannot be reasoned with.

• Cap has no shield.

• The fight takes place in Hell's Kitchen, New York.

ICT / Batman in a 90-year-old body vs. Crossbones (HtH only)
« on: March 23, 2018, 01:40:02 PM »

Batman is trapped inside the body of a 90-year-old Steve Rogers, with no Super-Soldier Serum. How does he fare against Crossbones in a pure HtH fight?

ICT / Tony Montana (Scarface) vs. Paul Kersey (Death Wish)
« on: March 07, 2018, 08:54:28 AM »

It's 1983, and Tony Montana is raking in millions of dollars as the biggest drug lord in South Florida. Meanwhile, Paul Kersey is in Miami visiting his retired aunt, Edna, a year after the events of Death Wish 2. But -- wouldn't you know it? -- while she's out shopping one day, Edna is fatally gunned down during a shootout between some of Montana's thugs and rival gang members.

Never one to forgive and forget, Kersey decks himself out all in black, arms himself with an Uzi submachine gun, plenty of spare clips and two hand grenades, and infiltrates the grounds of Montana's estate late one night, planning to mete out his usual brand of vigilante justice. As luck would have it, Montana's men are all partying down at the Babylon Club, and the gate and front door have been left open.

Montana is up in his office snorting coke off his desk, when he spots Kersey approaching the front door on his CCTV display. Assuming it's an assassin sent by the Diaz brothers, he grabs his grenade launcher-equipped assault rifle, plenty of spare clips and a second grenade, and issues a stream of profanity-laden trash-talk, psyching himself up for the battle to come.

The stage is set. The safety catches are decidedly off. Who, if anyone, comes out of this alive?

ICT / Jason Bourne vs. Jaws (the Bond villain)
« on: February 21, 2018, 08:56:19 AM »

• Matt Damon's Jason Bourne takes on Richard Kiel's Jaws.

• Fight takes place in the apartment where Bourne fought Desh in The Bourne Ultimatum.

• Neither combatant is armed, but they can make use of anything in their surroundings, at their discretion.

ICT / TV Hulk vs. Jaws (nod to ultrabender)
« on: February 10, 2018, 06:12:32 PM »

• The Lou Ferrigno Hulk vs. the great white shark from the original 1975 Jaws movie.

• Fight takes place in the Atlantic Ocean, a quarter mile out from Amity Island beach.

• The Hulk is treading water on the ocean surface, and sees the shark's dorsal fin approaching.

ICT / Buffy the Vampire Slayer vs. Max (Dark Angel)
« on: February 06, 2018, 01:04:39 PM »

• Sarah Michelle Gellar's Buffy Summers takes on Jessica Alba's transgenic supersoldier, Max Guevara.

• They want to win, but are otherwise in-character.

• Fight takes place in Sunnydale High School Library (pictured below).

• Neither combatant is armed, but they can make use of anything in their surroundings, at their discretion.

ICT / Fandral the Dashing vs. The Swordsman
« on: January 19, 2018, 04:52:16 PM »

• Fandral of the Warriors Three vs. the original Swordsman, Jacques Duquesne.

• Swordsman's sword is the version he had before the Mandarin added various gimmicks to it, like ray blasts and such (though it's still durable enough to stand up to an Asgardian blade, as shown when Swordsman fought the Valkyrie).

• Fight takes place in the courtyard of a medieval castle.

ICT / Panthergod: Continuing our discussion on John Byrne quotes...
« on: June 26, 2017, 04:05:22 PM »
This discussion is continued from a tangent which began Scourge's "Hercules vs. Gladiator SLUGFEST!" thread:


Let's be clear about this: Byrne compared the Superman Gail Simone wrote (and he drew) circa 2004 to the Silver Age Superman in power? And you quoted him saying that, as though you thought it carried some weight? Is that right?

All you had to say was:" Yes, I'm going to pretend to not comprehend the context, which was in no way contradicted by you, Panthergod".

There's isn't a single contradiction you can name.

I disputed your weak comparison to She Hulk and WW,

It was perfectly valid. Byrne may have written both She-Hulk and Diana, but that doesn't make his opinion that Jen was the stronger of the two a canonical fact, even if one is limiting the frame of reference to his portrayals only. It's still his opinion.

not the issue of intent, which I inherently acknowledged was Byrnes opinion.

Byrne has no jurisdiction on the Pre Crisis Superman's powerlevel. Two shotting the Thing is nothing compared to tanking a geometrically increasing Savage Hulks full on strikes, which was seen on panel.

Jim Shooter's Superman looked more powerful than Byrne's Gladiator, but he also looked more powerful than Byrne and Simone's Superman.

