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Marvel Zombies / Re: Is SHIELD being overdone?
« on: June 15, 2017, 02:14:46 PM »
Only problem with Marvel & DC doing that in maistream books, is that they cease to be 'the world outside your window'.

I'm perfectly happy just seeing these ideas explored out of continuity.

Honestly; having the mainstream guys do it at this point almost seems out of character.

Have no group pop up under "The Order" moniker again or some such thing.

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Debate / Re: Bill Mahr dropping N-Bombs on live TV
« on: June 15, 2017, 02:05:27 PM »
The fallacy that needs to stop is that other races had it just as bad as African-Americans. This simply isn't true (with the exception of Native Americans and that's been addressed.)

"Had it" just as bad; main thing is we aren't talking about the distant past or even 50 years ago.

Talking about today; the last few decades.

The old reasons don't apply anymore.

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Debate / Re: Bill Mahr dropping N-Bombs on live TV
« on: June 15, 2017, 02:04:19 PM »
First of all, Native American reservations tend to be in even worse shape than black neighborhoods.  They just don't get the coverage.

Secondly, most blacks were brought over as slaves whereas most Asians, Hispanics, etc. came over as cheap labor.  They were still oppressed and everything, but at least they were able to make a living and save up for their families.  It's hard to save up if the first few generations of your family were slaves.

To add onto that there was instances where the government actively held back black people. Voters rights, segregation, the connection between the CIA and rise of crack in African American communities, Tuskegee, Cancer irradiation experiments, etc, etc, etc. You really don't see this kind of stuff with other races except, like you said, Natives Americans.

None of that matters Neo. Apparently, Black people in this country just didn't work hard enough. Period.

80% of black people in the US are middle class and up.

To think of Black People as "needing saving" is kind of the bizarro-verse liberal version of conservatives who think Black People are all "Ghetto-Thugs".

Majority of black people got their shit together and live normal lives.

Sure some problems with crime but could probably break it down to a few specific cities, chicago, atlanta, new york and whatever.

If you can narrow the crime focus to just 4 cities, starts to look like....."why does the specific cultures of black people in those specific cities be so crime prone?" versus black people as a whole.

Nobody claimed we "needed saving" so spare me the strawman. The question asked was why are African-Americans "unable to succeed"? Which I don't think is a good question since we have achieved a good amount of success, in spite of the obstacles in our path. Now, if PB meant "Why has it been harder for African-Americans to succeed than other races?" then the answer is what Neo said.

It's pretty implicit in the question itself; saying "why are they unable to succeed" kind of implies as a group that's an issue.

Not as a minority.

By comparison white people are 9/10 vs Black People's 8/10; but no one would even think to ask "why are white people unable to succeed" despite having extremely similar levels of economic success.

Considering that land and housing often cost less in black neighborhoods and a lot of the black population exists in the south (65%) that one extra 1/10 may not mean anything at all.

Just an indication of liberal racism; but instead of hating they pity.

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Debate / Re: Bill Mahr dropping N-Bombs on live TV
« on: June 15, 2017, 02:01:50 PM »
First of all, Native American reservations tend to be in even worse shape than black neighborhoods.  They just don't get the coverage.

Secondly, most blacks were brought over as slaves whereas most Asians, Hispanics, etc. came over as cheap labor.  They were still oppressed and everything, but at least they were able to make a living and save up for their families.  It's hard to save up if the first few generations of your family were slaves.

To add onto that there was instances where the government actively held back black people. Voters rights, segregation, the connection between the CIA and rise of crack in African American communities, Tuskegee, Cancer irradiation experiments, etc, etc, etc. You really don't see this kind of stuff with other races except, like you said, Natives Americans.

None of that matters Neo. Apparently, Black people in this country just didn't work hard enough. Period.

80% of black people in the US are middle class and up.

To think of Black People as "needing saving" is kind of the bizarro-verse liberal version of conservatives who think Black People are all "Ghetto-Thugs".

Majority of black people got their shit together and live normal lives.

Sure some problems with crime but could probably break it down to a few specific cities, chicago, atlanta, new york and whatever.

If you can narrow the crime focus to just 4 cities, starts to look like....."why does the specific cultures of black people in those specific cities be so crime prone?" versus black people as a whole.

Black people might not "need saving" but that doesn't change the fact their has been a lot more shit tossed on the black community than other communities in this country. The fact that 80% of African Americans are middle class and up is a testament to Black people and not a sign they don't really have it that bad. I wouldn't be surprised if every person in that 80% has at least one story where they were treated as a second class because they are black.

Really?

People were bombing Asian restaurants and lynching them too if you've forgotten and even had a state that was approaching Asian majority until white people got tired of it.

Kind of disingenuous to say other communities haven't gotten the same amount when for a lot of US history they practically didn't exist for all intents and purposes.

Don't forgot Polynesians; 3% of all hate crimes go towards them and there's only around 800, 000 of those guys even in our country.

Which is maybe 1/3rd of one percent of the US population?

So that puts them at what 13x over represented versus black people's 3x or so?

The only other even mainstream population for most of US history outside of black people "was" Native Americans.

Have to imagine that nowadays Arabs don't get it so good either.

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Honestly if Starfox can survive it seems more like a blackhole jobbing but either way.

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if shooting a bunch of little kids didnt change guns law, shooting  a politcians sure as shit wont

Yeah well they might be on the receiving end of things; can't get a lot going when you have to worry about getting shot.

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General Chat / Re: Bull decides to fuck lady bullfighter
« on: June 15, 2017, 12:04:38 PM »
I guess it was inevitable that beastility would go mainstream.

