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ICT / Re: Barracuda vs The Russian
« on: December 09, 2017, 03:57:18 PM »
Barracuda was at best a peer to Frank, he had absurd damage soak but he never came across as being above Frank in a fight, whereas the Russian was clearly way beyond Castle physically. Everything was a bit more grounded in the MAX run than the Knights series too, Frank included, so I think the Russian would win pretty comfortably in anything approaching a straight brawl.


ICT / Re: New comic stuff worth talking about but not worth its own thread
« on: December 02, 2017, 08:58:41 PM »
Not sure I've ever seen anyone shit on their own legacy quite as spectacularly as Pak has. Almost have to admire it.


Marvel Zombies / Re: Ennis & Parlov new Punisher MAX mini series
« on: November 29, 2017, 11:07:56 AM »
Yeah it's great. Just rams home how far above pretty much everything else out there Ennis' Punisher MAX run was/is which makes me sad knowing this is a limited run deal.


ICT / Re: MCU Punisher vs. Hawkeye
« on: November 22, 2017, 05:17:20 PM »
Might wanna ease up on some of the spoilers there, it's only been out like five days and some people might stumble in to this thread without having seen the last couple of episodes.


ICT / Re: MCU Punisher vs. Hawkeye
« on: November 22, 2017, 12:31:38 PM »
I maintain that Castle's fights with Daredevil put him in the same range as Hawkeye, in close combat at least (obviously he can't touch Clint's ranged feats). I think the Defenders series raised DD (and Elektra's) stock quite considerably, which by proxy raises Frank's.

On the other hand, in his own series Castle didn't really do anything particularly impressive apart from his absurd damage soak. It was much, much more grounded than the other Netflix series (even DD season 1).


Current TV Shows / Re: The Punisher Eps 10-13
« on: November 22, 2017, 12:24:09 PM »
If this show wasn't a Punisher show, and the lead was just a random vigilante, but NOTHING else changed, I think it would get panned.

I think I'd have liked it even more if it was a new character actually. The only bits I didn't really enjoy were because I was predisposed to think that Castle would act in a certain way rather than the way Netflix Castle does.

For the record I thought the music was brilliant throughout the series.


Current TV Shows / Re: The Punisher Eps 10-13
« on: November 21, 2017, 10:40:25 AM »
I think the Punisher we get in this series is still early Frank Castle.  He hasn't fully given up his emotions yet, which I think is the right way to go.  As I said in another thread, we can't just start off with cold, emotionally dead Punisher from Garth Ennis.  We can start with the somewhat sympathetic, traumatized war vet we saw in his early Spider-Man and Daredevil appearances, work our way to a the driven man on a mission we saw from Chuck Dixon and other writers form the 80's and 90's, and then come to the Ennis' version who is almost a complete psychopath.  It's similar to people who complained about the violent and unstable Danny Rand in season one of Iron Fist, not remembering that he acted like that in his first few appearances.  Netflix likes their slow burns and so do I.

I agree, and I really, really liked it too for the most part. But people who weren't overly enamoured by the portrayal in Daredevil s2 are going to hate it because if anything he is even more human and emotional here than he was there.

Why wouldn't he feel an attachment?  Before he went full Punisher, she was the one who had sympathy for him and, in a way, helped him get revenge for his family.  I think for this version of Frank at least, that would mean a lot to him.  In Daredevil, he came off as just a psychopath but softened up once Karen looked into his path and started talking to him about his family.  I think he feels an emotional connection to her.

I'm not saying he shouldn't feel an attachment to her at all. Obviously he would. But it was all a bit... much, wasn't it? The scene with Micro where he loses his shit and compares his relationship with Karen to how Micro feels about his wife and kids? Hmm. The "maybe if things were different..." head touching and moist eyes in the elevator... nah, not having it. He should consider her an ally and someone that he owes a debt too, absolutely. But basically calling her a member of his family and an implied love interest (despite him telling Micro that he has no interest in any other woman) just felt incredibly forced to me.


Current TV Shows / Re: The Punisher Eps 10-13
« on: November 20, 2017, 12:03:29 PM »
So on reflection I've decided that it's a genuinely brilliant TV series, but not necessarily a brilliant Punisher TV series. It's a pretty radical re-imagining of the character as we know him in the comics. Which is absolutely fine and made for a really engaging 13 hours or so, but the people who didn't like the level of humanity and emotion that Castle was given in Daredevil are going to hate this series even more.