I found a couple of your quotes BTW:


Panthergod: Hmmm.

On paper, Pre Crisis level.  The Superboy from the Phantom Zone Krypton did all the Classsic Silver and Broze Age Superboy feats and showings. Subsequent encounters with Pre Crisis-level characters, particularly SBP, elevated their relative power level. Byrne himself acknowledge that post OWAW Superman was effectively Pre-Crisis level compared to the standard levels of his portrayal( though his Superman's relative power based on his self belief and will and potentially infinite in amount).

I'll think about it.


Panthergod: Now Byrne admitting that the Post OWAW-pre IC Superman was Pre-Crisis level in comparison to the Marvelized elite Class 100 top tier level Superman from early Post Crisis.

And before anyone tries it, his conception of Adam informed Simone's portrayal, and he views Adam as well above top tier team wrecker aka the first Adam story from the Golden Age.

So yes, you definitely cited Byrne's view that "post-OWAW" Superman was little different in power to the pre-Crisis Superman as though that carried some weight in your mind.

ICT / George Foreman vs. Ivan Drago (nod to HJ)
« on: February 09, 2017, 01:36:56 PM »

15-round pro bout in a neutral venue. Both hungry and in their prime. Three-month training window with knowledge of the opponent.

ICT / Live-action comicbook agility ranking...
« on: January 16, 2017, 11:07:26 AM »
Rank the most agile characters you can think of from live-action comicbook movies or TV shows, from any era.

I'm defining "agility" here as gymnastic/acrobatic/free running/break dancing type stuff. Different versions of the same character should be listed as separate entities.

A top ten would be great, but list as many as you're comfortable with. And if you can post video links as reference material, that'd be better still.

Sports Talk / Wimbledon 2016: Andy Murray does it again...
« on: July 10, 2016, 01:24:52 PM »

A 2nd Wimbledon title for Murray, and his 3rd grand slam win in total. Four or five years ago, there were people who doubted he'd ever win a grand slam, so he's well and truly proved them wrong now. And it's thoroughly deserved IMO, as he's worked his socks off to get to this point. I hope he picks up a few more slams before he's done in the game, but regardless, he's cemented his status as a British sporting legend, a rare animal in my lifetime.

Also, well done to Serena Williams for picking up her 7th Wimbledon title and 22nd grand slam win, along with a 6th doubles title with her sister. One more grand slam win, and she'll overtake Steffi Graf's record of having the most grand slam titles during the open era. Three more, and she'll be the greatest of all time. I hope she does it; she's certainly worthy of that distinction.


It's a sunny Friday afternoon, and Dr. David Banner -- presently going by the alias "David Bacon" -- hitches a ride with some boisterous teenagers, on their way to Camp Crystal Lake for a weekend of booze-fueled merriment. They invite him to stay the night at the camp, and he accepts. Hours later, they're all sitting 'round a campfire under a crescent moon, discussing the "urban legend" of Jason Voorhees, when -- speak of the Devil! -- Jason himself emerges from the woods, brandishing a large, gleaming machete. In the ensuing melee, Banner is painfully knocked to one side, as Jason sets about hacking the panic-stricken teens to pieces. But when Jason turns back toward the mild-mannered doctor, he instead finds himself facing the brutish green behemoth known as The Incredible Hulk, who is flexing, roaring, and very much ready to rumble...

That's your basic scenario, but you get to insert any of four different Jasons herein:

1. Original Jason (Friday the 13th Parts II-IV)
2. Zombie Jason (Friday the 13th Parts VI-IX & Freddy vs. Jason)
3. Cyborg Jason (Jason X)
4. Reboot Jason (Friday the 13th 2009)

Feel free to discuss how any or all of the above Jasons would fare against the Lou Ferrigno Hulk in a one-on-one fight.

ICT / Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) & Arsenal vs. the following...
« on: March 04, 2016, 06:23:20 PM »

Ollie and Roy working together as a team against the following. Separate fights. Standard city environment. No prep. All DC characters are pre-Flashpoint.

Captain America
Human Torch

ICT / Spider-Man vs. Volstagg the Voluminous
« on: August 26, 2015, 03:23:13 PM »

... at a pie eating contest. No, don't be silly. I mean a fight, of course. Standard city environment and standard gear for both. Aunt May has not been injured or insulted in any way.

ICT / Aunt May Mode Spider-Man™ vs. Bane
« on: August 11, 2015, 11:38:10 AM »

Spidey thinks Bane just raped Aunt May, and nothing on God's green earth will convince him otherwise.

Fight takes place in a generic city environment, with no interference.

Feel free to discuss any and all versions of Bane.

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