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Debate / Re: Bill Mahr dropping N-Bombs on live TV
« on: June 15, 2017, 12:01:09 PM »
Every social problem can pretty much be boiled down to one simple concept though, lack of empathy. A combination of historical ignorance and people underplaying social problems they don't deal with day to day creates this emotional wall most people aren't willing to climb up over.

Its not just limited to white people either. I've seen instances where blacks have come down on the Irish when historically they have a lot in common including Irish being put into indentured servitude which is just slavery with extra steps. Yes they where able to recovery socially but their roots in the US still started off as being second class citizens.

Well you know oppression Olympics.


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Debate / Re: Bill Mahr dropping N-Bombs on live TV
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:58:55 AM »
Native Americans are a complex case. I'm no expert, but by and large, they seem to have bred into the populace. It's pretty hard to find anyone with close to pure native blood.
As for other groups, there was a different kind of selection process in terms of who got here, for sure. And many Black groups will remind us that over the years, the Asians that immigrated here were often the richest and most educated.
Still, the Black situation and the connection between slavery and the current situation is far from clear or linear. For example, crime used to be less of a problem among Blacks. Or there is the interesting question of whether the Great Society and its legacy have helped or hurt the Black community.
Additionally, other minority groups have claimed that Blacks have never done what they did to succeed: create strong communities that support community businesses. Jews and Asians, for example, have talked about how money was supposed to recycle within their own community a certain amount of times before it ever leaves the community.
I really have no idea how America can best move forward to deal with the problems facing Black Americans.

Yeah out of the 198 million or so people in the US with native DNA only "maybe, maybe" 800,000 of them have anything even around 70% DNA.

But there are still a couple reservations with honest to goodness "Ingines" if you are still so inclined to find them.

Though it does make a good point; on the reservations or villages/whatever where the NA's have bred so much with others as to be indistinguishable; kind of hard to claim it's "racism against Natives" holding them down when they are still having the same problems when they are now essentially all "Johnny Depp".

Though you could make the same argument for black people in the US to some extent, average black person here has 20-30% white DNA.

1/10 has 50%.

Both blacks and NA's have bred out/in a lot over the years.

There's also the fact we've had a few depressions, civil wars etc....most wealth in the US actually comes from the last 40 years so slavery and even most of the oppression they've faced over the years has less affect than you think.

Some instances where students do really well they try to replicate it elsewhere and it fails.

One of the consistencies is that the black students who tend to succeed a lot are of Caribbean, Nigerian Ibo/Tutsi kind of heritages.

Maybe the rare black person who doesn't do well in life really just isn't trying that hard.

Hell; maybe it just comes down to women; most black guys still get laid.....why would they want to change that to a system where in order to get the same women they are already getting they have to work 90 hours a week, get four years of college minimum, go on a diet and get an 8-pack going on.

It honestly just wouldn't make sense accept to make things harder for yourself.

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Debate / Re: Bill Mahr dropping N-Bombs on live TV
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:47:22 AM »
First of all, Native American reservations tend to be in even worse shape than black neighborhoods.  They just don't get the coverage.

Secondly, most blacks were brought over as slaves whereas most Asians, Hispanics, etc. came over as cheap labor.  They were still oppressed and everything, but at least they were able to make a living and save up for their families.  It's hard to save up if the first few generations of your family were slaves.

To add onto that there was instances where the government actively held back black people. Voters rights, segregation, the connection between the CIA and rise of crack in African American communities, Tuskegee, Cancer irradiation experiments, etc, etc, etc. You really don't see this kind of stuff with other races except, like you said, Natives Americans.

None of that matters Neo. Apparently, Black people in this country just didn't work hard enough. Period.

80% of black people in the US are middle class and up.

To think of Black People as "needing saving" is kind of the bizarro-verse liberal version of conservatives who think Black People are all "Ghetto-Thugs".

Majority of black people got their shit together and live normal lives.

Sure some problems with crime but could probably break it down to a few specific cities, chicago, atlanta, new york and whatever.

If you can narrow the crime focus to just 4 cities, starts to look like....."why does the specific cultures of black people in those specific cities be so crime prone?" versus black people as a whole.


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Food and Fitness / Re: Assess a Work Out Thingy: Freeltectics
« on: June 14, 2017, 10:22:03 PM »
Who is BLT?
Kane Sumabat

He looks like Liu Kang and he's pushing 50 now.

Damn.....that's fucken' impressive.

Like seriously.

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1920's to possibly 30's.

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ICT / Re: Listing outright superhuman feats action heroes have done
« on: June 14, 2017, 10:18:23 PM »
just about every shot Smith made in Shoot 'Em Up

As well as the time he shoved a carrot through a guy's face.

Peak Carrot?

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ICT / Re: Movie BP
« on: June 14, 2017, 10:17:30 PM »
So you guys are denying a power creep that Cap had across the Avengers/Caps films?

Actively disregarding what the main character and director are saying? That's pretty hilarious.

He goes from being unable to turn Lokis head to chucking motorcycles, punting hummers and fighting an enhanced Ultron in h2h

Sounds like a pretty explicit power up.

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A movie about a nation of blacks should be all black.  At least the residents of the nation.  I'd be annoyed if they shoehorns whites or asians in there just because.  The same way I get annoyed when they change the races of other people for no reason other than to do it.


But I still say Tony Todd would have been a great Black Panther.

Maybe Killmonger or Man-Ape?

Todd's got a lot of that theatrical menace going on.

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