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California Assembly member Miguel Santiago [D-83/@SantiagoAD53] is the chairman of the Communications and Conveyance Committee, where he is single-handedly sabotaging the state's outstanding proposed Net Neutrality bill.

The lawmaker, who received $60K in telcoms money in the last election and who counts AT&T as his fifth-largest campaign contributor, has introduced amendments that gut the the bill, allowing ISPs to charge "access fees" to websites so that the ISP's subscribers can visit the site; allowing ISPs to throttle websites who don't pay for premium access; and allowing websites to create data-caps that their own services are exempted from, leveraging their networks to choke out all competition.

Specifically Assemblyman Santiago wants to amend SB 822 to allow:

1. ISPs to be able to charge any website, any amount of money simply so that website can be used by that ISP’s subscriber. These are called “access fees” and the U.S. internet has never had them. They were explicitly banned by the FCC in 2010 and 205

2. Allow ISPs to throttle online services and websites at the point where data enters their networks. ISPS did this in 2013–2015, slowing down business services, online games and video for tens of millions of Americans until the FCC order in 2015 put a stop to it.

3. Allow AT&T/TimeWarner and Comcast/NBCUniversal to use their pipes to make their content win by making all other online content count against your data caps, but not their own. That kind of zero-rating scheme hurts everyone and gives them even more incentive to keep your data caps artificially low

This California Democrat is single-handedly ruining our best chance to save net neutrality


If Santiago doesn't remove his amendments, he would be the first California Democrat to side with the Trump administration to actively destroy net neutrality, according to Fight for the Future (an internet freedoms advocacy organization).

Specifically, the amendments undermine net neutrality in a few ways. First, they would allow ISPs to charge any website a fee for people to be able to access it.

Next, they would give some content (such as content owned by the provider) preferential treatment on cellular data. That means that some content would eat up cellular data, while others would be free or less impactful to access. There's a high likelihood that privileged content would be created by the network's parent company, since so many telecoms companies like Comcast and, recently, AT&T, now both own the actual content, and the way it's distributed. This loophole makes it likely that people wary about using up the data that they pay for would opt for the content privileged by their telecoms provider, which undermines consumer choice.

And finally, Santiago's edits allow for throttling, which means intentionally slowing down content, but with a twist: Instead of slowing down the connection to consumer devices, the data is slowed at the website or service side, affecting everyone trying to access it.

America reaps what it sows.

The U.S. spent decades undermining regimes in Central and South America. (In addition to waging a ludicrous drug war.) Both of which helped exacerbate problems like these.

Similar story with the middle east. Only Europe is stuck dealing with America's mistakes there.

Apparently the hardline Trump approach is popular in Mesa (Arizona.) Which is the same community whose police force beats up stroke victims, and murders unarmed citizens. So you just know the bitter people there are on the proper side of an issue.

Showcase of the Immortals / Re: Money in the bank
« on: June 18, 2018, 01:29:24 AM »

Showcase of the Immortals / Re: WMTTT Rd. 4
« on: June 15, 2018, 11:38:14 PM »
1: The Natural Disasters

2: The Steiner Brothers

3: Jeri-Show

4: The Outsiders

5: The Two Man Power Trip

6: Edge and Christian

7: Beer Money Inc.  ( Tough going against The Acolytes this soon as I think they are the type of team that could beat even superstar pairings. But they can also be out-schemed. )

8: The Miz and John Morrison

9: The Miracle Violence Connection

10: The Road Warriors

11: The British Bulldogs

12: The Rock and Sock Connection

13: The American Wolves

14: DX

15: The Brothers of Destruction

16: Two Dudes With Attitude

General Comic Discussion / Re: Comicsgate
« on: June 15, 2018, 11:08:29 PM »
( Note : Have not read all this, am not going to either.)

It's pretty obvious what they have been doing with Carol. It's also obvious it hasn't worked, at least in terms of comics. Her series constantly needs to be rebooted, and sells terribly regardless. It seems like the biggest market for it is people that enjoy shitting on it.

If they want to transition her, then just do it. At least then they can claim to be all in for the Transgender community. As is, they are appealing to almost no one and it is pretty fail all around.