I do really, really hate how they set up his status quo at the end too. It does actually make perfect sense with his new origin (as I mentioned before, with the conspiracy angle it wouldn't make much sense to start a never-ending war on organised crime so this was the logical consequence of the origin change). But it means we'll have to waste time in the inevitable season 2 setting him up as the Punisher again rather than launching right in to the good stuff. Could really do without that TBH as they covered all that ground at the start of this series. It also sort of undermines the big climactic scene at the end of episode 12 - "I am home" - which is unfortunate as that's the best scene in the whole series I think.

One other thing I hated - the scenes with Karen. Just doesn't make sense that he'd have that level of attachment to her. Doesn't help that I don't like Netflix Karen much at all...


Current TV Shows / Re: The Punisher Eps 10-13
« on: November 19, 2017, 02:33:28 PM »
Pretty much hated the ending but loved everything else.

The brutality in the last couple of episodes really escalated and it was glorious.


Current TV Shows / Re: The Punisher Eps 4-6
« on: November 17, 2017, 07:35:21 PM »
The thing is, all the promotional stuff always said the guy played Rawlins, so it was weird that the show was trying to keep it a secret.

Fair enough, I managed to avoid that as I didn't really read any of the promotional stuff so it was a nice reveal for me.

As for the conspiracy angle, the family was still caught in the crossfire.  They were after Castle.  I don't think the bad guys would have cared if his wife and kids walked out of there alive.

True. But they were caught in the crossfire of a deliberately targeted hit arranged by corrupt government actors aimed at Castle specifically. It's not really the same as them just being victims of a completely random act of violent crime, so it doesn't really fit the traditional Punisher motive for waging war against all organised crime in the same way (if indeed they choose to go that way at the end of the series).


Current TV Shows / Re: The Punisher Eps 4-6
« on: November 17, 2017, 05:41:37 PM »
Finished 6 now and still really liking it although I can see why some critics complained about the pacing as it has dropped off notably after the first 3 episodes. I don't mind it though as the character work is solid and I like all of the subplots (I'm really enjoying the veterans stuff so far).

Couple of things I'm not sure about character-wise for Frank:

- killing the soldiers on the hit squad. I know there's a big conspiracy etc and lots of military guys are dirty, but Frank had no way of knowing how deep in these guys were or if they were just normal soldiers following orders. He didn't hesitate to kill all of them, which is a little jarring to a long-time comic fan

- the whole conspiracy angle in some ways detracts from the Punisher's origin I think. His family being killed as the result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and caught in the crossfire of organised crime provides the perfect motive for his never-ending war against criminals. The way it is here, there was nothing random about it. It doesn't lend itself as well to him deciding to carry on indefinitely with his war against organised crime with this set-up.

Also loved the minor reveal/easter egg that the CIA douche is Rawlins (character from the MAX series for anyone unaware). Probably should have guessed once Frank took his eye out at the end of ep 3.

The reveal at the end of 6 was good if a little predictable but I won't spoil it until more people in this thread have finished all three episodes.


ICT / Re: God mode Thor vs God mode Wonder Woman Live action battle.
« on: November 17, 2017, 04:52:54 PM »
Iy really shows his heavy body and manipulation of gravity thay keeps him planted. Nothing more.


It's going to be okay fangirl, really it is.


ICT / Re: God mode Thor vs God mode Wonder Woman Live action battle.
« on: November 17, 2017, 04:46:28 PM »
If you are talking about when he pulls her in with the lasso that has less to do with a test of strength and more to do with her unable to keep her footing. He basically wins that by picking her off the ground.

She is braced though and has her feet planted at the start of the tug of war, which is about as straight forward a strength test as you are likely to be shown. As soon as Superman plants his feet and pulls back she loses. She is pulled off of her feet because he is clearly stronger than her and overmatched.

I don't see any wiggle room around that showing at all to be honest. It's a blatant physical overpowering.

he was flying. Try again. His flight adds to his physical strength pulling pushing. 

He isn't flying. He is stood on the ground. You actually clearly see him planting his feet just before he overpowers her.

I know this must be difficult for you but you're going to have to come to terms with it.


ICT / Re: God mode Thor vs God mode Wonder Woman Live action battle.
« on: November 17, 2017, 04:24:56 PM »
And he still wasnt far and away stronger than Diana. She matched him for a time

In a direct test of strength, Diana using two arms is flatly and seemingly pretty easily overpowered by Superman using one arm. 3:44 on or thereabouts:


Current TV Shows / Re: The Punisher Eps 1-3
« on: November 17, 2017, 04:02:26 PM »
So far so fucking great. The strongest start to a Marvel Netflix series since DD season 2, although that went downhill after the first 3 or 4 episodes so hopefully it stays strong.


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