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ICT / Re: Kingpin VS Deathstroke
« on: September 25, 2017, 10:35:41 AM »
Ikon or no Ikon it doesn't matter.

It sure mattered here.

He even knew Aquaman would hose him.

Why are you using a fight where Deathstroke was weakened as if it's indicative of his normal levels?

The current one will go at it.

You haven't posted any evidence for that. But my original point had nothing to do with current Slade. I made that clear from the start.

It seems you are stuck to an ancient era where the DS Teen Titans x-over kept occurring.

It was a classic era, arguably the golden age of the Titans. It'd be a shame if we stopped talking about classic stories just because they've reached a certain age.

NW has shown his superior speed in combat that he managed to even take Wade's gun from him. He even used DS body as a springboard. Let's not forget NW able to hold his own against DS during the Rose saga.

How do any of these references impact on the point I made regarding Wolfman's version?

Again... 40 years. Characters move on unless they are called Stiltman.

At no point have I suggested that characters don't change; you're challenging me on a point I never made.

ICT / Re: Kingpin VS Deathstroke
« on: September 24, 2017, 10:00:17 AM »
I dunno.  I have changed my mind quite a bit over the years.  Also, I typically hate the idea of reaching a consensus.  It takes away from the debate.

I agree. It'd be pretty dull around here if everyone sung from the same hymn sheet. Vive la différence.

40 years ago that DS run away from Superman.

As is perfectly understandable for any Deathstroke who isn't wearing an Ikon suit (wasn't 40 years ago, mind you -- that issue was published circa 1991).

The old school DS had trouble with Nightwing.

Not really. At half his normal strength and speed, Wolfman's Deathstroke still easily defeated Nightwing. Nightwing never gave Deathstroke much trouble under Wolfman, unless you count barely managing to escape him.


ICT / Re: Kingpin VS Deathstroke
« on: September 23, 2017, 11:41:46 AM »
I'm old school like that.

ICT / Re: Kingpin VS Deathstroke
« on: September 23, 2017, 10:22:06 AM »
Don't know about current Slade, but under his creator, Marv Wolfman, Deathstroke didn't look that great against man mountain types.

And Wolfman's Kingpin was more impressive than those guys appeared to be. An assassin who tried to murder him by driving a car into him from behind was instantly killed by the impact.

Seems likely that Wolfman would've written Fisk with the advantage here.

ICT / Re: These Marvel Villains vs These DC Villains
« on: September 13, 2017, 10:24:58 AM »
Who's Kingpin about to fight? Scarecrow?

I think it's Blockbuster, as he was depicted in Nightwing's book.

Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: What were THE movies of the 00s?
« on: September 12, 2017, 08:59:51 AM »
28 Days Later
The Bourne Identity
Bridget Jones' Diary
Brokeback Mountain
The Incredibles
The Hurt Locker
Paranormal Activity
United 93

ICT / Re: These Marvel Villains vs These DC Villains
« on: September 12, 2017, 08:10:06 AM »
Yeah, that's definitely Circe. The artist is Phil Jimenez, and that's exactly how he drew her in the pages of WONDER WOMAN.

ICT / Re: These Marvel Villains vs These DC Villains
« on: September 12, 2017, 07:43:37 AM »
Who are the two characters decked head-to-toe in white?

The guy to the left of Bullseye is the X-Men foe, Arcade. And the woman near the Rhino (if that's the second character you were wondering about) is Cyborgirl.


ICT / Re: Invisible Woman VS Carnage
« on: September 12, 2017, 07:10:10 AM »
She can get sub-molecular with her force-fields and did it in Waid's run when someone tried to reverse engineer unstable molecules.

That proves she has a high degree of control over the size of her fields. Whether she has a high degree of control over the shape of a field though -- enough to make one completely skintight -- is another matter.

ICT / Re: Who is the most skilled person a powerless Thor could beat hth?
« on: September 09, 2017, 09:56:29 AM »
I know it didn't happen in any of the actual THOR issues where Thor was depowered to human levels (circa #495). I checked all those myself, and though Thor and Cap fought a small army of mercenaries side-by-side, they never fought each other. Like Tedirey, I long ago concluded that this showing was a myth, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

ICT / Re: Who is the most skilled person a powerless Thor could beat hth?
« on: September 09, 2017, 06:17:09 AM »
When did Thor fight Cap without powers?
I thought it was Thor 469, but I'm pretty sure that's actually a different comic entirely.

Thor 469 was blood and Thunder tie in. I'm pretty sure he has never fought cap one on one.

I'm pretty sure Abhilegend has read or skimmed through all 400+ issues of THOR Vol 1, looking for low showings. So if he hasn't seen a powerless Thor fight Cap, it probably didn't happen, in that title anyway.

ICT / Re: Invisible Woman VS Carnage
« on: September 08, 2017, 01:22:15 PM »
Outside jokes,does the symbiote need to breathe?

The symbiote itself, as distinct from the host? That's unclear, although I'd lean towards no. The Carnage symbiote survived being in orbit for some time after the Sentry ripped Cletus Kasady in two, keeping Kasady alive as well. Also, Peter has indirectly suggested that the symbiotes were born in the vacuum of space (explaining why they're vulnerable to fire and sonics, which don't exist in a vacuum). They do have a home planet though, so it's unclear whether that theory is correct or not.

Chris Reeve's Superman, Keaton's Batman, Stewart's Xavier, McKellen's Magneto and Jackman's Wolverine all spring to mind as very likeable portrayals, moreso than many comic portrayals of the same characters.

I'll give a special/honourary mention to Bill Bixby's portrayal of "David" Bruce Banner. His performance made me care about and admire that character, moreso than I probably ever cared about the comic version.

ICT / Re: Invisible Woman VS Carnage
« on: September 08, 2017, 09:10:54 AM »
I may be going slightly out on a limb with the skintight field thing. I'm not sure if Sue has quite that level of control over fields, as her constructs tend to be pretty simple shapes for the most part, particularly compared to some GL constructs, say. Assuming she isn't capable of that (and I'd do the research if I were genuinely writing this), then I'd skip the separation step, and just have her trap Carnage in a bubble.

(If anyone knows of an instance of Sue forming a skintight field, please chime in.)

ICT / Re: Invisible Woman VS Carnage
« on: September 08, 2017, 08:54:14 AM »
If I were writing, Sue would stand inside a force-field and no-sell Carnage's attacks, then form a skintight field between Kasady and the alien to prise them apart, before imprisoning them in two separate bubbles.

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