Unless something has changed since I quit, they have done an awful job of making her character at all likeable either. Most of the time she acted like a hot headed idiot, or the office room dick that everyone hates.

Debate / Re: So what you guys think of this Ohio voting ruling
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:17:36 PM »
It's yet another scheme used by corrupt Republicans to tap down on voting numbers so they can keep power.

Debate / Re: Will Trump go down as the worst president ever?
« on: June 11, 2018, 06:36:05 PM »
Trump's stolen Supreme Court Nomination is actively doing the work of the devils


The original Constitution forbids states from enacting a “law impairing the obligation of contracts.” According to Gorsuch’s lone dissent, this means that any law that prevents an already-existing contract from being enforced is invalid. Gorsuch’s rule, moreover, is quite unforgiving — “any legislative deviation from a contract’s obligations, ‘however minute, or apparently immaterial,’ violates the Constitution.”

Were this rule to become the law, it would have staggering consequences across many areas of the law. Suppose that Joe agrees to pay Ali $10 an hour to work in Joe’s factory. Now suppose that the state legislature passes a law increasing the minimum wage to $12 dollars an hour. Under Gorsuch’s rule, Joe and Ali’s employment contract preceded the state minimum wage law, so the minimum wage law could not, in this instance, apply to Ali.

Or imagine that a power plant, which uses an extraordinary dirty method to produce power, contracts with a power company to provide a certain amount of energy to the power company’s customers. Then imagine that a state passes a law banning this very dirty form of energy production, effectively requiring power plants to adopt less polluting technology. Under Gorsuch’s rule, that state law would impair an existing contract, and thus would be unconstitutional as applied to this power plant.

Or imagine that a crop-duster contracts with a local farmer to spray a highly toxic pesticide on the farmer’s crops. After several scientific studies reveal that even trace amounts of this pesticide cause severe brain damage in children, the state bans the use of the pesticide. Under Gorsuch’s rule, this state law would impair the existing contract between the farmer and the crop duster, and thus the farmer could continue to poison nearby children

Showcase of the Immortals / Re: WMTTT Rd. 3
« on: June 09, 2018, 08:46:55 PM »
Bracket 1

1: The Natural Disasters

2: The Minnesota Wrecking Crew

Bracket 2

1: The Steiner Brothers

2: X-Pac and Kane

Bracket 3

1: The Mega Powers

2: Jeri-Show

Bracket 4

1: Kane and Mankind

2: The Outsiders

Bracket 5

1: The Two Man Power Trip

2: the Hollywood Blondes

Bracket 6

1: The Masters of the Power Bomb  ( Honestly, the Samoans would have beaten the Maniacs by focusing on Beefcake. Masters win decisively over him in the end. )

2: Edge and Christian

Bracket 7

1: The Acolytes

2: Beer Money Inc. ( Good match. Beer Money's team success is just enough to tip it for me. )

Bracket 8

1: The Hart Foundation

2: The Miz and John Morrison  ( M & M had a couple of quite lengthy title runs. Especially given the era.)

Bracket 9

1: America's Most Wanted

2: The Miracle Violence Connection  (Fuck)

Bracket 10

1: The Mega Bucks

2: The Road Warriors

Bracket 11

1: Kane and the Big Show

2: Rated RKO

Bracket 12

1: Money Inc.

2: The Rock and Sock Connection

Bracket 13

1: The Rockers

2: The American Wolves

Bracket 14

1: The Canadian Chrises

2: DX

Bracket 15

1: The Brothers of Destruction

2: The Undertaker and the Big Show  ( Ambrose will take the fall. If Reigns were subbed for him, the result would be more up for grabs. )

Bracket 16

1: Kronik

2: Two Dudes With Attitude

General Chat / Re: The Infinite Thread of Evil Police
« on: June 07, 2018, 06:51:41 AM »
The Mesa PD is at it still. This is the same department that essentially got away with murder (see response 671 a couple of pages back for details.) Two new cases :

First, it's rather clear that the victim has gone limp, yet the police are still wailing on him.


Then four officers close in on Johnson, three of them begin punching him after one of them knees him, the video shows. Seven minutes after the officers handcuff him and zip tie his feet, officers began escorting Johnson into an elevator before one officer shoves his head into the elevator door, the video shows. The officers then bring Johnson back to the deck.

Toward the end of the video, one officer wraps a white cloth around Johnson's face, covering his eyes before three officers pick him up by his feet and arms and carry him into the elevator.

Second, they beat on an 84 year old grandmother (Yes, you read that correctly)





Many were hoping that once Barack Obama was out of office we would see less of this Big Brother surveillance nonsense, but instead it seems to be getting even worse.

In fact, the Department of Homeland Security has just announced that it intends to compile a comprehensive list of hundreds of thousands of “journalists, editors, correspondents, social media influencers, bloggers etc.”, and collect any “information that could be relevant” about them.

So if you have a website, an important blog or you are just very active on social media, the Department of Homeland Security is going to put you on a list and will start collecting information about you.................

Showcase of the Immortals / Re: WMTTT Rd. 2
« on: June 05, 2018, 07:35:19 PM »
Bracket 1

1: the Natural Disasters
2: The Colossal Connection
3: Minnesota Wrecking Crew
4: L.A.X.

Bracket 2

1: Bret and Owen Hart
2: The Steiner Brothers ( This was a tough one. Went Steiners largely because they seemed to have longer more dominating reigns generally. Both faced tough competition in their eras. )
3: X-Pac and Kane
4: The Briscoes

Bracket 3

1: Freebirds V.2 (Hayes and Terry Gordy)
2: the Mega Powers
3: Jeri-Show
4: The Brain Busters

Bracket 4

1: Kane and Mankind
2: The Faces of Fear
3: Paul London and Brian Kendrik
4: The Outsiders

Bracket 5

1: The Fantastics
2: The Two Man Power Trip
3: The Midnight Express (Stan Lane and Bobby Eaton)
4: The Hollywood Blondes

Bracket 6

1: The Wild Samoans
2: The Masters of the Power Bomb
3: Edge and Christian
4: The Allied Powers

Bracket 7

1: The British Invasion
2: The Acolytes
3: Beer Money Inc.
4: The Insiders

Bracket 8

1: The Hart Foundation
2: The Godwinns
3: The Hardys
4: The Miz and John Morrison

Bracket 9

1: America's Most Wanted
2: the Moondogs
3: The Miracle Violence Connection
4: The Motor City Machine Guns  ( Hated voted against Y2J and Christian but I think the guns have it based on their team record. )

Bracket 10

1: Mega Bucks
2: 3 Live Kru (Konnan and B.G. James)
3: The New Day (Kofi and Xavier)
4: The Road Warriors

Bracket 11

1: the Big Bossman and Bull Buchanan
2: Kane and the Big Show
3: the British Bulldogs
4: Rated RKO

Bracket 12

1: Money Inc.
2: The World's Greatest Tag Team
3: Triple X (Daniels and Elix Skipper)
4: The Rock and Sock Connection

Bracket 13

1: The Rockers
2: The Funks
3: The American Wolves
4: Pretty Wonderful

Bracket 14

1: The Canadian Chrises
2: The Quebecers
3: The Minnesota Stretching Crew
4: DX

Bracket 15

1: The Young Bucks
2: The Brothers of Destruction
3: The Shield (Reigns and Ambrose)
4: The Undertaker and the Big Show

Bracket 16

1: The Golden Lovers  (cries)
2: Kronik
3: Two Dudes With Attitude
4: Cactus Jack and Terry Funk

First team wins

ICT / Re: Battle of the Week: Black Lightning vs Electro
« on: May 29, 2018, 11:59:54 PM »
Both can be pretty scary powerful at their level when they want to be. Lightning seems quite a bit more consistently competent however. Barring some unforseen info, I have to favor him.

ICT / Re: Who is more durable: Superman or Juggernaut?
« on: May 25, 2018, 09:24:30 PM »

Hehe, here is the match I was talking about. Vince is calling it.


Fuji actually spent a lot of time as a tag champion. Including nearly nine months with Saito after this match.

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